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#52 Jan 01 2006 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Were we to use quantum states similar to our own mechanics of sentient thought, that is that the manipulation of quantum states though the process of reactionary measurement is the process of a "sentient thought" and forming one sequence of matter rather than another through sentient thought, then it could be concluded that a 'droid' could indeed be one the same intellectual complexity as a human.

Would this be that "breakthrough" in the sci-fi movies wehn the machine becomes aware; once it begins to be able to have an effect on the quantum states that allow us to formulate an objective reality?


In the ending of the movie AI, I was facinated that those robots who were living on the planet 1000s of years later had no knowledge of humans and most likely concidered themselves sentient lifeforms. They only thing they knew about these legendary humans were that they were the "creator".

It makes one wonder if perhaps we could be some kind of mechanical construction to the eyes of some other race that created us, simply for machines. I mean the mechanics are still there. Replace flesh and bone with plastic and sillicon.


The idea of cloning that society is avoiding is interesting too.

Or even if we were to grow humans in labs, would these be like the Replicans of Bladerunner? Would they have rights even thought they technically are not Human?


The line between machine and human doesn't really seem too fine, except that one is organic.
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#53 Jan 05 2006 at 12:09 AM Rating: Decent
Hmmmm all the contrasting ideas, I guess we could say that they won't be the droids we're looking for?


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#54 Jan 05 2006 at 2:47 AM Rating: Decent
Kelvy wrote:
It makes one wonder if perhaps we could be some kind of mechanical construction to the eyes of some other race that created us, simply for machines. I mean the mechanics are still there. Replace flesh and bone with plastic and sillicon.



Sure hope so, I'd like to think alot of things man does are based purely on the hardwiring granted us due to some malevolent master. Otherwise, I sure have been worshipping the wrong motherf[b][/b]ucker.
#55 Jan 05 2006 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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#56 Jan 05 2006 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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It makes one wonder if perhaps we could be some kind of mechanical construction to the eyes of some other race that created us, simply for machines. I mean the mechanics are still there. Replace flesh and bone with plastic and sillicon.



With medical advances this could be more true then one would think. We already have working hearts and lungs that are made of metal and silicon. Give the human race 150 years and sleeping will be as simple as plugging yourself into a socket.
#57 Jan 05 2006 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Give the human race 150 years and sleeping will be as simple as plugging yourself into a socket.


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#58 Jan 05 2006 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Kelvyquayo, Defender of Justice wrote:

Glad I'll be dead.


You sure about that? What with that new enzyme that's supposed to cheat death and all.

Has anyone seen The Island?
#59 Jan 05 2006 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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fenderputy the Shady wrote:
Kelvyquayo, Defender of Justice wrote:

Glad I'll be dead.


You sure about that? What with that new enzyme that's supposed to cheat death and all.






Why would I want to "cheat death"? you're only cheating your soul.


Concider this.

We learn how to sucessfully implement a way to make our bodies immortal; whether by stem cell regrowth, or halting the aging process.
First off, if we can make our bodies like unto cancer cancer is essentially immortal sinse it regenerates it's cells then we have the potential on creating some really hideous abominations the like of which we cannot imagine.

Say for instance we do this, and our bodies can regenerate lost linbs and organs.... Waht if some crazy nuclear or chemical war happened and hideously made everyone grossly deformed through wounds, disease, or some other mutation.... we would be stuck that way wouldn't we? Millions of suffering people who cannot die.... they can only roam the Earth as freaks, begging for death.. yet they won't get it.. It could be Hell on Earth.


I sha'nt even start on the matter of trapping your "soul" into an Earthly shell.
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#60 Jan 05 2006 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good
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Kelvyquayo, Defender of Justice wrote:

Say for instance we do this, and our bodies can regenerate lost linbs and organs.... Waht if some crazy nuclear or chemical war happened and hideously made everyone grossly deformed through wounds, disease, or some other mutation.... we would be stuck that way wouldn't we? Millions of suffering people who cannot die.... they can only roam the Earth as freaks, begging for death.. yet they won't get it.. It could be Hell on Earth.


So. Kinda like Enas Yorl (bonus points for anyone who gets this reference!).
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#61 Jan 05 2006 at 11:52 PM Rating: Decent
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The idea of cloning that society is avoiding is interesting too.

Or even if we were to grow humans in labs, would these be like the Replicans of Bladerunner? Would they have rights even thought they technically are not Human?


As far as I'm concerned, anything that is a sentient creature deserves to be treated with the respect that we treat each other with. I don't think it's a case of being human, it's a case of being able to truly think for yourself.

As for the cloning thing, what of another phenomenon that could be interpreted as nearly the same thing: identical twins. Two individuals that are essentially the same person. While they are the same, they still have slight differences. Would the cloning of a human being produce the same result? What I'm getting at is: if identical people are separated and raised in a different environment... are they still the same? How much will the environment influence a person? An interesting article. If we start churning out clones by the dozen, will they be considered "real" people?

It's going to happen eventually, sanctioned by the law or not. Somebody is going to try and succeed at cloning a human being that will have the longevity of any person. It's an interesting debate, but I believe that the environment has enough influence on a person to make everyone truly unique.
#62 Jan 06 2006 at 3:34 AM Rating: Decent
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