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#1 Dec 17 2005 at 1:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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Unless it's to give an example of blatent GOP hackery.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/17/politics/17abramoff.html?ex=1292475600&en=3b50d674a9e57761&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


WASHINGTON, Dec. 16 - A senior scholar at the Cato Institute, the respected libertarian research organization, has resigned after revelations that he took payments from the lobbyist Jack Abramoff in exchange for writing columns favorable to his clients.


Why, I'm shocked. Shocked, I say, that this sort of thing was going on. I thought they were a bi-partisan libertarin orginization.

Gbaji, I'm sure will be equally shocked and then go on to explain how the same thing happens at liberal think tanks, with no proof, claim the NYT is biased, with no proof, and then write abot 100000 words saying nothing at all. Obviously, with no proof.

/shrug.

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#2 Dec 17 2005 at 2:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Gbaji, I'm sure will [...] write abot 100000 words saying nothing at all. Obviously, with no proof.

If nothing else, I have always been impressed with your ability to do with so many fewer words.
#3 Dec 17 2005 at 3:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well i wouldn't trust him either after that whole O.J. Simpson houseguest incident.
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#4 Dec 17 2005 at 4:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Well i wouldn't trust him either after that whole O.J. Simpson houseguest incident.
Gbaji was involved in the O.J.Simpson houseguest incident Smiley: yikes
#5 Dec 17 2005 at 4:15 AM Rating: Decent
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...took payments from the lobbyist Jack Abramoff in exchange for writing columns favorable to his clients.


Lending yet more legitimacy to my vote for consumer advocacy, Ralph "The Hitman" Nader, and The Green Party back in '00.

Quite possibly, myself and 3.8% of the population were/are high, but it's still a pity we can't trust good men like Doug Pandrow. I mean, besides the dividends, what sort of motivation did he have?

Then again, I like being lied to for a fee. At least when I'm at the clinic, or functioning spasmatically upon a hooker, I do. I'm all torn usunder, inside, I tell you.

#6 Dec 17 2005 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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What was the name of the radio guy that got paid to suck GOP di[b][/b]ck last year?

And the two other columnists that did the same?


Edit: Oh yeah, Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher, and Mike McManus.




Edited, Sat Dec 17 18:26:24 2005 by trickybeck
#7REDACTED, Posted: Dec 19 2005 at 9:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Because we all know the NYT would never fabricate a story the week before a presidential election to make a republican president look bad in a feeble attempt to empower the deomcrat party.
#8 Dec 19 2005 at 10:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Business Week picked up the story as well, for you doubting Pubbies.
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#9 Dec 19 2005 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Because we all know the NYT would never fabricate a story the week before a presidential election to make a republican president look bad in a feeble attempt to empower the deomcrat party.


Yes, damn you independant media!

I'd rather have my fabricated stories bought by the government. Big Brother knows what I need to hear!
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#10 Dec 19 2005 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I knew a guy who works for Google who accepted a nice gift from a customer, which is against company policy.
Guess I should stop using them seeing as how the entire organization must be corrupt.

What a shame.
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I knew a guy who works for Google who accepted a nice gift from a customer, which is against company policy.
Was he in charge of search result rankings and placement?

'Cause then, yeah, I would think it's a problem.
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#12 Dec 19 2005 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Was he in charge of search result rankings and placement?

'Cause then, yeah, I would think it's a problem.


Oh sorry, I didn't know that this guy was the head of everything for CATO. I thought he was just one employee that wrote a couple of articles.

My bad. Smiley: blush
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Point being how much the information you have access to is shown to the public. If your Google guy worked answering the phones or paying the utility bills, I doubt anyone would care if he got a vendor gift. If he works on the search algorithms, people will care more. You didn't specify and I assume the bulk of Google's employees don't have influence over what's presented unlike how a CATO columnist does have access over what CATO presents.

Such a simple concept Smiley: tongue
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As a representative of Google, he does indeed "represent" his customer.

The issue being discrediting an entire organization because of one idiot. Discredit his work, fine, but flowing this to unrelated article/idea/theories because this guy slipped is stupid.
#15REDACTED, Posted: Dec 19 2005 at 1:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yet you libs are convienently ignoring the UCLA study that clearly illustrates the liberal bias in the media.
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Yet you libs are convienently ignoring the UCLA study that clearly illustrates the liberal bias in the media.


They accepted gifts from "Conseratives".
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As a representative of Google, he does indeed "represent" his customer.
But unless it's affecting what I see when I type in www.google.com, I don't care. Brandow's taking money definately affected what people saw from CATO.
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The issue being discrediting an entire organization because of one idiot.
I agree with that. Of course, it hasn't stopped anyone from crying about CBS or CNN over the years Smiley: laugh

I've enough reasons to dismiss CATO without worrying about Brandow.
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#18 Dec 19 2005 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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agree with that. Of course, it hasn't stopped anyone from crying about CBS or CNN over the years

I've enough reasons to dismiss CATO without worrying about Brandow.


The difference being that CNN and CBS has one main voice that conveys what the station wants you to know. CATO has dozens of scholars that write individual pieces. Unless Brandow wrote everything that CATO as an organization wanted you to know, its a tough comparison.
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The difference being that CNN and CBS has one main voice that conveys what the station wants you to know.

Wow, he must be pretty tired broadcasting for 24 hours a day. Is he a robot of some sort?


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The difference being that CNN and CBS has one main voice that conveys what the station wants you to know.
Don't even give me some sh[i][/i]itty made-up story about a guy who works for Google and then say you can't compare CATO's reporting to that of other media organizations! Smiley: mad
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#21 Dec 19 2005 at 2:12 PM Rating: Default
OK, no one's allowed to use NY Times stories either.

http://www.slate.com/id/2082741/

Anyone else want to help me continue this list? I'm pretty sure that when we're all said and done, we won't be able to link to anything and the world will be a better place...really...I swear.
#22 Dec 19 2005 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyone else want to help me continue this list? I'm pretty sure that when we're all said and done, we won't be able to link to anything


Exactly my point.

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Wow, he must be pretty tired broadcasting for 24 hours a day. Is he a robot of some sort?


Yes. Yes he is.
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