My wife and I were looking forward to spending our first Christmas as a married couple together in Florida, celebrating our love and the joy of the season. Unfortunately, we received a call that her father passed away.
We flew out to California, and are now trying to get everything situated with the house, all the assets, and everything else associated with a trajedy like this. Obviously this is a great burden on my wife, as she has to deal with all this and cope with the death of her father. Here is a short list of things that are not helping the situation:
1. Her father left everything in total chaos. We are trying to track down all his assets vs. debts in order to settle the estate without any records for anything.
2. Trying to setup the funeral during the Christmas season, a time when we can't even contact his primary care practitioner to sign the death certificate.
3. (My favorite, and the reason for this topic) The vultures, the leaches, the filthy dregs of humanity who are trying to worm their way into the house, the money, and everything not welded to the floor. Today alone I've dealt with 13 people making claims on everything from toolboxes in the garage to the silver in the pantry. These people all insist that her father promised them these items, or that these items were loaned to him, and they're simply there to get their property back.
What the fu[b][/b]ck is wrong with people, that they don't even possess the decency to wait for his body to go into the ground before trying to steal everything that he'd amassed during his life? Is my wife not entitled to bury her father without fighting off the grubby paws of greedy chicken-hawks? Has the very concept of decency been so far removed from our society that people feel comfortable trying to rape the memory of a man's entire life, just to get a free toolbox?
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3. (My favorite, and the reason for this topic) The vultures, the leaches, the filthy dregs of humanity who are trying to worm their way into the house, the money, and everything not welded to the floor. Today alone I've dealt with 13 people making claims on everything from toolboxes in the garage to the silver in the pantry. These people all insist that her father promised them these items, or that these items were loaned to him, and they're simply there to get their property back.
That's Christmas spirit for you.
Sheesh. Pretty lame. The good news is that unless those people have some sort of legal documentation that they have claim to those items, they're pretty much SoL. The bad news is that you're going to have a heck of a time figuring out his estate.
And I'm still waiting to hear about that toolbox...
And I'm still waiting to hear about that toolbox...
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And I'm still waiting to hear about that toolbox...
You know, I had my suspicions when the claimant presented a 10,000 word essay along with his verbal claim on the toolbox. Damn you Gbaji, damn you to hell.
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Men have an emotional bond with tools. Especially for men of his generation (assuming he's 70-90). My grandpa was always fiddling with something, working on the car every weekend, etc. So a toolbox could be a very sentimental memento.
Not that it justifies kicking other family members out of the way to get to it.
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Men have an emotional bond with tools. Especially for men of his generation (assuming he's 70-90). My grandpa was always fiddling with something, working on the car every weekend, etc. So a toolbox could be a very sentimental memento.
Not that it justifies kicking other family members out of the way to get to it.
Not that it justifies kicking other family members out of the way to get to it.
These aren't even family members. They're 'friends' of her father.
Sorry for your loss.
It's a great idea to have all your paperwork in order with a will. That hit home for me when a relative of mine died some years ago. He was poor, so it wasn't as big of a deal. But it did get me to thinking, especially since I'm still unmarried, that it would be a pain for my relatives to figure out what I had or owed, whatever. As a result, I made the effort to organize everything in a filing cabinet. It also includes insurance policies and whatnot, so the information will be readily at hand.
It's a great idea to have all your paperwork in order with a will. That hit home for me when a relative of mine died some years ago. He was poor, so it wasn't as big of a deal. But it did get me to thinking, especially since I'm still unmarried, that it would be a pain for my relatives to figure out what I had or owed, whatever. As a result, I made the effort to organize everything in a filing cabinet. It also includes insurance policies and whatnot, so the information will be readily at hand.
Some people are like slinkies, they aren't really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
I don't think most people understand, A will is not for them, it is for the people that you love and leave behind. It's intention is exactly to avoid the kind of stress your wife is going through right now. Tell them to F off and submit their claim for their stuff in writing, if it's really theirs then they can wait a few weeks to get it back until everything is sorted out.
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Sorry to hear about your loss.
How many children did your wife's Dad have?
If you think that the material items and people wanting them is bad, just wait to you get to the retirement fund!Asuuming he had one.
It will take probably 6 months to a year before everything gets sorted out. There are taxes to be paid, liens (if any), debts, etc... all before anyone should start grasping and clawing for items they want.
How many children did your wife's Dad have?
If you think that the material items and people wanting them is bad, just wait to you get to the retirement fund!Asuuming he had one.
It will take probably 6 months to a year before everything gets sorted out. There are taxes to be paid, liens (if any), debts, etc... all before anyone should start grasping and clawing for items they want.
We just recently settled my grandfaters estate. Took a little over 6 months. Good luck Allen.
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My personal opinion is to give all his friends soemthing to remember him by, a memento. Not something of huge value but something they will keep as a reminder of him and they will remember him each time they see it. So giving each of his friends soemthing is not a bad thing, perhaps it is more the way they are going about it.
Edited, Fri Dec 23 10:44:52 2005 by fhrugby
Edited, Fri Dec 23 10:44:52 2005 by fhrugby
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My personal opinion is to give all his friends soemthing to remember him by, a memento. Not something of huge value but something they will keep as a reminder of him and they will remember him each time they see it. So giving each of his friends soemthing is not a bad thing, perhaps it is more the way they are going about it.
Ya, see if you can find one of those silk screening places and have them print up a bunch of:
"My best friend died with all my tools and all I got was this lousy teeshirt" shirts and hand those out at the door.
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ooooh you could even charge $5 a shirt, making it easier if the debt vs asset isn't balanced!
I understand that you're stressed and that your wife is in an iffy frame of mind but hey, it might actually be the guy's toolbox.
You can't ask anyone to place themselves in your shoes unless you explain what those shoes feel like right now. Not everyone has experienced a death, some people may deal with it differently and let's face it, some people just don't think of others. I think you could offer to take charge of this and releive a lot of her stress. Think of a short statement and repeat it ad nauseam to anyone who shows, just in case they're comparing notes. "My father-in-law has yet to be buried and we're still reviewing everything in the house. I hope you understand that we're not ready to address your concern yet. Please submit it in writing, and we'll contact you once we've reached that stage. For now, we would appreciate it if you would give us time to grieve. Thank You." Better yet, post it on the door or pass it out to people asking about him.
I'm sorry this had to happen. It's a terrible time of year to experience a loss, but I'm glad she has you with her.
You can't ask anyone to place themselves in your shoes unless you explain what those shoes feel like right now. Not everyone has experienced a death, some people may deal with it differently and let's face it, some people just don't think of others. I think you could offer to take charge of this and releive a lot of her stress. Think of a short statement and repeat it ad nauseam to anyone who shows, just in case they're comparing notes. "My father-in-law has yet to be buried and we're still reviewing everything in the house. I hope you understand that we're not ready to address your concern yet. Please submit it in writing, and we'll contact you once we've reached that stage. For now, we would appreciate it if you would give us time to grieve. Thank You." Better yet, post it on the door or pass it out to people asking about him.
I'm sorry this had to happen. It's a terrible time of year to experience a loss, but I'm glad she has you with her.
Regardless as to the ownership of the toolbox in question there is a measure of propriety here that is not being given to the grieving family.
Loud noises are known to startle birds into flight; as such I'd recommend the purchase of an air-horn. You should be able to acquire one at an auto parts shop. When the birds circle too close for one's liking, simply lay on the fuc[b][/b]king horn until they either leave or go deaf. (You may also want to invest in earplugs.)
I feel sure they will get the point almost immediately.
Loud noises are known to startle birds into flight; as such I'd recommend the purchase of an air-horn. You should be able to acquire one at an auto parts shop. When the birds circle too close for one's liking, simply lay on the fuc[b][/b]king horn until they either leave or go deaf. (You may also want to invest in earplugs.)
I feel sure they will get the point almost immediately.
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Want me to karma camp them for you?
If by "karma camp" you mean "take potshots with a paintball gun" then I'm sure he'll set up a stand in good cover/concealment for you that has good tactical command of the area.
Depending on his mood/time, he may choose to omit the cover/concealment bit.
English pwns me when trying to sound militarily inclined.
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Sorry to hear that buddy, I hope things start to look a bit better in the coming week.
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One thing that never fails to dissapoint is peoples propensity to dissapoint...bastards. :|
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Regardless as to the ownership of the toolbox in question there is a measure of propriety here that is not being given to the grieving family.
Loud noises are known to startle birds into flight; as such I'd recommend the purchase of an air-horn. You should be able to acquire one at an auto parts shop. When the birds circle too close for one's liking, simply lay on the fuc[b][/b]king horn until they either leave or go deaf. (You may also want to invest in earplugs.)
I feel sure they will get the point almost immediately.
Loud noises are known to startle birds into flight; as such I'd recommend the purchase of an air-horn. You should be able to acquire one at an auto parts shop. When the birds circle too close for one's liking, simply lay on the fuc[b][/b]king horn until they either leave or go deaf. (You may also want to invest in earplugs.)
I feel sure they will get the point almost immediately.
Sure. That'll teach 'em.
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"My father-in-law has yet to be buried and we're still reviewing everything in the house. I hope you understand that we're not ready to address your concern yet. Please submit it in writing, and we'll contact you once we've reached that stage. For now, we would appreciate it if you would give us time to grieve. Thank You."
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