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#1 Jan 26 2006 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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So what happens if Hammas take the following line:

"In the past, we have endorsed suicide bombings. If Israel will enter into real negotiations with Palestine, we will instruct (and enforce) a directive to stop these acts"

Tricky eh?

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#2 Jan 26 2006 at 11:09 PM Rating: Good
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Ahhh, sheer joy! A topic which discusses more than burning issues such as when Asylumites lost their virginity-- as if any self respecting chicks would deem to mercy-bang any of you EQ nerds...

As for the discussion at hand, eventually Hamas will have to take that position, if for no other reason to pay the bills. Between the EU and the US keeping a bankrupt Palestinian Authority afloat with aid, a new Hamas government will be hard pressed to carry through with it's campaign promises of building infrastructure, more education, less governmental corruption, and a responsive political party if there is no money with which to pay for these expensive plans. Cold, hard political reality is about to hit Hamas in the face.

It's easy to be the party or group not in control and gripe/criticize about the ruling party's foibles; it's quite another to find yourself unexpectedly in the driver's seat and having to make good on those political molotov cocktails you've been chucking forever and put those flames out. Hamas is about to discover the necessity of pragmatism and compromise.

The fly in the ointment, of course, is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a violent and heretofore uncontrolled splinter party within Hamas. If the ceasefire breaks and the PIJ is responsible for Israeli deaths, Hamas, its' parent organization, will be held accountable-- probably via ordinance dropped from jets sporting the Star of David.

Honestly, when I heard that Hamas won in a landslide I was excited for the peace process. For the first time a Palestinian government will truly need to accomodate the reality that is Israel. The PLO and Yasser Arafat have played both sides of the fence by paying lipservice to the peace process yet giving the terrorists free rein, all the while getting filthy rich from the desperation that has been the product of two peoples needing to get along. It will undoubtedly be a rocky path, but the end result will be a Palestinian government that has to live up to the promises made to its' constituents, lest it be removed like Fatah has been.

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#4 Jan 26 2006 at 11:17 PM Rating: Good
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Hamas is about to discover the necessity of pragmatism and compromise.
If we're only so lucky - but either way it's going to be an interesting sight. News has been kind of boring recently. If anything GWB must be having a field day - it's one more reason to prolong/start another war.

Yes, I don't like him - I relize some people do and good for you, I'm not looking to argue whether he's a good president. I don't think so and that's not going to change come next election.
#5 Jan 26 2006 at 11:43 PM Rating: Good
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There's no question about it, Pan. Assuming that they are like every other political entity ever known to mankind, they will do what they can to stay in office and reap the benefits that come from such power. In and of itself that is not unusual, nor is it surprising. But the fact that they blew into office on the promises of making life better for the Palestinians-- backed by actual demonstrations of what they promised, ie good education for children of both sexes, fixing homes in disrepair from repeated airsrikes and bulldozers, lowering the crime rate in portions of Palestine that they are in control of, and listening and responding effectively to their constituency, they have set the bar quite high-- which, to tell the truth, wasn't difficult when considering the vast billions Arafat stole from his own people for his own personal use.

In short, they (Hamas) are locked in by the good behavior that swept them into power. Any backsliding into suicide bombings will have a direct negative impact on the everyday life of the normal Palestinian who just wants to live his life peacefully, thus insuring that Hamas deal honestly with Israel.

This is not to say that they will bluster and posture like the Hamas of old, but the actual behavior will absolutely be modified to the new reality of political power. The Palestinian in the street will allow Hamas to say all the militant and reactionary things that they always have (and in fact might be severely disappointed if they didn't!) as long as it does not actually impact their lives in a negative way. After all, tweaking the Israeli's noses is a way of life there on the Gaza Strip. Seeing the Jews get all riled up feeds the collective ego of the Palestinian nation, but smug satisfaction places a distant second to going to work on a daily basis, knowing the streets are safe, having well educated children who have good future prospects, et al.

Both Israel and the West may not see the silver lining that this election has, but I believe Hamas being in power is nothing but good news. Eventually everyone will come to realize that cold hard reality makes pragmatists of us all.

Totem
#6 Jan 27 2006 at 12:01 AM Rating: Good
You know, I don't get my news from online too often - normally it's from the 11pm news on TV. Only now do I realize how much is being censored, at least here in the midwest (arizona).

The only thing at all which they decided broadcast about this election and Hammas was that "they won by a land slide" are "listed as a terrorist organization by the United States" and that "George W. Bush refuses to continue relations with [that] country while a party which vows to destroy Israel is in power."

From the direction in which the Hammas proper are heading I can completely see your logic. They are now a political power and a very public one at that. If they didn't change their stance they would surely fall both politically and most possibly in real life.

It's like you say though - if a splinter cell attacks under the flag of the Hammas the finger will be pointed at Palestine. Unless some type of agreement is reached and these cells are labeled terrorists and disassociated from the Hammas by Palestine and Israel I can only see it ending horrorably!

Totem, you are correct.

Edited, Fri Jan 27 00:11:12 2006 by Pandorra
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