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#1 Dec 31 2005 at 10:25 AM Rating: Default
does anyone who watched the movie still have a problem understanding why we invaded Iraq, when the person who attacked us was in afganistan?

why the policy of our government has been to creat instability as oposed to making allies in the middle east?

the moral majority, where oil flows thicker than blood.

#2 Dec 31 2005 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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America, f[b][/b]uck yeah!

Sticking it to brown people before America was even a nation.
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#3 Dec 31 2005 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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#4 Dec 31 2005 at 12:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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We went to Syriana expecting a Traffic for oil, but got a weird fat Georgie boy instead. Disappointing. =\ I'd go see something else instead.
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#5 Dec 31 2005 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
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shadowrelm wrote:
does anyone who watched the movie still have a problem understanding why we invaded Iraq, when the person who attacked us was in afganistan?

While I may spend plenty of time crying out "Why? Why go to Iraq?" I know perfectly well why. It's just pathetic and angering.
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I actually liked the movie a lot, although it was slightly hard to follow, and they forced you to make your own connections. I'd see it again.
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#7 Jan 01 2006 at 9:37 AM Rating: Default
yea, the plot was thick. it was a good cloak and dagger type movie. what made it scarier is it was based on actual events.

the whole purpose our government got involved in the middle east was oil. to secure it for our country, and also to deny it to our enemy,s at the time, namely russia and china. the denying part is why WE formed the "freedom fighters" to kick the ruskies out of afganistan. and why WE manipulated which leader had how much controll to make sure china never got a foot hold there.

it was our influence over those leaders that got Osama Bin Ladin kicked out of his own country when he started making a stink about us having our troops there.

the three thousand americans killed on 9-11? this governemnt used them as myrters to get what the U.N. denied us with the first gulf war. mo oil, mo money, mo power.

it was almost artfull the way our sence of outrage and patriotism was "redirected" to a country that posed absolutly no threat to this country or any other at the time.

we were used like an ignorant boitch.

the people who attacked us? ex bussiness partners, both with this country on a national level, and with the Bush familey and other big oil names on a personel level. a token show of force then on to the main coarse, iraq.

Revelations in the Bible never says the false prophets that will lead many god loving people to damnation will be religious leaders.......
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Hypocrisy much?
#9 Jan 02 2006 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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does anyone who watched the movie still have a problem understanding why we invaded Iraq, when the person who attacked us was in afganistan?

I use major motion pictures to form all my opinions on politics as well.


#10 Jan 02 2006 at 7:12 AM Rating: Default
What I don't understand is why we don't just colonize Iraq.

Think of all the great Messopotamian artifacts we're missing out on.
#11 Jan 02 2006 at 9:38 AM Rating: Default
What I don't understand is why we don't just colonize Iraq.

Think of all the great Messopotamian artifacts we're missing out on.
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it has been tried. the british learned the hard way. as much as the majority of the leaders in the middle east are small time thugs, the religion in that reagon has been, and is a formadable obsticle.

the people in that country will keep coming and coming no matter how many you kill. they will not be intimidated. they will not be cowed. they are willing to die for what they believe. something i doubt many americans will do.

there is no way a non-muslim power will ever controll anything much in the middle east for very long.

during the crusades, the english were fighting camel herders. small tribes. no match for their trained armies. but they just kept coming and coming. no matter how many they killed. it was an endless meatgrinder.

the same with the british during their attempts at colonizing there. before the british came, there were no borders. they even abandoned Israel after their attempt to flood it with the wandering jews who were left homeless after WW1. they left for the same reason. an endless meatgrinder.

these lessons are why Bush Sr decided not to go into Iraq with the first gulf war. better to contain a known enemy, than spend untold resources trying to support a political puppet, or worse, suffer an endless meatgrinder with occupation.

they will not stop untill we go. period.

short of genocide, there is no winning in Iraq. only a stopping point. they know it. we know it. the only people who dont know it is YOU, because you idiots hang on to what your leader tells you instead of looking at history to tell us we have been in this before.

so why bother?

syriana.

our oil is running out. the people in power are bought and paid for by big oil. Cheney, Bush, Rice. they do not want alternative fuel, they want mo oil.

as long as oil is the cheif energy fuel, there is a way to controll our enemys like china. we can starve them into bowing to us by denieing them the fuel they need to power their industry.

as long as oil is important, who ever controlls it has da powa.

iraq has the second largest supply of sweet crude on the planet. Saudi Arabia has the first. Saudi Arabia is already our biotch.

and the more supplyes dwindle, and wells dry up, the more power oil wields, the more important controlling it becomes.

welcome to our reasons for being in the middle east.

we are butchering people for power. we are evil. kill a few of us on our soil? means nothing. kill 500,000 people in africa? means nothing. sitting on a huge natural resource? fear us. we will help you. be afraid.

we ARE evil. we ARE immoral. we ARE wrong.

and as long as big bussiness controlls who gets into power, dems and repubs alike, we will remain that way. welcome to the reason the electorial college will not go away.
#12 Jan 02 2006 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
Left wingers are fascists, Right-wingers are oligarchal suits.

No, I don't need a movie/picturebook to spell out the same shi[/u]t the left has been trying to indoctrinate us with ever since Al Gore lost the election.

Here's a fuc[/u]king hint here. Democrats and liberals in general would do themselves and the country a far greater service by painting our leadership as stupid rather than evil. The more you try to convince people that elected authority is evil, the less control people will want to give that government period. If you really want to defend the world from what you percieve as *evil* then pick up a gun and stop being such a pus[/u]sy.

Oh, wait, that's not what this is all about at all. Quit being a fuc[/u]king stooge.

Edited, Mon Jan 2 11:53:48 2006 by Lefein
#13 Jan 04 2006 at 5:57 AM Rating: Good
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Lefein wrote:
Left wingers are fascists, Right-wingers are oligarchal suits.

No, I don't need a movie/picturebook to spell out the same shi[/u]t the left has been trying to indoctrinate us with ever since Al Gore lost the election.

Here's a fuc[/u]king hint here. Democrats and liberals in general would do themselves and the country a far greater service by painting our leadership as stupid rather than evil. The more you try to convince people that elected authority is evil, the less control people will want to give that government period. If you really want to defend the world from what you percieve as *evil* then pick up a gun and stop being such a pus[/u]sy.

Oh, wait, that's not what this is all about at all. Quit being a fuc[/u]king stooge.

Edited, Mon Jan 2 11:53:48 2006 by Lefein


Boy that response wandered all over the place. Please tell me you were drunk when you wrote that.
#14 Jan 04 2006 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Lefein wrote:
The more you try to convince people that elected authority is evil, the less control people will want to give that government period.


******************* keep tellin the people that big goverment is evil. Then maybe they'll stay the **** out of my goddamn business. The only rights that the government should have should involve those that pertain to the Bill of Rights. Stupid implied powers.

Libertarians forever!
#15 Jan 06 2006 at 11:05 AM Rating: Default
The more you try to convince people that elected authority is evil, the less control people will want to give that government period.
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that is the whole point. we elected government so they do not have any power. we have the power. unfortunatly, we have been effectivly nutralized.

we would not have gone to war with the lack of proof we possed warenting it. but our government did. we would not knowingly oppress a people and butcher them for the purpose of securing energy. but our government did.

on a side note, we may very well have ordered the assination of Saddam Hussin, but our government didnt. osama bin laudin too, but our government didnt.

getting the picture yet?

they are elected to represent US. we were not put here to serve THEM.

democracy in this country has been perverted. it needs to be fixed.
#16 Jan 06 2006 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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is that the royal we or some sort of asylum we thing?
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