I guess this is one way to settle the whole question of whether Jesus existed.
I read this and I'm still trying to understand the point of why the lawsuit was filed to begin with.
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Jesus dragged into courtFollow
That's hard core.
10 years ago I would have thought that this would happen in America....
but not now.
10 years ago I would have thought that this would happen in America....
but not now.
Cascioli should get the devil to fight for him. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. That and he's got more lawyers.
Edited, Fri Jan 6 15:23:21 2006 by MentalFrog
Edited, Fri Jan 6 15:23:21 2006 by MentalFrog
Boy...I sure do hope God wins. He is going to be pissed if he finds out he doesn't exist.
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Boy...I sure do hope God wins. He is going to be pissed if he finds out he doesn't exist.
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Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
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Cascioli says Righi, and by extension the whole Church, broke two Italian laws. The first is "Abuso di Credulita Popolare" (Abuse of Popular Belief) meant to protect people against being swindled or conned. The second crime, he says, is "Sostituzione di Persona", or impersonation.
"The Church constructed Christ upon the personality of John of Gamala," Cascioli claimed, referring to the 1st century Jew who fought against the Roman army.
A court in Viterbo will hear from Righi, who has yet to be indicted, at a January 27 preliminary hearing meant to determine whether the case has enough merit to go forward.
"In my book, The Fable of Christ, I present proof Jesus did not exist as a historic figure. He must now refute this by showing proof of Christ's existence," Cascioli said.
"The Church constructed Christ upon the personality of John of Gamala," Cascioli claimed, referring to the 1st century Jew who fought against the Roman army.
A court in Viterbo will hear from Righi, who has yet to be indicted, at a January 27 preliminary hearing meant to determine whether the case has enough merit to go forward.
"In my book, The Fable of Christ, I present proof Jesus did not exist as a historic figure. He must now refute this by showing proof of Christ's existence," Cascioli said.
Hey, the guy wrote a book. I thought that's all the proof Christians needed.
Read about this yesterday.
It is just a preliminary hearing to see if the case has the merits to go to court. Probably just a means for the guy to publicisize his book. Which is why the defendant is kind of like "why sue me?"
It is just a preliminary hearing to see if the case has the merits to go to court. Probably just a means for the guy to publicisize his book. Which is why the defendant is kind of like "why sue me?"
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
My question is this- if he somehow proves Jesus didn't exist, which is a daunting task when you're right next door to the pope, what exactly is that gonna accomplish? It'll get appealed, moved to higher and higher courts I suppose, but at the end of the day, how many Christians are going to just go "Oh. Well crap. Better convert to Judaism."
*edit*
Edited, Fri Jan 6 16:04:22 2006 by Althrun
*edit*
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Hey, the guy wrote a book. I thought that's all the proof Christians needed.
Edited, Fri Jan 6 16:04:22 2006 by Althrun
He is challenging it
The first is "Abuso di Credulita Popolare" (Abuse of Popular Belief) meant to protect people against being swindled or conned. The second crime, he says, is "Sostituzione di Persona", or impersonation.
There is no historical proof of Jesus. What little their is has been thoroughly debunked or is so questionable that it is not worth bringing to court. A guy rights a book about the historical accuracy of Christ and then pushes a court case questioning the same thing for no reason at all. How many extra books do you think he is going to sell?
The first is "Abuso di Credulita Popolare" (Abuse of Popular Belief) meant to protect people against being swindled or conned. The second crime, he says, is "Sostituzione di Persona", or impersonation.
There is no historical proof of Jesus. What little their is has been thoroughly debunked or is so questionable that it is not worth bringing to court. A guy rights a book about the historical accuracy of Christ and then pushes a court case questioning the same thing for no reason at all. How many extra books do you think he is going to sell?
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
I think his point is that the Church needs to prove Jesus's existence before they continue teaching it to schoolchildren as fact.
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There is no historical proof of Jesus. What little their is has been thoroughly debunked or is so questionable that it is not worth bringing to court.
Oh....there isn't?
Well sh[b][/b]it.
NephthysWanderer the Charming wrote:
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There is no historical proof of Jesus. What little their is has been thoroughly debunked or is so questionable that it is not worth bringing to court.
Oh....there isn't?
Well sh[b][/b]it.
There isn't.
There are no records, tax receipts, mentions during or within 20-30 prior of his death, no official roman records of the time even allude to him except one that was written 50 years after his death and that one is questionable because it clear that the original manuscript was altered at some point by a christian monk.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
...for once I kind of agree with bodhi. There is no real proof that syas that he existed. He was a figure created by the founders of Christianity in order to control the masses.
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The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
Alan Watts wrote:
I am omnipotent insofar as I am the Universe, but I am not an omnipotent in the role of Alan Watts, only cunning
Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
Well since we can prove that Jesus never existed, maybe we could provide some links or something...you know. Just for sh[b][/b]its and giggles.
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Well since we can prove that Jesus never existed, maybe we could provide some links or something...you know. Just for sh[/i]its and giggles.
You mean, you don't want them to Gbaji this?
Sorry, low blow. But it had to be done for humor.
[i]*edit to break the fu[i]cking filter*[/i]
Edited, Fri Jan 6 16:53:00 2006 by Althrun
Q:How many Christians does it take to ***** in a lightbulb.
A:2 to unscrew it and 98 to judge how they do it.
A:2 to unscrew it and 98 to judge how they do it.
he is trying to prove Christ didnt exist by forcing the church to prove that he did.
sounds familuar. hmmmm, what could it be.....SATAN MABE?....no wait, something closer to home.......trying to prove Iraq has WMDs by forcing them to prove they dont....yea thats it.
two nut cases born from the same pod.
sounds familuar. hmmmm, what could it be.....SATAN MABE?....no wait, something closer to home.......trying to prove Iraq has WMDs by forcing them to prove they dont....yea thats it.
two nut cases born from the same pod.
Oolon Colluphid
You guys are too easy
You guys are too easy
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UndeadShroom the Charming wrote:
...for once I kind of agree with bodhi. There is no real proof that syas that he existed. He was a figure created by the founders of Christianity in order to control the masses.
nice logic
There is no proof of "Y", therefore it must be "X" and "Z", right!?
Kelv ... who the hell is that Asian chick in your avatar? I would stick my chop sticks in her rice bowl.
Edited, Fri Jan 6 17:59:17 2006 by fenderputy
Edited, Fri Jan 6 17:59:17 2006 by fenderputy
http://www.battlestargalactica-online.com/encyclopedie/personnages/S.Valerii/
New Episode tonight
edited for better link
Edited, Fri Jan 6 18:16:05 2006 by Kelvyquayo
New Episode tonight
edited for better link
Edited, Fri Jan 6 18:16:05 2006 by Kelvyquayo
fenderputy the Shady wrote:
Kelv ... who the hell is that Asian chick in your avatar? I would stick my chop sticks in her rice bowl.
I thought it was a guy. /shrug
That can't be the same person. /boggle
I want to see him win. If he loses the 4% of the world population that makes up strong atheism will be pissed. If he wins then the 33% of the world population that makes up Christianity will be pissed. And pissed off christians are funnier than pissed off atheists.
Nobody is saying that one can't believe in Jesus, but if there's no evidence that he existed as even a historical figure then you shouldn't be able to teach it as a fact that he did.
Nobody is saying that one can't believe in Jesus, but if there's no evidence that he existed as even a historical figure then you shouldn't be able to teach it as a fact that he did.
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