Your advice, good cnuts.Follow

I may have forgotten to mention, that despite the tone of my post I in no way plan to implement your suggestions, unless it may achieve my goal of being motherf[/b]ucking rich. I ask only for your anecdotes, which may make me feel at least minutely content as I hemmorage dollars into the great cun[b]t that is Great Western Appliance. They don't have a website, so I'll simply ********** on their showroom window.


Thus my disapproval is expressed, at least.

Yes, the contract expresses that the "tenants" lawfully occupy an area of approximately thirty-one square feet betwen units 3 and 4, which is right where it is between my two single mothers looking for cheap rent. I told them I was evicting them for noise, and they told me to seek counsel, less than eloc[b][/b]untly, I fear the provider's attitude may neccesitate such a reaction. And in case anyone forgot, we're talking about a washer and dryer. They have paid their rent,whicgh is $10/month, but the units have not been replaced since 1988.

You know, I sell insurance, clearly not for the same company as anyone else who posts here, but for one of the Big 3.

I have considered having the agitator of offending appliance rip off my arm. Alas, I can't decide, rip off my ************ arm or the hand with which I wear my watch. I'd enjoy your comments on that, as well.

Ensure that it becomes more cost effective to remove the units than to keep maintaining them in your complex. It would be easy enough to obtain brand new units. I recommend drying a few balloons full of zippo fluid.

Are you dead set on the washer and dryer?

I'd get a Whirlpool/hottub.

few things you need to look into.

A. what are the landlord laws in your state, county, city.

B. have your lawyer come over that contract and find the loopholes, there will be at least 1.

C. worst case give them 180 days to vacate the property and site what ever reason you legally can, again ask your lawyer.

if this is just a matter of replacing a washer/dryer set and the "owners" of the ones that are there do not want new ones added to replace and upgrade there, then keep your money or spend it on other improvements.

example, do some construction on the unit right in front of their door or out their windows... ie make a lot of "legal noise" and have it stretch out for an extended amount of time. maybe then they will listen to "reason" and give you want you want.

Coincidentally, my boss owns a lot of apartment complexes in the Fresno/Clovis area and he ran into this exact problem. We looked into every possibility to get out of the lease (and my boss is a lawyer). In order to just avoid the hassle (because trying to reason with these laundry companies is like trying to tell Niobia to please be quiet), he just asked the company how much money would they accept to terminate the lease. He paid, they left. If I remember right, he paid something along the lines of 2/3 of the remaining lease term.

from a bussiness stand point, it makes no sence to replace the machines unless, like another poster pointed out, you plan on putting in coin operated machines in a place where there currently are none.

as far as the lease is concerned, your stupid **** should have looked at them BEFORE you bought the units. a renewable 5 year lease? WTF were you thinking? the standard is 1 year for the explicit purpose of reevaluating the provisions of the lease on a yearly basis.

as far as renting is concerned, it has been my experience renting is done for the sole purpose of sitting on appreciating assets while having someone else help pay for the upkeep. not for making money from renting itself.

thats why so many rental apartments turn to condos.

solutions? sell the property with its five year lease to another idiot. or sit on it untill 2010 and put in your 180 day notice, and prey the appreciation on the property ends up being greater than the cost of maintaining the property, including taxes and insurance.

a little hint on trying to put a coin operated system in. in a heartbeat, your tenets will have those cheap, small closet systems you see in alot of apartment buildings, leaking water all over your floors, causing even more money to be spent in repairs.

Duh. Steal the old machines and sell them. Repeat until the other party decides to break the contract. Use the profits from the machines to finance a lawsuit against the other party. Accept a sleeping interest of 38% in their business and a buyout of your new machines (at a profit) as settlement. Have the old machines taken out and the new machines purchased from you moved in. Make sure the coin-op company continues to use long term contracts and gets dumb people to sign them. This solves your problem and nets you a nice reward for your time and trouble. Best of all, nobody loses an appendage. You owe me.

I've read this thread about 4 times today and I have to say this part confuses me to the point that I dont even understand the problem:



No matter how many times I read it, I dont get it. Especially the bolded part.

Edited to add that I really want to understand the situation here because I have considered purchasing rental property so I am curious about this. Unfortunately, I just don't get it.

Edited, Thu Jan 5 18:00:21 2006 by klyia

Thanks, what about this part:



Does this mean that you can cancel it in writing? If so, why not just cancel it in writing? If not, what does it mean? I'm sure it is a simple explanation, but the wording here doesn't agree with me.

It's a penalty for not being punctual. It means that if he wants to cancel he has to give them 6 months notice before the renewal and that if he does nothing, it's automatically renewed. A mighty convenient contract for both parties if you want to keep going perpetually. Otherwise, it's a PITA.

I hate you. I do prey on Jesus when hungry, but I think you had no way of determining that context, ******** Seriously, if I took your advice it would be like seeking out a crackwhore for guidance related to oral cleanliness. And yes, I'll ask your mother when I get around to it.
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yep, being called an idiot does make people hate me.

i have run my own bussiness however. and there is no way i would have bought those units with a standing 5 year....cough....big ***** up....RENEWABLE.....dumbarse.....lease for the tenets. bet you got a good deal on the price didnt you? hhahahahaha, im laughing AT you, not with you. well, me and the person who sold you the property. hehehe

that is why 9 out of 10 new bussiness adventures in this country fail in the first 5 years. YOU are why. people not paying attention to the fine print. not pinning down the details and what they mean. the simple fact you are spending money to fix something the tenets do not feel needs fixing is another thing i wouldnt display on a forum.

had you talked to them FIRST, it would have gone a long way to greesing the path to replacing the units, mabe even to the point they might have appreciated it, and at the very least, it would have saved you money by realizing they DID NOT WANT new units BEFORE you bought them.

but i guess you thought you knew what was best for them, didnt you?

im sorry for being derogatory, well, no im not, but i have no sympathy for ameture hour in bussiness. it would be one thing if you were a tenet being oppressed by a new landlord, but you went in thinking you know what is best, with every opertunity to see the trouble, and jumped in anyway.

luckily for you, you actually have some hard assets to show for your investment, so it will never be a total loss. hope those new washers go good with the paint in YOUR unit, hehehehe