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#102 Dec 14 2005 at 10:46 AM Rating: Default
Shroom,

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Virus doesn't care, to him the only people in the world who matter are White Christian males between the ages of 18 and 40.


That's the problem I do care. Homosexuality is an abomination that leads to disease and a general decline in human society.

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27. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the DUE PENALTY for their perversion.


People are not born homosexual. God makes it very clear in the verses in Romans that "men ABANDONED natural relations with women!" They did it; the MEN abandoned natural relations. God did not create them that way.

Achileez




#103 Dec 14 2005 at 11:02 AM Rating: Default
Shroom,

Apparently you're public school education has failed you once again. Nowhere in the constitution does it say there should be a separation of church and state.

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If someone is Pro-Choice, it is their right to be that way and to have and support abortions,


What about the rights of the child that's being murdered?

And here I thought liberals were the ones who proclaim to stand up for those to weak to stand up for themselves.

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From what I hear, America is supposed to be a country whose politics are not influenced by religion


You heard wrong. What the founding forefathers were opposed to was a state sponsored religion. This is completely different than politicians bringing their religious beliefs into the offices to which they are elected.

Achileez
#104 Dec 14 2005 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
im a live and let live person. and if soneone wants to make a movie about a couple gay coyboys, well, how is that any worse than teh village people?

not gonna see it.

to each his own. you have guy movies. chick flicks, so now we have *** films.

live and let live. hope it never makes it to tv.
#105 Dec 14 2005 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
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What about the rights of the child that's being murdered?



It's not sentient yet or capable of any thought at the time that a fetus is usually aborted. Logically, and perhaps even at a scientific level, it doesn't have rights as it is not yet considered a living being and as such can not possibly be considered a citizen of any nation which again means it has no rights.
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#106 Dec 14 2005 at 5:39 PM Rating: Default
Shroom,

By the 3rd trimester there is significant brain activity. And many would argue life begins at the point of conception.

Achileez
#107 Dec 14 2005 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
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achileez wrote:
Shroom,

By the 3rd trimester there is significant brain activity. And many would argue life begins at the point of conception.

Achileez


Abortions in the third trimester are extreamly rare. Only about 100 a year in the US. Link. Most people have figured out they want/need an abortion pretty soon. Many might argue that life begins at the point of conception although, they are going to have a hard time every proving that.
#108 Dec 14 2005 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I thought third trimester abortions were illegal..
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#109 Dec 14 2005 at 7:29 PM Rating: Good
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Speaking of unnatural abominations, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Illia for allowing the virus to post his hate speech here again.

Good job. Smiley: disappointed
#110 Dec 14 2005 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
We need two Americas. We can put all the religious fundies and modern conservaives down south where most of them are from anyway and we can keep the rational people up north where it's a little cold but thankfully godless.

Then we nuke the south because they are less than human.
#111 Dec 14 2005 at 11:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Homosexuality is an abomination that leads to disease and a general decline in human society.


Michelangelo? Da Vinci? Caravagio? Alan Turning? Socrates? Have you actually opened a history book? Gays dragged the human race out of the dark ages. Although you clearly indicate yourself to be far beyond the reaches of actual logic and argument with such winning statements as:

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God makes it very clear in the verses in Romans that...


Jesus says nothing on the subject of gays, but he does tell us what to do, and he makes that very clear:

"This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you."

You can look that up. To emphasize it, it's repeated four times in slightly different ways. Apparently you didn't get the message - even though Jesus calls it a commandment. Probably you should follow it.

I'd insult you, but your own words are more damning then anything I could say to you.

Your opinions, achileez, are rapidly becoming extinct in virtually every western society. Perhaps you'd enjoy a theocracy more? Iran, for example, apparently has extremely harsh laws against homosexuality - the minimum penalty is death. In this they are joined by no less then four other stellar paragons of freedom where I'm sure you will find the logical conclusions of your thoughts.

In a way, you have been a reminder that there are people in this world (apparently whole nations of them) who are such cowards that, to them, different is unnatural, ungodly.

This board is a place we all come with widely varying opinions on a vast number of topics. Very rarely is one voice so utterly repugnent as to warrent a banning. You, sir, have that voice. Congradulations - we have a "winner". Were you, achileez, speaking like this against blacks, jews, women or any other segment of the population, I think you would be gone already. In fact, like many, I think you already have come and gone. As it is, I think it is only a matter of time.

Rate all hate speech down. It is not acceptable.

Not even in an assylum.
#112 Dec 15 2005 at 12:22 AM Rating: Default
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Taosaade....that's not even close to being a good solution, I don't believe in god either but at least I dont sit here and say "lets move all the religious people to one spot and nuke them". There are unacceptable extremes on both sides, virus is on the far far right annoying us all with conservative right wing fanatic crap and you are apparently a ****** up little man with a dream of wiping out christianity the same way the ***** tried to wipe out the jewish faith.


F[b][/b]uck off, both of you, virus the Religious Fanatic and Tao the ****.

Edited, Thu Dec 15 00:28:33 2005 by UndeadShroom
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#113 Dec 15 2005 at 7:45 AM Rating: Default
UndeadShroom wrote:
Taosaade....that's not even close to being a good solution, I don't believe in god either but at least I dont sit here and say "lets move all the religious people to one spot and nuke them". There are unacceptable extremes on both sides, virus is on the far far right annoying us all with conservative right wing fanatic crap and you are apparently a ****** up little man with a dream of wiping out christianity the same way the ***** tried to wipe out the jewish faith.


F[b][/b]uck off, both of you, virus the Religious Fanatic and Tao the ****.



The nuking part would just be a bonus. I'd be satisfied with segregation alone.

Heil!
#114REDACTED, Posted: Dec 15 2005 at 10:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yossari,
#115 Dec 15 2005 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
there is even homosexuality in the animal world. genetic variation. every living thing is in a constant state of change. the little tweaks and malformations that take hold and give us some advangage towards our survival become the common, the others that dont, we call handicaps or other dispariging names.

there are boys that naturally develop breats, girls with all the plumbing born with a *****, many many variations in the brain development.

it happens. it will keep happening. just like the varus,s of the world.

we can put up a wall and fight it, dividing ourselves and going against every thing this country stands for, or we can embrace it and accept that the differances in people and what and how they believe can make us stronger as a whole, and move on to mor eimportant subjects.

homosexuality is not an issue.

i cant believe we spend so much time and effort trying to be bigots in this country when really important things go by with a shrug of the sholder, like smoking. why is smoking still legal? it costs hundreds of thousands of lives and tax dollars eveyr year, but we want to thump our chests about homosexuality?

no one can make you gay if you dont want to be gay. a cigarette can kill you weather you smoke or not. what about this countries dependance on oil? drill more wells? how screwed up is that line of thinking?

but lest drive the **** out of this God loving town, shall we?

stupid is as stupid does. why God would have anything to do with this pile of bigoted, selfserving country is beyond me. mabe that is why we are destened to be one of the 7 jewels of the north in the crown of the anticrist during the last war. you think?

better wake up people.
#116 Dec 15 2005 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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I have degrees in both history and philosophy, from a very expensive private college I might add
Considering you've repeatedly proven yourself to be completely full of bulls[b][/b]hit and lies, we should find this impressive how, exactly?
#117 Dec 15 2005 at 10:53 PM Rating: Good
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achileez wrote:
Complete revisionist history. I have degrees in both history and philosophy, from a very expensive private college I might add, and there is absolutely no evidence Michelangelo, Da Vinci, or Socrates was homosexual.


Somoen writing about Da Vinci wrote:
When he was twenty-four years old, Leonardo was arrested, along with several young companions, on the charge of sodomy.


Someone writing about Socrates wrote:
The answer is the philosophy of the Athenian Plato. He has painted a very remarkable picture of his teacher Socrates, who is shown -in Plato's own words- as boy crazy. When Socrates was in the company of beautiful boys, he lost his senses. Some sort of mania (divine madness) took possession of him and he was almost unable to resist it. He often complained about the fact that he was helpless towards adolescents, and said that he could only cope with the situation by asking difficult questions to these beautiful boys and teaching them philosophy.


And finally, someone writing about Michelangelo wrote:
Michelangelo had a reputation for homosexuality among his contemporaries. In a letter to Niccolo Quaratesi he humourously recalls how a father described his son to him in the hopes of the boy becoming the artist's apprentice: "Once you saw him, you'd chase him into bed the minute you got home!"
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In spite of numerous concurrent affairs — at least two, with Perini and Febo [both men] — Michelangelo in 1532 began wooing Tommaso Cavalieri, and even wrote to him:

May I burn if I do not love thee with all my heart,
And lose my soul, if I feel for any other!

Cavalieri was a Roman nobleman, forty years younger than Michelangelo, and a bit fearful of this barbarous sculptor who slept in his boots and rode a mule. Cavalieri was planning on a decent home and family life — he married in 1548 — and he was frightened by the amorous insistence of the older man and the gossip concerning him.

#118REDACTED, Posted: Dec 16 2005 at 10:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Flea,
#119 Dec 16 2005 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
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achileez wrote:
Bullsh[i][/i]it.

Yep, I thought so. Try to remember what game we're playing. You spout nonsense you can't back up and refer to obscure justifications, and then I do the same. Fun for the whole family!
#120REDACTED, Posted: Dec 16 2005 at 1:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Flea,
#121 Dec 16 2005 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Virus, you're the last person who should be ******** about someone not backing up their claims with evidence. Maybe you should give us some evidence of what you say once in a while eh?
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#122REDACTED, Posted: Dec 16 2005 at 2:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Shroom,
#123 Dec 16 2005 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
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achileez wrote:
Shroom,

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Maybe you should give us some evidence of what you say once in a while eh?


You mean like quoting some fictional bed time stories to emphasize the abomination that is homosexuality? I'll keep that in mind.

Achileez
#124REDACTED, Posted: Dec 16 2005 at 2:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Fendy,
#125 Dec 16 2005 at 2:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Apparently you're unaware but 92% of Americans believe in God. Feel free to continue with the atheistic rhetoric; but know that you are in the extreme minority.

Also how do liberal nuts expect to be taken seriously when they callously insult 92% of the population? This is precisely why the Republicans will continue to win elections and the Dems will continue to loose seats in the government.

Achileez


92% of Americans believe in A god. Not necessarily YOUR god. There are jewish people, budhists, hindus, several cults, muslims, and some smaller religions that you've probably never heard of. Closedmindedness(is that even a word?) has no place in modern America.
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Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
#126 Dec 16 2005 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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achileez wrote:
Fendy,

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You mean like quoting some fictional bed time stories to emphasize the abomination that is homosexuality? I'll keep that in mind.


Apparently you're unaware but 92% of Americans believe in God. Feel free to continue with the atheistic rhetoric; but know that you are in the extreme minority.

Also how do liberal nuts expect to be taken seriously when they callously insult 92% of the population? This is precisely why the Republicans will continue to win elections and the Dems will continue to loose seats in the government.

Achileez


You don't actually know what I believe. I fit into probably 50% of the 92% that believes in God. I don't believe the bible to be a literal representation of historical events. I find organized religion to be confusing and contradictory.
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