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#1 Jan 17 2006 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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They killed the unappealing old white guy last night.

He was not a nice man, except apparently sometimes. He killed his son's girlfriend because she witnessed his commission of a robbery; later, he ordered the death of another witness which resulted in the collateral damage of two other deaths.

He was as deserving of death as anyone on death row, I suppose. He, like Tookie Williams, never owned up to the deaths he caused; as a result, he never expressed remorse, either.

The difference is, the "protest" surrounding his death was limited to the hard core of death penalty protesters. They held a vigil. They may have tried to approach and comfort the family and friends who were not allowed or who chose not to witness the execution. They show up for every execution. Because what they protest is the penalty itself, not the penalty as applied to handsome or personable or talented people.

I don't know why the juxtaposition of these two cases bothers me so much. It's like a sore tooth.
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#2 Jan 17 2006 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Ugly white people are like the lowest of the low. Even lower than Mexicans.
#3 Jan 17 2006 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
The death penalty is no longer a deterrant to crime. Ok, solution follows:

2 appeals.
Public hangings.

Max time from sentence to hang 'em high: 1 year.

Done and done, people again start to take it seriously. F'uck sympathy for criminals. I say we start chopping off the hands of thieves and the d;cks of rapists.
#4 Jan 17 2006 at 11:02 AM Rating: Good
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
The death penalty is no longer a deterrant to crime. Ok, solution follows:

2 appeals.
Public hangings.

Max time from sentence to hang 'em high: 1 year.

Done and done, people again start to take it seriously. F'uck sympathy for criminals. I say we start chopping off the hands of thieves and the d;cks of rapists.


I entirely agree, we should adopt a more sharia~esque islamic theocracy brand type justice system.

Smiley: rolleyes
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#5 Jan 17 2006 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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the way excellent Moe wrote:
I say we start chopping off ..... the di[b][/b]cks of rapists

You have to take off both the franks and the beans of a rapist or else they will still have a sex drive and just rape with inanimate objects, like this.
#6 Jan 17 2006 at 11:07 AM Rating: Good
With Mullah George Bush as Supreme Democratic Chairman.
#7 Jan 17 2006 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
What we need is a re-classification of the death penalty altogether. The death penalty isn't so much of a penalty as it is a preventative measure for the rest of society. Noone is playing God here, since He will decide whther your soul goes to Heaven or Hell. What MUST be done is society needs to decide whether or not your crime was so heinous that we cannot afford for it to happen again. A death sentence is merely society deciding to protect itself from your acts. Nothing more, nothing less.

This would also negate the usefulness of the 'insanity plea' since all that needs to be established is guilt of the crime and the ability to do it again if facilitated.
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#9 Jan 17 2006 at 11:20 AM Rating: Good
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
With Imam George ibn George ibn Prescott al-New Haven Supreme Democratic Chairman.


FTFY.
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#10 Jan 17 2006 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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He was as deserving of death as anyone on death row, I suppose. He, like Tookie Williams, never owned up to the deaths he caused; as a result, he never expressed remorse, either.


As I read that, I realized that the idea of changing sentences based upon confession and remorse doesn't sit with me too well.

It's a tough position for me to rationalize, though.

EDIT: #666 eh? :P

Edited, Tue Jan 17 15:09:07 2006 by Eske
#11 Jan 17 2006 at 3:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Because saying you're sorry does so much good when you've killed some folks...
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#12 Jan 17 2006 at 3:36 PM Rating: Good
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Criminals lie; confessions matter as much as protestations of innocence, which is to say, not at all. I yearn for an objective system of justice, though it would mean doing away with juries.


http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/12/dna.execution.ap/

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RICHMOND, Virginia (AP) -- New DNA tests confirmed the guilt of a man who went to his death in Virginia's electric chair in 1992 proclaiming his innocence, the governor said Thursday.

The case had been closely watched by both sides in the death penalty debate because no executed convict in the United States has ever been exonerated by scientific testing.


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James McCloskey, executive director of Centurion Ministries, had been fighting to prove Coleman's innocence since 1988. The two shared Coleman's final meal together -- cold slices of pizza -- just a few hours before Coleman was executed.

"I now know that I was wrong. Indeed, this is a bitter pill to swallow," McCloskey said in a statement, describing Thursday's findings as "a kick in the stomach."

Death penalty advocates welcomed the results. "Stop the presses -- it turns out that rapists and killers are also liars," Michael Paranzino, president of a group called Throw Away the Key, said in a statement.
#13 Jan 17 2006 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
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"Stop the presses -- it turns out that rapists and killers are also liars," Michael Paranzino, president of a group called Throw Away the Key, said in a statement.


Smiley: lol Imagine that!

And the name of that group is just the greatest.
#14 Jan 17 2006 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Death sentences should be shortened for severe crimes. By the time anyone gets executed, they are already old enough to die of natural causes and to me lessens the power of the punishment.

Edited, Tue Jan 17 23:19:38 2006 by Maverickpjb
#15 Jan 18 2006 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Was it really neccessary to have pictures of the guy being killed?

No, but entertaining. Smiley: grin
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#16 Jan 18 2006 at 11:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Maverickpjb wrote:
Death sentences should be shortened for severe crimes. By the time anyone gets executed, they are already old enough to die of natural causes and to me lessens the power of the punishment.

Edited, Tue Jan 17 23:19:38 2006 by Maverickpjb


Well, this guy in particular was a late bloomer - he committed his first (known) homicide at age 50 or so, for which he received a life sentence. The death penalty offenses occurred while he was in prison, years after the first one.

All that being said, it does seem silly to have a death penalty if a prisoner is safer on death row (2% mortality rate in TEXAS, even lower elsewhere) than in a street gang (7% mortality rate in Chicago).
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#17 Jan 18 2006 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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All that being said, it does seem silly to have a death penalty if a prisoner is safer on death row (2% mortality rate in TEXAS, even lower elsewhere) than in a street gang (7% mortality rate in Chicago).


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