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#1 Jan 18 2006 at 4:35 PM Rating: Default
over 100,000 people can not get prescriptions filled.

several states declare a medical emergancy to get medication to people in desterate need as a result.

federal government, who bungled the plan in the first place, tells states, tough luck, go talk to the HMO,s about YOUR problem WE created.

that about sums it up. after throughly messing up health care in this country to turn it over to "for profit" HMO,s, after tens of thousands of people sitting in emergancy rooms because their new HMO wont cover the medication they need, after state governments stepping in to help these people BEFORE they die.....the federal government who did a **** poor job of getting the new system organized, creating the problem to begine with, tells the states they have to talk to the HMO,s about recouping losses incured by trying to save peoples lives from the federal governments incompatance.

yep. now the state is in the same boat as the people who cannot get squat from an HMO.

there is a certain amount of irony in that.

after years of passing laws to let HMO,s create loopholes to hide behind when they deny you treatment, at the behest of HMO lobbiest, now they are in a position where THEY have to try and get what is due them from the same jackles that have been litterly letting people die by not treating them to save money.

not to worrie. as soon as a bill comes out letting the satte and people sue them in court, they will ponie up a settlement for the state so it will once again just be the people not getting treatment.

the moral majority working for you. ROFL, they will even sacrifice their young on the state level to get what they want on the federal level.

on a personel level, my mom, on heart medication, living on medicade and medicare, whose only income is social security, was told by the insurance company that she was FORCED into with the new program they do not cover her heart medication. they told her to ponie up 250 bucks of the 940 bucks she gets a month from social security for her medication or die basically. state didnt step in in her case. the help line was busy for a week before we found out about the problem and paid for her medication for her.

she is lucky. there are thousands of people who are not as lucky.

healthcare under the Bush addministraition. got money? you can live. dont? by by.
#2 Jan 18 2006 at 4:38 PM Rating: Default
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Shadorelm speaking of prescriptions, did you remember to take your Haldol today?
#3 Jan 18 2006 at 4:43 PM Rating: Default
Shadorelm speaking of prescriptions, did you remember to take your Haldol today?
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no. you didnt buy me any when you went to the store for your midol again. so inconsiderate. and wheres the rent money?
#4 Jan 18 2006 at 4:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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over 100,000 people can not get prescriptions filled.
Are they for emergency contraception?

Edited because I hate it when I spell "emergency" with an 'a'

Edited, Wed Jan 18 16:50:05 2006 by Jophiel
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#5 Jan 18 2006 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
Jophiel wrote:
shadowrelm wrote:
over 100,000 people can not get prescriptions filled.
Are they for emergency contraception?


Do those still work when the offspring in question is old enough to use teh interwebs?
#6 Jan 18 2006 at 4:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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#7 Jan 18 2006 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
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healthcare under the Bush addministraition. got money? you can live. dont? by by.



You make it sound like Bush made it this way. It's been that way since before Jesus. But it doesn't mean it has to be that way. I'd like to see America get Canadian style health care a lot. Free health care to all American citizens! And dont start complaining that it takes tax payer's money, we can tax the rich!



I say we tax the hell out of the top 5% rich, they're all asses anyway. They should thank us for taking their money anyway. "It is as easy for a rich man to pass through the gates of heaven as it is for a camel to pass through the head of a needle."


Also, trickle down theory sucks. Warren G. Harding's administration is proof, put faith in the rich to invest and you're screwed. Not only did it totally rape farmers and the lower business and working class, but I believe it led to the Depression years later when investors suddenly pulled out of key stocks. Clearly its the rich of America's fault, it could have been avoided if we just tax their money away. My God, I am so smart.

In fact, lets just take 50% of the money of anyone with over 100 million dollars. How can they complain? They're still 50+ million dollars-aires.
#8 Jan 18 2006 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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no. you didnt buy me any when you went to the store for your midol again. so inconsiderate. and wheres the rent money?

Same place as I always put it, sigh.

In the night-stand next to your bed, right after I get done servicing your wife, right on top of the Disney Cruise Line: "Your 2006 Passport to Adventure." pamphlet.

See it?

By the way I'm a bit short this month, do to a medicaide fubar.
#9 Jan 19 2006 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
In the night-stand next to your bed, right after I get done servicing your wife.
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sweet, two women in action.
#10 Jan 19 2006 at 10:17 AM Rating: Default
You make it sound like Bush made it this way. It's been that way since before Jesus. But it doesn't mean it has to be that way. I'd like to see America get Canadian style health care a lot. Free health care to all American citizens! And dont start complaining that it takes tax payer's money, we can tax the rich!
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every other country in the world has socialized medicine. we dont because we are a market based society.

some things should be inherantly government however. for the simple reason private industry cares about money, not people. HMO,s are a glaring example.

medicade and medicare was the governments response to that lack of caring about people by the insurance industry. the safety net yo catch the people no one wanted to catch from falling through the cracks.

they should not have done away with it, they should have started a for profit industry, like the post office, to compete with HMO,s to better controll their costs and services. they should have EXPANDED it.

but the republican stand is to do away with government controlls and let big bussiness and free market shape this country. the result? if you have money, you count. if you dont, well, by by.

the government was formed in 1776 to protect PEOPLE, not bussiness. sometimes the government needs to protect PEOPLE FROM BUSSINESS. like HMO,s fo rexample.

republicans would destroy your individual protections in favor of big bussiness. that is their platform. welcome to the moral majority, where God is about bussiness and profit, not about people.
#11 Jan 19 2006 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
As long as people like me have anything to say about it, people like you will continue to pine away in vain for welfare of the unwashed and penniless masses.

I didn't f'uck my life up and end up working a Walmart counter for 6 bucks an hour just so I could get myself rationed health care. With over 6 billion people on the planet, I am not even close to being in the camp that everyone has the right to top flight care anyway. Thin the f'ucking herd a little for all I care. Do you really expect me to give a rat's *** about some ghetto bunny who doesn't contribute anyway dieing of cancer or TB or Sickle Cell Anemia? AIDS is not my problem, gunshot wounds are not my problem. Paying for a checkup for some ******* whose mother prefers he wear FUBU to reasonably priced clothes while rolling a leased Escalade is not my Bob damned problem.

Fortunately, there's about 53% of the population who agrees with me, so f'uck you and the liberal, I'm sorry, "progressive" horse you rode in on.
#12 Jan 19 2006 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I didn't f'uck my life up and end up working a Walmart counter for 6 bucks an hour just so I could get myself rationed health care.


What we have here is a slippery slope, even if *no one* "f'ucked there life up" as you so put it. Who the hell would work these kind of jobs? The working poor or as you conservatives like to call them, "Lower-middle, single income familys" depend on this type of rationed health care. But before you get your panties in a twist, just remember, they don't have that long of a life span. So your taxes can go to bigger and better "Civili... I mean, Terrorist Killing SuperBombs.

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I am not even close to being in the camp that everyone has the right to top flight care


I'm sure you would change your tune if it was your toothless grin staring at the lady on the other side of the counter telling you your a dead man if your check bounces.

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Fortunately, there's about 53% of the population who agrees with me, so f'uck you and the liberal, I'm sorry, "progressive" horse you rode in on.


That Liberal or "progressive" horse you speak of is actually called humanitarianism. It's a damn shame more people don't care for there neighbor.
#13 Jan 19 2006 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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That Liberal or "progressive" horse you speak of is actually called humanitarianism. It's a damn shame more people don't care for there neighbor.


What did my neighbor ever do for me? Except for parking in front of my god damn garage so I can't drive my vehicle, or have their spoiled kids screaming and tearing around their condo while I'm trying to sleep.

Fu[i][/i]ck my neighbor.
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#14 Jan 19 2006 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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kaeleshtheklingon wrote:


That Liberal or "progressive" horse you speak of is actually called humanitarianism. It's a damn shame more people don't care for there neighbor.


Moe's heart is the smallest and blackest of the North American continent.
#15 Jan 19 2006 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Kakar the Vile wrote:


Fu[i][/i]ck my neighbor.



Is she hot?
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Kakar the Vile wrote:
What did my neighbor ever do for me? Except for parking in front of my god damn garage so I can't drive my vehicle, or have their spoiled kids screaming and tearing around their condo while I'm trying to sleep.
Mine tattled on my mom that she thought my lawn was too high.

I hope she doesn't have health care Smiley: mad
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#17 Jan 19 2006 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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fenderputy the Shady wrote:
Kakar the Vile wrote:


**** my neighbor.



Is she hot?




Unfortunately, no.
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#18 Jan 19 2006 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Kakar the Vile wrote:
fenderputy the Shady wrote:
Kakar the Vile wrote:


**** my neighbor.



Is she hot?




Unfortunately, no.


What about crazy? I think we've established you like em' a little nuts. Smiley: lol

Edited, Thu Jan 19 12:19:03 2006 by fenderputy
#19 Jan 19 2006 at 12:17 PM Rating: Good
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What about crazy. I think we've established you like em' a little nuts.


True. However this one's married. So whether she's crazy or not is kinda moot, as I avoid the married ones.
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#20 Jan 19 2006 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Kakar the Vile wrote:


fenderputy the Shady wrote:


Kakar the Vile wrote:



@#%^ my neighbor.






Is she hot?







Unfortunately, no.




What about crazy. I think we've established you like em' a little nuts.


Well, if your neighbor cared for you, you could fuck his wife, provided she was hot of course. But she's not, so ya know...
#21 Jan 19 2006 at 12:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Moe's heart is the smallest and blackest of the North American continent.


Duly noted.
#22 Jan 19 2006 at 12:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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What we have here is a slippery slope,

Isn't there an adendum to Godwin's which covers "slippery slope"?
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I'm sure you would change your tune if it was your toothless grin staring at the lady on the other side of the counter telling you your a dead man if your check bounces.

People love to say this, but they fail to remember or realize that I have been on that side of the economic spectrum. Its about what you fundamentally believe in. I believe that it is not the government's responsibility to make sure you have a healthy existence. If there's no charity out there to take you in, too bad.
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That Liberal or "progressive" horse you speak of is actually called humanitarianism. It's a damn shame more people don't care for there neighbor.

No, its called welfare. Its called entitlements. Its called "we don't care how big of a drain on society you are, we'll take money from people who earn it and make sure you get to be a leech for the next 60 years."

Bottom line, civilization has become too civilized for it's own good. We need a culling. Katrina was a good start. What natural disaster can we get to hit Detroit and Atlanta?
#23 Jan 19 2006 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:

Bottom line, civilization has become too civilized for it's own good. We need a culling. Katrina was a good start. What natural disaster can we get to hit Detroit and Atlanta?


This would be a nice point to your argument had Katrina not cost the American people billions.
#24 Jan 19 2006 at 12:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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This would be a nice point to your argument had Katrina not cost the American people billions.

Proof that correct thinking Conservative politicians are still vulnerable to the remaining masses of uneducated, poor and minority voters. We need more disasters so that these short-sighted and ill-equiped people no longer have access to polls.
#25 Jan 19 2006 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:

Proof that correct thinking Conservative politicians are still vulnerable to the remaining masses of uneducated, poor and minority voters. We need more disasters so that these short-sighted and ill-equiped people no longer have access to polls.


All so the religious movement can really take a hard grasp on the balls of social liberty. Yup that's what I want.
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#26 Jan 19 2006 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
People love to say this, but they fail to remember or realize that I have been on that side of the economic spectrum. Its about what you fundamentally believe in. I believe that it is not the government's responsibility to make sure you have a healthy existence. If there's no charity out there to take you in, too bad.
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if the governments job has nothing to do with the well being of the people who created it.....what is its purpose?

WE created the government. WE ARE the government. it has been hijacked by big bussiness. has been for a long time.

bussiness wll take care of itself. always has. no money in this, by by, move to where there is money. it is not Governmenmts job to ensure bussiness remain profitable. that is what free market is all about.

it is governments job to PROTECT people. that includes protecting them from big bussiness. it also includes health care for those that can not afford it. that is part of the benifit of being an american. a government BY the people, FOR the people. remember where that came from?

time for a tea party.
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