Prison...Follow

First off, we're obviously only really hearing the one guy's side of the story, and he's not exactly going to admit if it was more then just providing alchohol to kids and letting them party.

But if his version of events is even vaguely accurate, I think that's a ridiculous amount of jail time. First off, where did the girl come from? Someone just rubbed a genie bottle? Presumably, she's a friend of one or more of the guys there and presumably also agreed to come to this party and consume alchohol. I guess what I'm getting at is that while this particular instance occured with the older guy involved, it's not unlikely that this exact thing wouldn't have occured even if he hadn't.

Let's accept the fact that teenagers are going to obtain alchohol and/or drugs and use them to party. I did it. Everyone I know did it. Probably everone reading this did it. And in most circles, it's "safer" if said party occurs as a result of an older sibling/friend obtaining alchohol for the teenagers and sticking them in a specific location (like someone's home), so that at least they aren't getting drunk in some random location and then wandering around the streets and/or driving while still intoxicated. Having the older sibling provide them with alchohol and a location to safely consume said alchohol is generall better then what they'd likely get into otherwise.


Wasn't there a big deal with those "contacts" between parents and teens a while back? I recall there being a push to encourage parents to provide safe places for teenagers to party, understanding that there would be alchohol, but also understanding that there's be no driving once the kids arrived. Sort of a "don't ask, don't tell" approach, that is pretty darn intelligent and mature. I don't see what this older brother did as any different. He provided a group of kids with alchohol and a safe place to consume it. Should he also be responsible for the actions those teens take while in that location? Sure. In a technical legal sense, yes. But I think there's a whole lot of legal argument that he didn't cause what happened to that girl to happen. Unless he was directly involved in that, then I'm having a hard time seeing it. She chose to go to that party. She chose to drink. She was provided a safe location. The exact choices she made could have ended her up passed out in a back alley behind a rave somewhere, with potentially far worse done to her, then what happened at this party. Can you really hold the adult responsible for that?


I'm just not seeing it. Sure. Maybe a slap on the wrist. Hit him with a misdemeanor "contributing to the deliquency of a minor" charge or something. But 6 years in prison? That's ridiculous...

I hate not defending my old friend here. But the facts are alittle off. I didn't find out until my last post, but i guess there was only Dominic, 2 or 3 other guys, and the girl. So in all fairness, there was no party, just a safe place to drink. And looking at it from both sides, Dominic might not have taken the picture, but he knew damn well it was being done... Still 6 years in prison is overkill. Personally, he sould have just killed her; He might have got less time...

Safe-ish at best, apparently.

You just made my day.

But the law makes very little if any distinction between the two, Gbaji, so it's up to you to treat every 17y.o. like she smells peeish, unless you're Kobe. In the rare case you might not be Kobe, don't expect her mental state to enter the courtroom.

http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2005/1210/local/stories/08local.htm

http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2004/1028/local/stories/10local.htm

Once Again I've Been Assured That There Was Only One Picture Taken.

Judging from the stories, he bought the booze, got the underage girl drunk and personally took multiple photos of her while his brother and buddy helped position her. The first story mentions that, according to police, she was "photographed having sex with males at a summer party while unconscious" but no mention is made of that in the second story so I can't comment there.

Good for them for throwing his *** in jail. Can't say I feel sorry for him in the least.

Edited, Sat Dec 17 14:40:49 2005 by Jophiel

Break!

You don't have to tell me I'm witty!

Because if a cop is hell-bent on getting you to plead, he will get you to plead. Also, the cops might influence the victim to believe certain things happened as well, she was passed out so shes prime to be told anything happened.






I can't believe a person would be so devastated by having their picture taken naked.

Don't put yourself in the line of fire and complain about getting shot, people.

Ahh... the black and white binary Gbaji-world. I've come to know and love it

See, I read that and think "Gee, why didn't she immediately get the police, a lawyer or maybe a tire iron and hunt them all down like a cheap B-Movie?" Then it occurs to me that, at sixteen, she may well have been scared, confused and embarassed. Perhaps she didn't go to the police or whoever because she didn't know what had just happened and felt that when they asked her what her gripe was and she said "I dunno", they'd just throw her out. Perhaps she felt like, since she willing went with them, she'd be told that anything that happened was her own fault. Seeing the photos gave her something concrete to report. Physical evidence that said "I was taken advantage of". In any event, I didn't come to the conclusion that she "apparently had no freaking problem" with waking up in a different house, sans pants.

Ahh... but you. You with your wonderful, wonderful jet and alabaster glasses, who sees that the girl didn't wake up and immediately phone her defense team and the kiddie **** division of the FBI and so concludes she merely twirled her hair around one finger, popped her gum and went "La-de-da" as she skipped home, her *** waving in the breeze.

Damn, it must be sweet.

I am so fu[b][/b]cking hard right now