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#1 Dec 14 2005 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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Lydia Fairchild is the mother of four children.

After DNA testing showed that her children were not hers, Lydia was astonished and brought her case to court.

Lydia's lawyer then heard about another similar case: the other woman's name was Karen Keegan and she needed a kidney transplant. Her three sons offered to be donors, but during the DNA testing required for the possible donation from one of her sons, results showed that Karen was not the mother of two of her sons.

Later, testing showed that Karen was a chimera, a combination of two separate DNA strands.


My Tivo suggested a show about this a few days ago and I was intrigued. This Lydia lady had 2 children and according to DNA testing she was not their mother. Her children were about to be taken from her and put into other homes.

Luckily for her, the hearing was only a few days before the birth of her 3rd child and the judge ordered that someone from the court be there to witness the birth and see that blood samples were taken from mother and child immediately and that DNA testing was done. The tests showed that she was not the mother of the 3rd child either.

Turns out she is a chimera and she actually has 2 sets of DNA in her body. The children were inheriting the DNA that was least common in her body and did not show up in her blood or hair samples.

This is a rare thing and even more rare for someone to show no external signs of being a chimera but it does happen. This is interesting when I think about how much we rely on DNA testing as being 100% accurate.
#2 Dec 14 2005 at 9:16 PM Rating: Good
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The woman that I work with was telling me about this. She saw some show where some of these people who have 2 sets of DNA also look like two different people. One was a case of a baby that had started out as twins, but one twin absorbed the other. The parents were a mixed couple, and the child was white on top and black on bottom. Freaky.

Oh, and yes... two sets of DNA.
#3 Dec 14 2005 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Seems that could really throw a kink into DNA used as evidence.

Does the term come from the mythological Chimera monster (head of a lion, the body of a she-goat, and the tail of a dragon - sometimes it has multiple heads)?
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#4 Dec 14 2005 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
It may have been the same program. They did show a kid like that on this program. It was called I Am My Own Twin. I saw it on Discovery Health but I think TLC shows it too.
#5 Dec 14 2005 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Does the term come from the mythological Chimera monster (head of a lion, the body of a she-goat, and the tail of a dragon - sometimes it has multiple heads)?


Yep, from wikipedia:

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In zoology, a chimera is an animal which has two or more different populations of cells, which are genetically distinct and which originated in different zygotes (fertilized eggs). Chimeras are named after the mythological creature Chimera.


#6 Dec 14 2005 at 9:28 PM Rating: Good
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Very interesting reading. My daughter and I were reading your link and she asked why they did the DNA tests to begin with. I know with the other woman (Karen) she needed a transplant. Did they happen to mention why they had done the testing? (I'm sure I could find it on the net but am too lazy atm)
#7 Dec 14 2005 at 9:31 PM Rating: Decent
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...the child was white on top and black on bottom.



This kid has got it made. So long as he wears long pants he's got none of those pesky social bigotry issues to contend with and he still gets the benefit of having a very happy missus at home with his black bottom half. This may be evolution in practice.
#8 Dec 14 2005 at 9:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Very interesting reading. My daughter and I were reading your link and she asked why they did the DNA tests to begin with. I know with the other woman (Karen) she needed a transplant. Did they happen to mention why they had done the testing? (I'm sure I could find it on the net but am too lazy atm)


I believe it was somehow related to her welfare application. I think they were actually trying to verify who was the father of the children and in the process stumbled on to her supposedly not being the mother.
#9 Dec 14 2005 at 9:37 PM Rating: Decent
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...he still gets the benefit of having a very happy missus at home with his black bottom half


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The question of race and ***** size is controversial, and has not been definitively established. There have been many studies with claims of varying rigor—for example, the LifeStyles condoms study—but they are generally flawed by selection bias. Frantz Fanon covers this subject in some detail in Black Skin, White Masks (1952), where he tends towards the view that the supposed positive correlation between large penises and African ancestry is a myth, a conclusion that he backs up with statistics. On the other hand, J. Philippe Rushton has published statistics claiming otherwise (Race, Evolution, and Behavior: A Life History Perspective, 1995).

Allen's rule and Bergmann's Rule propose that warm-blooded animals (which includes mammals) in warmer climates tend to have a higher surface-area-to-volume ratio, to aid in heat dissipation. The size and thickness of appendages contribute to this ratio.


Being from the southern US, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

I spend way too much time on wikipedia
#10 Dec 14 2005 at 9:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Later, testing showed that Karen was a chimera, a combination of two separate DNA strands.
Burn her! Burn the witch!
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#13 Dec 15 2005 at 12:32 AM Rating: Good
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Saw this on an episode of CSI awhile back. Kind of an interesting topic actually.

The only real implications for DNA is that you can't absolutely rule someone out based on DNA tests. It does not change the reliability for proving someones identity, only the reverse.
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We already have a thread for that.
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