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#27 Dec 08 2005 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I see what he actually did now but my first reaction would be to go flat on the ground unfortunitely it seems he didn't =/ so yes he deserved exactly what he got and the marshals did their job.


He deserved to get killed for being mentally ill?

Gee, thanks Hitler. Lets just round up the bi-polar people and have them shot to save time.

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#28 Dec 08 2005 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
It's not the marshall's fault he's mentally ill. They have a job to protect the people on that plane. He said he had a bomb, went for said bomb, blam! dead man. Sure, the wife told them he was bipolar but how did they know that she wasnt an accomplice? They didnt know and for the greater good of protecting the other passengers he was shot.
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It's not the marshall's fault he's mentally ill. They have a job to protect the people on that plane. He said he had a bomb, went for said bomb, blam! dead man. Sure, the wife told them he was bipolar but how did they know that she wasnt an accomplice?


Oh I don't know, not being completely fuc[b][/b]king brindead?

He ran OFF the plane, she tells them he's bipolar, but the thought process is what, exactly?

That it's more likely that it was an elaborate ruse by her so he'd have time to run OFF the plane, AWAY from the people, and detonate a bomb?

The air marshal wanted to shoot someone. That's who even considers taking that job. People that want to kill people. Just the way it is. A backpack sized bomb, in the open would have killed one person, the guy carrying it. If he had run ONTO the plane, killing him would make a lot more sense.

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#30 Dec 08 2005 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
Yeah, running away from the plane and running towards the building where there are many more people. Your reasoning is invalid, try again.
#31 Dec 08 2005 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
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He ran OFF the plane, she tells them he's bipolar, but the thought process is what, exactly?


Sadly unless you were there for sure you don't know the timeline of when the wife actually told them he was bi-polar.
Then because most of the U.S is scared s[b][/b]hitless of every shadow and conspiracies are everywhere the Marshal would probably have to decide if the wife was in on it.

Don't you feel safer in this world when there are lots of people with guns running around?

Smash: Get your panties out of your upper-intestines. He wasn't shot for being Bi-polar he was shot because somewhere down the line someone forgot/didn't take their medication. Is it not supposed to be punishable by death? Of course not. Sadly, due to that that lapse, someone paid with their life.

Same thing happens when someone gets hit by a car crossing the street. Doesn't matter if you usually looked both ways before crossing. You F[u][/u]cked up once and that's the end.


FFS. I suck at actually one posting something.

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#32 Dec 08 2005 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Same thing happens when someone gets hit by a car crossing the street. Doesn't matter if you usually looked both ways before crossing. You Fcked up once and that's the end.


Were it ok to intentionally run people over who were standing in the street, that'd be a good analogy.

I'm fairly sure it isn't.

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#33 Dec 08 2005 at 9:12 AM Rating: Good
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We don't really know the details of what happened, but does anyone think this shooting was justified?


Absolutely. Did he deserve to die? Certainly not. He was mentally ill and for whatever reason didn't take his medication. It was a horribly tragic incident. It's very sad that the circumstances led up to this.

However, air marshals are trained to react quickly and accuratly. They shoot to kill. Their reaction time in a real incident may only be fractions of a second. Not only do they have to unholster their gun and kill the person before they set off the bomb but they have to insure they injure as few other people in the process as possible.

The man presented himself as a threat to the other passengers safety. The Air marshals did what they were trained to do to preserve as many lives as they could.
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#34 Dec 08 2005 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
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The man presented himself as a threat to the other passengers safety.


By running AWAY from them?

This was a gross overreaction. Forgivable? Yes. Should the murder be charged? No. Should he still have a job carrying a gun at airports? Also no.

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#35 Dec 08 2005 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Were it ok to intentionally run people over who were standing in the street, that'd be a good analogy.

I'm fairly sure it isn't.


And I'm fairly certain that if a convicted serial killer was loose and a situation came up where a law-enforcement officer had no weapon BUT his car then he'd be called a hero.

Deal with it. Accident happened and death occured.
Why don't you shake your fist in the air the next time you stub your toe and justify the morality of why the chair did it.
#36 Dec 08 2005 at 9:18 AM Rating: Decent
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The man presented himself as a threat to the other passengers safety.

By running AWAY from them?


No Smash, By saying he had a bomb.

I bolded it so you wouldn't miss it this time.
#37 Dec 08 2005 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
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No Smash, By saying he had a bomb.

I bolded it so you wouldn't miss it this time.


Oh, I see. So the idea is to shoot all the people who tell us they have bombs then. Well. I feel safer allready.
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#38 Dec 08 2005 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
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And I'm fairly certain that if a convicted serial killer was loose and a situation came up where a law-enforcement officer had no weapon BUT his car then he'd be called a hero.


You sure know how to compare apples to oranges ...

The point smash was making is that you or I as a standard legal citizen have 0 right to run over someone in the street, law enforcement is different. Throwing into the situation a serial killer in the street is extremely far fetched as well, odds are another citizen is going to be standing in the street getting ran over, not a serial killer. If that situation occurred the officer would not be given praise, they would lose the ability to drive a patrol car and get stuck behind a desk more than likely.
#39 Dec 08 2005 at 9:40 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, I see. So the idea is to shoot all the people who tell us they have bombs then. Well. I feel safer allready.


Um, ya. Any person standing in an area crowded with people claiming he has a bomb in the bag he is reaching into should be stopped as quickly as possible by the nearest law enforcement officer. Is this such an unreasonable concept?
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Um, ya. Any person standing in an area crowded with people claiming he has a bomb in the bag he is reaching into should be stopped as quickly as possible by the nearest law enforcement officer. Is this such an unreasonable concept?


Yes.

For the last 100 years of so the most sucessfull method of stopping such people has been negoiation. Not arbitrarilly killing them.

I've got $100 he wasn't reaching into the backpack untill after they killed him and felt a little silly.

/shrug.

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#41 Dec 08 2005 at 9:52 AM Rating: Good
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For the last 100 years of so the most sucessfull method of stopping such people has been negoiation. Not arbitrarilly killing them.


Do you have a source for that? I can't remember reading too many articles where Isreal successfully negotiated with a suicide bomber but I have seen plenty where they have killed him before he blew up his intended target.
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#42 Dec 08 2005 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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I've got $100 he wasn't reaching into the backpack untill after they killed him and felt a little silly.


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#43 Dec 08 2005 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you have a source for that? I can't remember reading too many articles where Isreal successfully negotiated with a suicide bomber but I have seen plenty where they have killed him before he blew up his intended target.


Were this guy a suicide bomber that would be a more compelling argument.

Also you've seen two, maybe three times the Isrealis have killed a suicide bomber. Probably one, actually, I imagein you just pulled "plenty" out of your *** arbitrarily.

The Isreali's haven't been any more sucessfull than anyone else in stoping suicide bombings. That's why they're building that assanine wall that won't be any more successfull either.



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#44 Dec 08 2005 at 10:17 AM Rating: Decent
Shooting the guy sure stopped him.
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Shooting the guy sure stopped him.


Yup, he'l never say he has a bomb when he doesn't during a manic episode again.

god bless America.

Maybe they should have offed a few innocent bystanders, too. Because then THEY would never be able to blow up airplanes with their non existant bombs either.

Did it occur to any of you stupid motherfuc[b][/b]kers that his backpack HAD TO HAVE BEEN SCREENED BEFORE HE GOT ON THE PLANE?

Just curious.

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#46 Dec 08 2005 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow. Sooo.... how many times a week do you scream you have a bomb in a busy airport terminal and then start running?

I'm guess it's a tuesday ritual?
#47 Dec 08 2005 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow. Sooo.... how many times a week do you scream you have a bomb in a busy airport terminal and then start running?


About as often as anyone has ever said they have a bomb at an airport and actually had one.

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#48 Dec 08 2005 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
We all know that security at most of the airports is laughable. Seeing as he was coming in from an out of state airport makes it that much more likely that he COULD have a bomb.
#49 Dec 08 2005 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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Did it occur to any of you stupid ************* that his backpack HAD TO HAVE BEEN SCREENED BEFORE HE GOT ON THE PLANE?


Screeners miss things. We all know that. What if that backpack didn't go through the screeners, what if it was placed on the plane before the flight? Point is the air marshals don't know, and they have about .04 seconds to make their decision. One thing they do know is that dead people don't set off bombs no matter how they got it.
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#50 Dec 08 2005 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
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One thing they do know is that dead people don't set off bombs no matter how they got it.


Really? I guess it would be impossible to rig up some sort of switch that set the bomb off if you were killed.

I mean that's impossible, right?
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#51 Dec 08 2005 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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Really? I guess it would be impossible to rig up some sort of switch that set the bomb off if you were killed.

I mean that's impossible, right?


He could also rig it up to explode the next time someone calls pizza hut and says "heavy pepperoni". I would think the odds would be better he would rig the bomb up so that he can explode it himself in the place that would resault in the most catastrophic damage. As a matter of fact if I was an air marshall I would stake my life on it.
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