Clinton and Nagin are just the clowns warming up the crowds.
Did anyone catch Gore's speech on Monday? It's been replaying on CSPAN2, try and catch it. I haven't watched more then ten minutes of a political speech from ether party in fifteen years out of disgust. I watched this one beginning to end, it was that good.
Basically he stated that the current excesses of the executive branch imperils the Constitution and creates a horrible precedent for future presidents. It was interesting to watch a modern democrat stand up and take the administration on in black and white. He flatly accused the Bush Whitehouse of breaking the law and called for special council investigations. He took Congress to task and accused both parties of shirking their duties by allowing the Whitehouse to co-op Congress's role in the government.
And he did it without making himself look like a self severing jackass. I was impressed.
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Wingchild wrote:
The funny part is, slavery still exists,
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Welfare is Slavery.
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Welfare is Slavery.
What a completely asinine comparison. Comparing involuntary slavery to bums voluntarily accepting welfare payments is as ludicrous as it gets.
You'd make a good propagandist for racial racketeers like Jesse Jackson or Al "my brother is also my nephew" Sharpton though.
Coincidentally, real slavery does still exist, primarily in Africa and the arab world.
In other words, to this day, large numbers of blacks are enslaved by their own people and arab muslims, but you only hear about slavery in America, which ended 141 years ago.
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They are stuck at the bottom of the social ladder and have no way to escape their caste
Or maybe the majority of welfare recipients are just inept, useless bums who are too lazy to work for a living.
Edited, Wed Jan 18 16:28:41 2006 by SpinShark
SpinShark wrote:
In other words, to this day, large numbers of blacks are enslaved by their own people and arab muslims, but you only hear about slavery in America, which ended 141 years ago.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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She was taking a shot at republicans as well as using it as a metaphor.
Stating that the way slaves were treated is half-way equivalent of how the Dem's are currently being treated...
Just a thought.
Stating that the way slaves were treated is half-way equivalent of how the Dem's are currently being treated...
Just a thought.
Aww...almost shed a tear there. Can we just all stop pretending that any politicians on either side of the aisle hold any real moral ground, or care about anything beyond their own success? Might save us some time. Dem's, Repub's, whatever...two parties for 300 million people, what's the damn difference anyway.
For the most part, they all suck. Some might hold onto a bit of more of their humanity than others, and probably the freshmen of the group are a bit more idealistic and such...but most are just professional liars and manipulators (most? all? whatever...).
In regards to the OP though, Nagin's a big moron...that's all there is to it. Black, white, hispanic, I don't care...I just classify him as a dumb *** and move on. Even if he were part of some crazy conspiracy against whitey, whom he obviously shows no real love for, look at the guy for the love of Pete (I love Pete). He's an idiot! What kind of crazy revolution is he going to lead anyway? Just thinking about it makes me want to tell a Polish joke...damn I love those.
Honestly though, I'm no real estate agent or anything, but I don't see this big "rush" in the coming years to get property in a ginormous empty pool, waiting to be filled again for the summer. Whatever...the world truly sucks, and the retards who run it abound.
OK you're right Nagin is a dumbass. Anyone who says that God does things because he's angry or happy is a dumbass, for that matter. But the "Chocolate City" comment, he explained it further, the black people are the cocoa and the white people are the milk. Chocolate is made of white and black mixed together. That's a rough paraphrase but honestly, all he's doing is promoting racial diversity in his city. I think people like the OP heard him say the first part and jumped on the chance to slander someone by taking quotes out of context. He's still a dumbass... just not for being racist.
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But the "Chocolate City" comment, he explained it further, the black people are the cocoa and the white people are the milk. Chocolate is made of white and black mixed together. That's a rough paraphrase but honestly, all he's doing is promoting racial diversity in his city.
So THAT's how you make chocolate! I always thought it had something to do with beans.
Btw, he didn't "clarify" it later, he got caught saying it and then tried to spin it into something nice when questioned by a reporter later on...unfortunately for him he's to incompetent to handle that sort of thing.
Ed. For clarity's sake...and didn't do so well either.
Edited, Wed Jan 18 16:24:24 2006 by xtremereign
sonicmonkeys wrote:
But the "Chocolate City" comment, he explained it further, the black people are the cocoa and the white people are the milk. Chocolate is made of white and black mixed together. That's a rough paraphrase but honestly, all he's doing is promoting racial diversity in his city.
I admit I haven't heard or read what he said, but I believe this is, at best, a weak attempt at explaning it away after the fact.
That milk and dark chocolate thing was the weakest fu[i][/i]cking rationalization I've heard in a long, long time. He should be ashamed for insulting us by thinking we'd believe it.
He'd have been better served to just own his remarks and say "New Orleans had a black majority population before Katrina and I think that created much of its character and history and I'd like to see that restored" than to give that tortured milk comment.
He'd have been better served to just own his remarks and say "New Orleans had a black majority population before Katrina and I think that created much of its character and history and I'd like to see that restored" than to give that tortured milk comment.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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Dem's, Repub's, whatever...two parties for 300 million people, what's the damn difference anyway
There is no difference.
This is why republican/democrat partisan politics in America are a complete waste of time.
There is that Parliament song (or was it Funkadelic?) called Chocolate City, and they didn't mean milk and cocoa...
sonicmonkeys wrote:
OK you're right Nagin is a dumbass. Anyone who says that God does things because he's angry or happy is a dumbass, for that matter. But the "Chocolate City" comment, he explained it further, the black people are the cocoa and the white people are the milk. Chocolate is made of white and black mixed together. That's a rough paraphrase but honestly, all he's doing is promoting racial diversity in his city. I think people like the OP heard him say the first part and jumped on the chance to slander someone by taking quotes out of context. He's still a dumbass... just not for being racist.
Since when (being used in the context that Nagin did)does "chocolate" ever mean white people and black people. "Chocolate" has always meant black people. you are fool to believe what he said after his speech, when he was being question about it. His comment was completely out of line, and he should be held accountable for that. too bad he won't be though, since it is alright to commit reverse racisim in this country.
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Since when (being used in the context that Nagin did)does "chocolate" ever mean white people and black people. "Chocolate" has always meant black people. you are fool to believe what he said after his speech, when he was being question about it. His comment was completely out of line, and he should be held accountable for that. too bad he won't be though, since it is alright to commit reverse racisim in this country.
I find your usage of the term "reverse racism" to be racist. Are you saying that racism against white people is somehow different than racism against blacks?
Or wait....maybe i find it to be reverse racist. In which case I'm being racist.
Hell, I dunno.
Whites are special so we need our own unique form of racism, away from that garden variety racism the lesser people endure.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Eske wrote:
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Since when (being used in the context that Nagin did)does "chocolate" ever mean white people and black people. "Chocolate" has always meant black people. you are fool to believe what he said after his speech, when he was being question about it. His comment was completely out of line, and he should be held accountable for that. too bad he won't be though, since it is alright to commit reverse racisim in this country.
I find your usage of the term "reverse racism" to be racist. Are you saying that racism against white people is somehow different than racism against blacks?
Or wait....maybe i find it to be reverse racist. In which case I'm being racist.
Hell, I dunno.
I am racist towards racists.. I think we all su[b][/b]ck.
Jophed,
People have the potential to better themselves; that's something the government can't do for them. Until we gut social services we'll continue to see the ghetto's increasing rapidly.
Achileez
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Slavery, by definition, is involuntary. "Not bothering" is completely a voluntary decision. Are you disagreeing with the notion that people have the potential to better themselves?
People have the potential to better themselves; that's something the government can't do for them. Until we gut social services we'll continue to see the ghetto's increasing rapidly.
Achileez
achileez wrote:
People have the potential to better themselves; that's something the government can't do for them.
Never EVER say that to a liberal.
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Never EVER say that to a liberal.
Saying that social serves encourage people to not seek better employment, education, etc may well be a valid argument. Saying that, because of social serves, people are incapable of seeking better employment, education, etc is just stupid.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
No, it's not. It's just a point you happen to disagree with, hence your distaste for the position.
When you do everything for people, they slowly lose the ability to do things for themselves. Or perhaps it is better to say they retain the ability, should push come to shove, but they lose any drive, desire, or incentive to apply same. So it goes for a first generation public burden, but what of the second generation? What of the third?
How long does it take to produce a people who are illiterate at age 20, who lack basic math skills, and who lack anything resembling the attention span and discipline needed to learn same? The question is rhetorical - we already have plenty of people just like this.
Their future opportunities are limited to working cash registers that have pictures of food items on them, as written words would be too confusing. We're creating a class of service-people (it sounds nicer than slave), those who can only make an unacceptible wage to do unrewarding work for uncaring masters in an effort to serve an uninterested public.
Really, what kind of life is that? It sounds like a lot of effort for no reward. Hell, they'll take away your benefits if you start making anything approaching the ***-end of the minimum wage. It's better to just not try.
When you do everything for people, they slowly lose the ability to do things for themselves. Or perhaps it is better to say they retain the ability, should push come to shove, but they lose any drive, desire, or incentive to apply same. So it goes for a first generation public burden, but what of the second generation? What of the third?
How long does it take to produce a people who are illiterate at age 20, who lack basic math skills, and who lack anything resembling the attention span and discipline needed to learn same? The question is rhetorical - we already have plenty of people just like this.
Their future opportunities are limited to working cash registers that have pictures of food items on them, as written words would be too confusing. We're creating a class of service-people (it sounds nicer than slave), those who can only make an unacceptible wage to do unrewarding work for uncaring masters in an effort to serve an uninterested public.
Really, what kind of life is that? It sounds like a lot of effort for no reward. Hell, they'll take away your benefits if you start making anything approaching the ***-end of the minimum wage. It's better to just not try.
None of which has anything at all to do with the involuntary nature of slavery or your desperate attempts to connect the two as a means of crying about social services.
Even poor little third-generation welfare receipient Mary Jones, working at her pictograph cash register, has the ability to seek education and higher employment, yes?
The key difference being that they have the option to try.
Maybe you need to look into what "slavery" is. It's not an socio-economic label used to decry welfare.
Even poor little third-generation welfare receipient Mary Jones, working at her pictograph cash register, has the ability to seek education and higher employment, yes?
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It's better to just not try.
Maybe you need to look into what "slavery" is. It's not an socio-economic label used to decry welfare.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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