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#27 Jan 13 2006 at 9:43 PM Rating: Decent
Can always use healers, of course, but I know we don't have any druids or rogues really that are mains or even past 20. I'd have a better idea if I were at home and could check the roster, but I'm still killing the last twenty minutes of my shift. Oh, and boobs.
#28 Jan 13 2006 at 9:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Are druids as useless in WoW as they are in EQ? Like I said, I don't do rogues either. Cleric always interested me, so I might try that out. I never got my HE cleric past 25 when I played on Vallon Zek.

Last question: how does WoW compare to EQ1 in terms of gameplay, grouping, ability to solo, time-comittment, etc? I'd love to play, but not if I have to devote hours at a time to get anywhere like you did in EQ.
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#29 Jan 13 2006 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Are druids as useless in WoW as they are in EQ? Like I said, I don't do rogues either. Cleric always interested me, so I might try that out. I never got my HE cleric past 25 when I played on Vallon Zek.

Last question: how does WoW compare to EQ1 in terms of gameplay, grouping, ability to solo, time-comittment, etc? I'd love to play, but not if I have to devote hours at a time to get anywhere like you did in EQ.



WoW is EQ burnout heaven.
#30 Jan 13 2006 at 10:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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#31 Jan 13 2006 at 10:19 PM Rating: Default
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WHO THE **** R U AND WHAT THE ****?!
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#32 Jan 13 2006 at 10:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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WHO THE **** R U AND WHAT THE ****?!
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Wrong thread? Next time, try to take your head out of your as[i][/i]s before you decide to post.
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#33 Jan 13 2006 at 10:27 PM Rating: Good
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#34 Jan 13 2006 at 11:47 PM Rating: Good
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Demea play whatever feels most comfortable to you in the game. You wanna DPS? do it. YOu want to heal? Do it. YOu want to be a specific race? As long as its alliance it works, at least for this guild.

My suggestion is to play around with some alts to get a feel. You need to get to at least lvl 10 to get a feel for the individual classes, but it doesnt take long at all. Ex already changed from Pally to War because he felt more comfy as a NE but didnt know it until he tried. So play around.


And yeah, WoW is less time consuming hour wise compared to EQ. Youll love it
#35 Jan 14 2006 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Welcome aboard Exodus, Demea your next Smiley: sly
#36 Jan 14 2006 at 2:09 AM Rating: Good
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Good advice from DSD and the others - You get 10 character slots to go nuts and try out different characters. While our guild is approaching 60 toons, maybe 30 of those are real folks. A lot of us have plenty of alt characters, so if you are just starting out, chances our we will have someone to group with you. Exodus and Wint joined us tonight, as a matter of fact.

By the way, we're on the Shadow Council server on the Alliance side for those just starting the game. All Asylum posters are welcome to join us.

We're a growing but still fairly casual guild, so you play what you want to play. Yes, we could use some healers, as our two highest level priests are rarely on. Druids are wonderful and very popular. They are jack-of-all trades and do it very well. Want to tank? Turn into a bear. Want to be a rogue? Turn into a panther. Want to nuke? Do some nature damage nuking. Want to heal? Druids are outstanding healers. Druids also get a fast run speed at level 20 in the form of a cheetah.

Priests on WoW need some loving from the developers (my wife lets me know constantly as she has a 60 priest). I think they are gonna get fixed in the next big patch (1.10).

Anyhoo, generally speaking, we could use more mages, rogues, priests, paladins and druids. We have an abundance of warlocks, warriors, and hunters. But for any of you, don't let that hinder your ability to join us. We're all there to have fun, so play with what makes you happy.

While my mage is the Guild Founder, I play my paladin, Stryde, as my primary toon. He hit level 36 tonight. I seem to be the designated healer until our priests get back online to play and more priests level up. We'll really be hurting for healers as we get higher in level, and without true healers like priests and druids, we're gonna have an extremely difficult time getting through some of the tougher dungeon romps (instances).

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#37 Jan 14 2006 at 4:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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I played a pally in EQ as my main for a long time, and had a blast with it. The only thing that really hindered that character (besides getting banned) was the fact that, once I reached the higher levels, I just couldn't tank as well as a warrior, so I'd get passed up in groups. How does a paladin compare to a warrior as far as tanking ability?

Also, how does a druid stack up against a priest? Is the druid similar to a bard in EQ, without the songs?
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#38 Jan 14 2006 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
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Demea, I was a huge WoW naysayer. I had played in the open beta, and it just didn't do a thing for me. It was EQ or nothing.

But I'm really having a blast now. This game is great for those of us who can't devote an entire day in front of the computer to a game anymore (you'll still want to devote an entire day to WoW cause it's fun, but that's not the point, lol)

You really can log on for an hour or so and feel like you got something accomplished. And as for performance, right now the only time I get any video lag is when I'm in the city of Ironforge. Popular place, and in some spots it's kind of like being by the bank in PoK, so I move slow. Other than that, the game runs great for me.
#39 Jan 14 2006 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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Once I saw my pally with a giant hammer and that I wanted to be a night elf, I said ***** it. Smiley: laugh


I'm now a Night Elf warrior, which I see me gearing towards damage dealer.


Only level 4...and wowzers. This game is hawt.



Now...for the best part...how do I do that wowsig thing? Part of the reason I joined was to annoy Joph with it. Smiley: grin
#41 Jan 14 2006 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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Nobby- World of Warcraft players in Europe play on different servers so you are sh[b][/b]it out of luck. If you got smoggy or someone to mail you a copy of US version it might work.

Twiztid - Paladin are a very cool class. They suffer in DPS but make it up with the fact they are all but impossible to kill. They are in demand in groups though because they can resurrect people and make great back up healers.

If I had to choose the most group unfriendly classes it would be: Rogues and Hunters. Simply because the classes are so over populated in the game.

No class sucks though. Come join the game. Once you have a char past lvl 10 I will twink you Twizzle. (Disclaimer during 10 day trial I am unable to do so and would have to wait for it to end).
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#42 Jan 14 2006 at 10:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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I played a pally in EQ as my main for a long time, and had a blast with it. The only thing that really hindered that character (besides getting banned) was the fact that, once I reached the higher levels, I just couldn't tank as well as a warrior, so I'd get passed up in groups. How does a paladin compare to a warrior as far as tanking ability?


Well the best information or maybe the most negative information can be found on the WoW Class message boards.

Paladins are tanks and somewhat like EQ bards in that they have some group buffs - if your group is without a warrior, a paladin will suffice. Yes, a warrior will and should be the MT more often than not. But Paladins are great secondary tanks and backup healers. I played a Warrior to 60 and loved it, but I am enjoying the Paladin. Many people say that a playing a paladin is the easiest class to play. Yes and no.

Paladins can do ok at soloing, but they lack range capability (at least at lower levels (I know of one item in your mid-40s mid 50s range where Paladins can use a boomerang). They do have an Exorcise Undead spell that can be cast from a distance at the undead - and there are plenty of undead in the game - skeletons, ghouls, etc.

Still, their tanking ability and healing ability can make them last for quite the distance in a fight. They have one spiffy stun ability move that is nice. Otherwise, they are rather bland fighters as they just swing and bonk. Warriors, Rogues, and Hunters all outshine in the fighting moves department as well as DPS (damage per second). But the tradeoff is none of them can heal themselves during a fight unless they have healing potions.

Groups are where Paladins truly shine. The are quite complex when first looking at all their abilities - but read the Paladin Class boards on the WoW website and look for Paladin guides for more detail. As I mentioned before, I am usually the primary healer and secondary tank all-in-one lately, and it's a challenging task. God knows I'm not the best healer out there by any means. Thank goodness for rez capability! Anyhoo, paladins are welcome in groups for their multifunctionality.

You can only choose between Humans and Dwarves to be Paladins. I should mention that Humans racial mount are horses anyhoo, but the Paladin steed stands out nicely. Dwarven mounts are normally rams, but if you play a Dwarven Paladin, you will also get a horse. As a longtime fan of Dwarves, I prefer playing other classes for my Dwarven characters as I love the Ram mounts. I think they're spiffy!

Despite Exodus's naysaying about the big hammer, I think it's pretty cool. There is a level 20 series of quests that rewards you with Verigan's Fist, an awesome 2hd hammer that will last you from level 20 to your early level 40s.

Another perk of the Paladin - like Warlocks, free mount at level 40. Other classes have to pay out about 90 gold (normally a 100 gold, but if you faction with your home city/racial starting point is Honorable, the cost is reduced to 90 gold). The epic mounts at level 60 cost 900 gold with Honorable faction. Paladins and Warlocks have to undergo another series of grueling quests and there is some cost of gold factored in as well. But the level 40 mount is free.

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Also, how does a druid stack up against a priest? Is the druid similar to a bard in EQ, without the songs?


They do very well - while priests have a larger mana pool and wider variety of healing spells, druids are excellent single target healers and healing over time spells (regen). Druids have been fixed (i.e., Blizzard did a talents review on them) and Priests will have their talents reviewed and patched in patch 1.10 (next big patch).

I would say that Druids are very versatile like bards, but Paladins are probably more similar to EQ bards in terms of buffage. They both have a wide variety of things they can do.

Whew! Sorry for the long post - I'm sure some things may be argued here, but this is from my experience playing a lev 60 Warrior, lev 40 Druid, and lev 47 Paladin (first character on first server I played long time ago).
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#43 Jan 14 2006 at 10:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Meh been thinking about rolling a Human Preist with you guys, BUT ALLIANCE ARE T3H SUxx0RZ!


You would be a great addition, WarMaverick. I know at some point we will all want to play on the Horde side, especially when the new expansion comes out this Summer (hopefully!) with the Blood Elves. I have never played a Horde character past level 12, so I look forward to playing either a Tauren Hunter or Blood Elf Warrior.

I only wish Blizzard listened to the fans that wanted for Horde races Ogres and Goblins. I'd play them in a heartbeat. Still, the Blood Elves are great to have since the Horde side doesn't currently have the greatest variety of attractive females to play.

I think Blizzard underestimated the huge female fanbase out there. Many women will not play Horde since the females are, well, frankly, butt-ugly. I know it's a reason my wife doesn't play on the Horde side and I've seen many posts from female players on the WoW boards say the same thing. Sure, there are women who do play on the Horde side and have no vanity issues, but I've seen plenty female posters on the WoW boards think otherwise.

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#45 Jan 14 2006 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
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Of course Blizzard wasn't the only one suprised by the huge female fanbase. As for a male rolling a female toon, tempting, but just not good taste.

That and you guys play on a RP PVP server. Is the leet speak really minimal there? Is there any actual way to stop leet kiddies and fanboys from chatting it up in an RP server?


It is just RP, not RP PvP.

It is a very decent server. Of course any starting zone is full of idiots but they tend to not make it past lvl 15-20.
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#47 Jan 14 2006 at 12:12 PM Rating: Default
People should download DAoC if you like PVP
#49 Jan 14 2006 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Paladin FTW!

I've gone through 3 different servers. Every one I couldn't resist rolling a paladin. They are the jack of all, master of none. Pretty much everything Smoggy said about paladins is 100% true.

If you do go that route, just go through your holy tree until your 40/50's

No one likes a retn00b.

A few pointers that were probably already covered, but ***** it

1) Your not a warrior. You can't do massive DPS, but you can do some. Think of yourself as a combat medic. Your job is to make DAMN sure the squishes don't get aggro if the warrior has problems. Blessing of salvation for the fights, blessing of wisdom after.

2) Your not the Main tank. That’s a Warriors job. You are a decent off tank. If you spec holy you have consecration, which is a GREAT off tank ability. Especially with large groups of mobs. MT hits the biggest baddie of them all; you consecrate and tank all of the 5 off tank mobs.

3) Your not a priest. You can never heal as good as a priest. But you’re damn close. In the holy tree you have a free Super heal every 2 minuets. You have the most mana efficient light heals in the game. Spam FoL FTW!

4) If I ever hear the fuc[/b]king words "Shield+hearth=FTW" from you I will personally hunt you the fu[b]ck down and kill you with a herring.

5) You are a paladin. Protector of the light. Crusader for the Order of the Silver hand. Act like it damit. You are the one who saves the entire groups from wipes (LEARN WHAT THE FU[/b]CK Divine Intervention IS). If someone asks you what that is, and you don't fu[b]cking know, then prepare to never get a PUG (pick up group for you slow bast[b][/b]ards).

5) You do it all, just remember when it is appropriate to be doing it all. If you’re needed for healing only, try to stick with it while doing a little DPS. Remember, to do a decent amount of DPS, you'll be burning mana like crazy. Unless you have the mana pool of fricken god, stick with healing and auto-attacking while buffing and cleasening.

Now that I think about it, you guys need a paladin? I dunno if I'm gonna stick on my RP/PVP server for too long.
#50 Jan 14 2006 at 12:39 PM Rating: Default
Fine fine how about America's Army? No wait.. I remember I hate cheaters
#51 Jan 14 2006 at 1:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Good info, Smoggy. I guess I'll just play around and read class descriptions until I find something that tickles my fancy.
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