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#1 Dec 13 2005 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/13/child.groom.ap/index.html

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Lisa Clark, who is charged with child molestation, statutory rape and enticing a child for indecent purposes, said in television interviews Monday that she still hopes to make a life with him and their baby.

She said the morality of their relationship was open to debate, noting that in the past it was common for 13-year-old girls to be given in marriage.

"They're making a big deal out of a 15-year-old," she told WAGA-TV in Atlanta. "And I can assure you that he was no victim.


These people sicken me.
#2 Dec 13 2005 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
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They're making a big deal out of a 15-year-old," she told WAGA-TV in Atlanta. "And I can assure you that he was no victim.


Having once been a 15 year old guy, I can also assure people that he likely wasn't a victim.
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#3 Dec 13 2005 at 10:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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You disgust me.
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#4 Dec 13 2005 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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At least the guy will have a story to tell. But I wonder why so many people hate older women with such a passion, something about their bodies getting an odd odor gestating inside them that causes neurological disorders?
#5 Dec 13 2005 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
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He was a victim, she is an ugly *****.
#6 Dec 13 2005 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
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These people sicken me.
Which people?

Kinda helps if you tell us which side of that very thick grey line you're standing.

Generally when it comes to personal relationships it's better not to judge when you have no idea of any of the facts and even then it's fraut with difficulty unless you know the people themselves.

Best of intentions and all that.
#7 Dec 13 2005 at 10:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think she's ugly, but yeah, a bit ******. That lipliner is fairly tragic.
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#8 Dec 13 2005 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Which people?

Kinda helps if you tell us which side of that very thick grey line you're standing.


This recent wave of child molesters, who for whatever reason think it's alright to have relations with people a fraction of their age.
#9 Dec 13 2005 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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She said the morality of their relationship was open to debate, noting that in the past it was common for 13-year-old girls to be given in marriage
Given, being the key word, those poor girls didn't have a choice.

I'm just wondering why a 37 year old woman would even find a 15 year old attractive?Why not go for something a little more legal, like 21?

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"It's not like they are making it out to be. Actually, I'd told him 'no' several times because I prefer someone older, but he was just so nice and so sweet," she said.

Nice & sweet?Try easily manipulable & horny.

Would you want a 37 year old man preying on your 15 year old daughter? There is no grey line. Hang her.




#10 Dec 13 2005 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
I don't think she's ugly, but yeah, a bit ******. That lipliner is fairly tragic.

I noticed the lipliner right off the bat, as well. Nothing says "right on the poverty line" quite like brown lipliner.
#11 Dec 13 2005 at 11:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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A 37-year-old woman who is seven months pregnant by her 15-year-old groom says she prefers older men, but the teenager aggressively wooed her.

That's some iron fu[i][/i]cking resolve there, babe Smiley: dubious
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#12 Dec 13 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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A 37-year-old woman who is seven months pregnant by her 15-year-old groom says she prefers older men, but the teenager aggressively wooed her.

That's some iron fu[i][/i]cking resolve there, babe Smiley: dubious

Must have been. Smiley: laugh
#13 Dec 13 2005 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
If the tables were reversed and it was a 37 year old man, people would be calling for castration. While I think that's a bit harsh, I also abhore double standards.
#14 Dec 13 2005 at 12:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Some would, some wouldn't. I have a friend whose first affair was with a teacher. He subsequently went to jail. She feels horrible about that, and says it was a love affair.

I'm not sure piling that sort of guilt onto teenagers is doing them a great service.

On the other hand, a teacher is in a position of trust, and should be ready and able to withstand the crushes and flirtations of hormonally overloaded kids. If he's The One, and he's that special to you, then what's the problem with waiting until he graduates?
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#15 Dec 13 2005 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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niobia, what hellish country do you live in that has a 21 age of consent? I know you live in the US and there its 18(so why the f[/b]uck did you say 21?), where I live its 14. Legality depends on the location. I don't see why people have a problem with this. It's so f[b]ucking retarded how big a deal people make of small things like this.

Now if the boy was under 14, I'd be sickened. But having been 15 once, I know that if it was me, I wouldn't have considered myself a victim.
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#16 Dec 13 2005 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
niobia wrote:

I'm just wondering why a 37 year old woman would even find a 15 year old attractive?


niobia wrote:
Try easily manipulable & horny.

#17 Dec 13 2005 at 12:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ol' Lisa is kinda scary looking. She has that Franz Mesmer thing goin' on with her eyes. Creeps me out. I can picture her saying to that kid, "You are under my power! You cannot resist me. Take off your pants. Say, 'I do.' You hate your grandmother. When I count to three you will not remember anything we have done here. One... two..."

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#18 Dec 13 2005 at 12:54 PM Rating: Default
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niobia, what hellish country do you live in that has a 21 age of consent? I know you live in the US and there its 18(so why the f[/b]uck did you say 21?), where I live its 14. Legality depends on the location. I don't see why people have a problem with this. It's so f[b]ucking retarded how big a deal people make of small things like this.

Now if the boy was under 14, I'd be sickened. But having been 15 once, I know that if it was me, I wouldn't have considered myself a victim.

I say 21 so at least you can legally take them to bars. at 18 you could get into all sorts of trouble if you provide them with liquer in the USA.

For those of us above 25,a 37 year old finding a 15 year old attractive is a bit freakish . A 15 year old can't hold down a fulltime job legally, can't go to many places on a date (no bars, clubs or R rated movies)

Even if the 37 year old was a male, I'd still find it freakish and wrong. Why prey on teens? Whats wrong with them that they can't get legal adults?


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#19 Dec 13 2005 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
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noiba wrote:
For those of us above 25,a 37 year old finding a 15 year old attractive is a bit freakish . A 15 year old can't hold down a fulltime job legally, can't go to many places on a date (no bars, clubs or R rated movies)

Even if the 37 year old was a male, I'd still find it freakish and wrong. Why prey on teens? Whats wrong with them that they can't get legal adults?


Open up a fashion magazine like Vogue, and you will find that half the models in there will be 15 years old, and they are drop dead gorgeous. If the average straight male over 25 is not attracted to them, then there is something wrong with them.

It is however different to be attracted to a 15 year old, than to actually think it’s a good idea for an over 20, let alone over 35, to actually sleep with one. The young age means it would be a bad idea to get involved with that person, but does not change the persons appeal.

#20 Dec 13 2005 at 1:34 PM Rating: Default
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Open up a fashion magazine like Vogue, and you will find that half the models in there will be 15 years old, and they are drop dead gorgeous. If the average straight male over 25 is not attracted to them, then there is something wrong with them.

It is however different to be attracted to a 15 year old, than to actually think it’s a good idea for an over 20, let alone over 35, to actually sleep with one. The young age means it would be a bad idea to get involved with that person, but does not change the persons appeal.


I don't really find Vogue to be interesting enough to read, they are too full of advertisements.

You still haven't addressed my question as to why someone that is 37 would even consider dating a 15 year old?
#21 Dec 13 2005 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I blame Nabakov and The Police.





Young teacher, the subject
Of schoolgirl fantasy
She wants him so badly
Knows what she wants to be
Inside her there’s longing
This girl’s an open page
Book marking - she’s so close now
This girl is half his age

Don’t stand, don’t stand so
Don’t stand so close to me

Her friends are so jealous
You know how bad girls get
Sometimes it’s not so easy
To be the teacher’s pet
Temptation, frustration
So bad it makes him cry
Wet bus stop, she’s waiting
His car is warm and dry

Don’t stand, don’t stand so
Don’t stand so close to me

Loose talk in the classroom
To hurt they try and try
Strong words in the staffroom
The accusations fly
It’s no use, he sees her
He starts to shake and cough
Just like the old man in
That book by nabakov

Don’t stand, don’t stand so
Don’t stand so close to me

Don’t stand, don’t stand so
Don’t stand so close to me

#22 Dec 13 2005 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
fhrugby wrote:

Open up a fashion magazine like Vogue, and you will find that half the models in there look like a silicone-enhanced pile of bones. If the average straight male over 25 is not attracted to them, then he has not been appropriately brainwashed.


FTFY
#23 Dec 13 2005 at 1:37 PM Rating: Default
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klyia wrote:
fhrugby wrote:

Open up a fashion magazine like Vogue, and you will find that half the models in there look like a silicone-enhanced , heroin injecting piles of bones. If the average straight male over 25 is not attracted to them, then he has not been appropriately brainwashed.


FTFY

you forgot the heroin junkie part....
#24 Dec 13 2005 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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Lol. RACK you, Klyia.

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#25 Dec 13 2005 at 1:53 PM Rating: Decent
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say 21 so at least you can legally take them to bars. at 18 you could get into all sorts of trouble if you provide them with liquer in the USA.

For those of us above 25,a 37 year old finding a 15 year old attractive is a bit freakish . A 15 year old can't hold down a fulltime job legally, can't go to many places on a date (no bars, clubs or R rated movies)

Even if the 37 year old was a male, I'd still find it freakish and wrong. Why prey on teens? Whats wrong with them that they can't get legal adults?
You can go into a bar legally in the uk at 18 and i wouldn't be far wrong if i said 90% of the population is in bars at 16.

Thats beside the point, the point is consent, are you trying to tell me that at 15 you didn't understand what you where doing? I mean really.

Maybe she was a lonely person who didn't go out much, few friends, no local family, her only interaction would have been with that age group, maybe she related to them because of that. Who knows hence my point about not judging until you know the facts.

how can you rape someone who is ASKING you for sex? sure do them for underage sex, but rape? pull the other one.
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Try easily manipulable & horny.
Who was manipulating who though? i know alot of adults who are more vulnarable than the average 15 year old.
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Would you want a 37 year old man preying on your 15 year old daughter? There is no grey line. Hang her.
how about a 15 year old girl preying on a confused 30 year old man in a mid life crisis? still hang him if she did all the chasing?

Black and white is a bad way to go, try looking at the circumstances once in a while.
#26REDACTED, Posted: Dec 13 2005 at 2:07 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) There is no excuse for a 37 year old to prey upon a minor.
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