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#1 Jan 19 2006 at 12:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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bin Laden by way of CNN by way of Al-Jazerra by way of cassette tape wrote:
CAIRO, Egypt -- Al-Jazeera on Thursday broadcast portions of an audiotape purportedly from Osama bin Laden, saying al-Qaida is making preparations for attacks in the United States but offering a possible truce to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan.

The voice on the tape said heightened security in the United States is not the reason there have been no attacks there since the Sept. 11, 2001, suicide hijackings.

Instead, the reason is "because there are operations that need preparations," he said.

"The delay in similar operations happening in America has not been because of failure to break through your security measures. But the operations are happening in Baghdad and you will see them here at home the minute they are through (with preparations), with God's permission," he said.

"We do not mind offering you a long-term truce with fair conditions that we adhere to," he said. "We are a nation that God has forbidden to lie and cheat. So both sides can enjoy security and stability under this truce so we can build Iraq and Afghanistan, which have been destroyed in this war. There is no shame in this solution, which prevents the wasting of billions of dollars that have gone to those with influence and merchants of war in America."
So, what do you think? Will we strike a bargin? Enter a truce? I'm sure the demands are measured and reasonable.
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Al-Jazeera's editor-in-chief Ahmed al-Sheik would not comment on when or where the tape was received. He said the full tape was 10 minutes long. The station aired four excerpts with what it "considered newsworthy," he said, but would not say what was on the remainder.
You know, if I waited a year to send out a message and the media source I sent it to decided only to air what they thought were the interesting excerpts of my manifesto, I'd be kind of annoyed.
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#2 Jan 19 2006 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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WE WON?!

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#3 Jan 19 2006 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
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Joph wrote:
So, what do you think? Will we strike a bargin? Enter a truce? I'm sure the demands are measured and reasonable.


Last time I heard, it was national policy that the U.S. does not negotiate with terrorists. They are not the government of a country to make treaties with, they are criminals.

*Edit*

But I bet we can offer some rock bottom prices on some surplus weapons we have just kickin around.


Edited, Thu Jan 19 12:19:57 2006 by Kakar
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#4 Jan 19 2006 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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#5 Jan 19 2006 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Kakar the Vile wrote:


Last time I heard, it was national policy that the U.S. does not negotiate with terrorists. They are not the government of a country to make treaties with, they are criminals.



/nod

A truce with the numero uno terrorist in the world isn't going to help the Bush administration look better.
#6 Jan 19 2006 at 12:52 PM Rating: Good
Go us? It will interesting to see who breaks their word first.
#7REDACTED, Posted: Jan 19 2006 at 1:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) if rebuilding iraq and afganistan was our goal, it would be a good deal.
#8 Jan 19 2006 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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I think it unlikely that we'll get to see bin Laden sit down at a table opposite George Bush for the signing of a formal cease-fire agreement.

I wonder if a cease-fire would even mean anything. One of al-Qaida's hallmarks (aside from a new spelling of its name every time its in print) has been the use of a distributed command structure - indepedant cells with only limited backing from the parent organization. The story of al-Qaida is one of individual planners, subcommanders, and motivated lieutenants rather than about Osama bin Laden. bin Laden could die tomorrow, but the terrorism would not end.

As such, how would a cease-fire apply? The groups operate independantly from each other. I believe we'd have a similar situation to the one Israel experiences, where you can have Hamas halt its terror attacks but have the al-Aqsa Martyr Brigade continue blowing people up on a weekly basis. I don't think there is any way to involve all of the militants in a parley, nor to craft an agreement all of them would sign. As such there can be no cease-fire that will be respected, just as there can be no true surrender, and no true victory.

It goes until one of us is dead.
#9 Jan 19 2006 at 1:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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fenderputy the Shady wrote:
A truce with the numero uno terrorist in the world isn't going to help the Bush administration look better.
I'm not advocating pursuing this "truce" with bin Laden which I'm sure is full of demands that the U.S. leave the region and other such things that aren't going to happen. And I acknowledge the Pandora's Box of letting Group A know that, with enough dynamite, they can get what they want. I just thought it was interesting to hear that ole bin Laden is still alive.

And you know someone is going to say "See? bin Laden is running scared and offering a truce because he knows Bush is going to win the war on terror!!"
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#10 Jan 19 2006 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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See? bin Laden is running scared and offering a truce because he knows Bush is going to win the war on terror!!


;P
#11 Jan 19 2006 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:


And you know someone is going to say "See? bin Laden is running scared and offering a truce because he knows Bush is going to win the war on terror!!"



It's all part of Bin Laden's master plan to lull the American people in to a false state of victorious bliss.

Start a parade Varrus! We've WON!
#12 Jan 19 2006 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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And you know someone is going to say "See? bin Laden is running scared and offering a truce because he knows Bush is going to win the war on terror!!"


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#13 Jan 19 2006 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
I find it much more interesting that he claims there are ongoing operations in the US. You have to wonder if Al Quieda will try another attack just to bolster credibility or not. If an attack isn't carried out in the near future, he will have lost his teeth in the Arab world.

Say goodbye to martyrdom, Bin Laden... Unless something goes boom in the next twelve months that is.
#14 Jan 19 2006 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Lefein wrote:
I find it much more interesting that he claims there are ongoing operations in the US. You have to wonder if Al Quieda will try another attack just to bolster credibility or not. If an attack isn't carried out in the near future, he will have lost his teeth in the Arab world.

Say goodbye to martyrdom, Bin Laden... Unless something goes boom in the next twelve months that is.


Yeah, cause all the Islamic wackos are going to stop following the man. You know, cause he's lost credibility and all.

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#15 Jan 19 2006 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
fenderputy the Shady wrote:
Yeah, cause all the Islamic wackos are going to stop following the man. You know, cause he's lost credibility and all. Smiley: oyvey


See, normally you'd have a point and what I just said was very retarded. However, he specifically claims that the only reason why there hasn't been another attack on the US is not our HomeLand Security bullshizzle. He specifically stated that operations are being set up in the United States and no security measures will stop it.

This shi[/u]t is like the SuperBowl for wife-beating towelheads. Yes, if their team gets upset they will blame it on the coach.
#16 Jan 19 2006 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
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So ... somebody else will replace him if his clout is diminished.
#17 Jan 19 2006 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, they were planning the 9/11 attacks for a good while before they actually went through with them. I'm not going to make any flippant remarks on how easy or hard it is to defeat the Dept. of Homeland Security but I wouldn't take the time lag to mean nothings in the works. Needless to say, I'd prefer that whatever's in the works fail.

But of course bin Laden has to say things are being planned. He can't well say "We've been sitting in a Pakistani cave for the last four years with nothing to show for it".
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#18 Jan 19 2006 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
Jophiel wrote:
Needless to say, I'd prefer that whatever's in the works fail..


I'm hoping for the fuse to be a dud, just so that this fascist police state bullshi[/u]t will be proven not to work while innocent people can still keep their lives. I'm a real optimist though.
#19 Jan 19 2006 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Lefein wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Needless to say, I'd prefer that whatever's in the works fail..


I'm hoping for the fuse to be a dud, just so that this fascist police state bullshi[/u]t will be proven not to work while innocent people can still keep their lives. I'm a real optimist though.


I'm hoping for a dud too. Mostly beacuse I work in downtown LA and don't want to die.
#20 Jan 19 2006 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I wonder what these conditions would entail? A separate Palestinian state, comprised of most of the important parts of Israel, of course...any other ideas?
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#21 Jan 19 2006 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
Since when has the US ever wanted peace? Our governments definition of it is to destroy all our opponents in the interests of "freedom" and "democracy". Whatever this nation stood for at one time is gone, the US is the way of Capitalism and nothing more.

Honestly, I'd love to see a peace treaty at least attempted...to show that we aren't completely bloodthirsty and unreasonable...but it's not going to happen. Bush is just going to continue pissing money and lives away to try and enhance his ego, despite the fact that nearly the entire nation is telling him to GTFO.

I mean fuc[/i]k, who the hell put [i]our oil under their sand, right?

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#22 Jan 19 2006 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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Debalic wrote:
I wonder what these conditions would entail? A separate Palestinian state, comprised of most of the important parts of Israel, of course...any other ideas?


The release of Saddam, and the public hanging of president Bush.
#23 Jan 19 2006 at 2:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
And you know someone is going to say "See? bin Laden is running scared and offering a truce because he knows Bush is going to win the war on terror!!"
White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the tape suggested bin Laden was "under pressure."

/nod

The ole White House hasn't released its transcripts from today's briefing yet. Still waiting to hear McClellan's entire statements.

Edit: Transcripts released. By my quick count, McClellan referred to bin Laden and terrorists as "on the run" at least ten times and "under pressure" about five times.

Edited, Thu Jan 19 16:29:41 2006 by Jophiel
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#25 Jan 19 2006 at 3:39 PM Rating: Default
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Kakar the Vile wrote:
Joph wrote:
So, what do you think? Will we strike a bargin? Enter a truce? I'm sure the demands are measured and reasonable.


Last time I heard, it was national policy that the U.S. does not negotiate with terrorists. They are not the government of a country to make treaties with, they are criminals.

*Edit*

But I bet we can offer some rock bottom prices on some surplus weapons we have just kickin around.


Edited, Thu Jan 19 12:19:57 2006 by Kakar


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#26 Jan 19 2006 at 10:28 PM Rating: Good
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shadowrelm wrote:
if rebuilding iraq and afganistan was our goal, it would be a good deal.

but its not. rebuilding an AMERICAN afgansitan and iraq is our goal.


*cough* The purpose of the tape is to get people like you to think exactly that. Nothing more. You think OBL doesn't know it's an election year in the US? Wouldn't be the first time he tailored his actions and messages specifically to current political movements within a target country. He want's to put the idea in people's heads that there "could" be a peace agreement, not because there is any chance of that working, but because it just might cause some dissention within our political structure.

It's a win/win for him. If we do adopt a strategy to go for this peace, he gets some breathing room and time to plan more attacks while we're playing sheep. If we don't, and he's able to do any sort of attack, or can even just prolong the conflicts in Iraq and/or Afghanistan, he know's it'll be one more talking point from the opposition saying that the Bush administration is costing us lives and money by conducting the war on terror.
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