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Aw man. I had no problem with people smoking and killing themselves slowly in bars and such, but this makes the process much too slow. I guess I better get to work... *loads rounds into chamber*














Yes, I'm teasing.

Here where I live we disallowed smoking in all public places, including bars, quite awhile ago.

Everyone got over the initial "shock" quite quickly and have adapted well.

Having worked in a bar for about 6 years, I gotta admit it would have been nice not to have had to deal with smoke in the face, dirty ashtrays and those 'accidental' burns that happen when you have drunk people smoking in crowded places.

I don't think there should be any laws dictating what businesses you can smoke in. However, I think places that do allow smoking should be required to provide free lifelong healthcare to anyone on their payroll that is exposed to it. This healthcare would need to have an unlimited lifetime cap with no deductible, it would not be able to exclude any licensed medical facility nor deny any doctor recommended procedure if it relates to any illness that can be directly or indirectly linked to exposure to second hand smoke. In addition they would be required to contribute to a federally funded insurance pool to ensure that said workers are covered even if the place of business ceases to exist.

Let capitalism take care of the problem. When your drink costs $356 businesses that allow smoking will be allot harder to find.

The problem is that smoking puts a huge burden on the public healthcare system. Do you think 60 year old Joe Shmoe pays for 5 years of lung cancer treatment when he is going to die anyway? Who do you think pays for that? Sure smoking should be allowed, but there should be sufficient taxes per pack to cover the drain it causes to society. Something like $30 a pack oughta do it.

There are proven links between smoking and health issues.


Look I could give a crap if you kill yourself smoking, however, it pisses me off that I can't afford healthcare coverage because it costs 8 grand to goto the hospital because they need to recoup the costs from every tom, ****, and harry who spends their entire life doing something they know is likely to kill them slowly, agonizingly, and expensivly, and then expect top notch medical care for free in their last few years of life.

I realize that smoking doesn't just affect the smoker, but still... I hate being told that I'm not able to do something that (right now) is still perfectly legal.

There are no laws like this in TN, but I'm sure it's coming.

You're a liar. It would have been more accurate to replace "my usual response" with "It would be funny if I".

I'm kind of curious as to why they will still allow smoking on the casino floors. Does the logic not apply there, are you free from second hand smoke because you are gambling? Why do I get the feeling it's because of the tax revenue produced?

Here in CT, they outlawed smoking in bars a while back. Lucky for us, we have two Native American tribal casinos in the area where the State's silly laws have no jurisdiction. Bar owners state-wide cried up and down how unfair this was and that they'd all go out of business because of all their customers going to smoke and drink at the casino instead of their usual watering holes. As of yet, I've not heard of any places going under because of the smoking ban and all the bars are still hopping.

Edited, Fri Jan 13 09:37:10 2006 by Jacobsdeception

They banned smoking in public places here a little over 2 years ago. I, too, smoked at the time. I, too, was a little miffed over it. In retrospect I'm glad they did it. It helped me quit smoking, and now I can enjoy a meal or a beer without having to smell cigarettes while doing it.

The casinos probably argued that if the smokers had to get up from the table and go outside to smoke they would not gamble as much and it would kill their revenue. <shrug>

the only thing i can say is that FL now has a simular law, but no exceptions for casinos. All of the bars, resteraunts, etcs. all said the same thing as yours are now. it will kill their business, etc.

it has not, and the bar/resteraunt next to my school has more people going to it today then it did before the smoking ban.

I'm sure it is. That and the casinos have a powerful lobby that can help "convince" lawmakers to exempt them.

Banning smoking in bowling allies has killed one of my most vivid 3-year old memories. That smell of cigerette smoke, alley wax and metal machinery has been ruined.

Casino's too would be devoid of that memorable odor if smoking was disallowed.

Remember when you could smoke on airplanes?