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Welshofer was accused of putting a sleeping bag over the head of Iraqi Maj. Gen. Abed Hamed Mowhoush, sitting on his chest and using his hand to cover the general's mouth while asking him questions in 2003.

He was in US custody in prison being questioned about his work with the Insurgency. He wasn't answering questions. He died during this particular interrogation technique. Now this was clearly a case of a US army officer doing what he thought was necessary to get information he thought was crucial in saving the lives of his fellow troops.

This was a case of torture. Putting a bag over a mans head, suffocating him and sitting on his chest to simulate drowning repeatedly along with the reported beatings the man recieved beforehand cannot be viewed as anything other than torture.

The question - Why does the Bush administration repeatedly dodge any and all attempts to try to clarify the rights of insurgent detainees?

All the bumble f[b][/b]uck PR disasters that only serve as a recruiting tool for insurgents and to make allies want to distance themselves from the United States. Why would Bush not view resolving this problem as his number one priority? Why say 'its a grey area, we are acting within the law as it is" and then completely disregard or promise to veto any bill or legislation meant to help define and deal with the problem?

Because they've got something right: Why SHOULD we care about the rights of the enemy?

It's notn worth our attention. The enemy does things like behead civilians and captured soldiers.

Don't give me any bleeding-***-liberal crap about how we should be better than that and how we're fighting to establish and preserve those rights for the people in that country. I've heard it and that part is correct.

But when you step out and identify yourself as one of the people who are fighting us, I got nothing for you except a bullet in the head. Anything else is kind treatment. We ARE a kinder gentler nation than we once were. I haven't heard any plans of interrment camps for persons of Middle Eastern heritage like there were in WWII for Japanese.

But there are just some evil mother fockers out there and they don't DESERVE the same rights and treatments given to the average citizen. If some of them die in horrible, humiliating, and otherwise despicable circumstances controlled by our people, I'm OK with that. I slept just fine last night knowing that it happens.

If that makes me barbaric, then I'll just be barbaric and content with such.

Riddle me this:

Is it right to kill many innocents to get at a single terrorist?

Exactly, if the US army ever gets their hands on Zarqawi, then use of torture wouldn't bother me much. But invading a country (legality aside, besides the point here) and then torturing captured soldiers doesn't make that much sense.

But what? Either it's correct or it isn't. Saying "We're better than them" and then making excuses about why we should get to do the same sh[/i]it doesn't make us better than them -- it just makes us more hypocritical because at least they [i]admit to beating the sh[/i]it out of American prisoners.

If you want to torture people because you think it's justified, go for it. But you lose the right to wave the moral flag around once you do so. Stop being a pu[i]ssy and trying to have it both ways because you can't own up to what you actually believe in.

Plain and simple. The Bush administration refuses to accept responsibility and to have morals for 2 reasons:
One, it is flat out arrogance. The refusal to admit their crimes, to accept responsibility and to even acknowledge that it is happening by the US is arrogant and barbaric as well as hypocritical. It makes "us" no different from "them". It's one thing to capture someone who has no regard for life and no honor or code by which they fight (i.e. a terrorist). It's another thing to capture a soldier fighting to defend their country from an invading military and torture them.

Two, When they do get called on it, with facts and proof, they admit they do it but then say it's in the name of freedom, protecting the US and democracy. "We're fighting a war on terror." they tell us. Well where in the war on terror does that include torturing someone defending themselves? It doesn't.

The Bush administration believes it can get away with anything because it can. It can because the American public, you and I, allow them to. We allow them to by not calling our representatives and forcing them to hold them accountable.

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