Yeah along those lines of the boy with the butter knife. A friend of mine student teaches and here are a couple of her stories.
Being verbally threatened by a kid to kill her etc.. nothing gets done.
Another kid brings a GI Joe to school, this GI Joe happens to have a gun attached to his hand and the kid almost gets expelled for it.
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Fact is that *both* sides certainly use that fear to push their agenda. The difference is that the Conservative agenda is to focus most of our efforts outside the country, and the Liberal agenda is to focus most of our efforts *inside* the country.
Wow, that's a wonderfull statement. Patently false by an objective measure, but just charming. That the party who's *stated goals* are to lessen civil liberties is the party least likely to actually act on that goal. Charming.
Funny. Show me where the "stated goals" of the Republican party says that they want to lessen civil liberties. Pure Rhetoric.
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Really. Which would you rather have? Soldiers make poor guards and police. That's a simple fact. That's why we have rules limiting their ability to act domestically.
Guess that's why the Justice Department looked into suspending Passe Comitatus. Because they believe in acting abroad instead of domestically, right? Guess that explains their attack on Miranda, and the Patriot Act.
Ah. Yes. Let's ignore the whole matter of degrees. The Justice Department under Bush might "look into" suspending Posse Comitatus. Under a Dem, it would almost certainly have been suspended. The Patriot Act would have "more teeth" if it had been made under a Democrat as well. Miranda would have been tossed out the window by now too.
You are aware it's all the Liberals looking at the 9/11 commission report, you know the one with all the "F"s for homeland security, and blaming Bush for not "doing more to make us safe". What exactly "more" do you think that means.
Don't get me wrong. I think Liberals mean well. Heck. I often think of the Democrats as the "party of good intentions". It's just that they are generally far more willing to set aside protections in our laws designed to limit domestic government power when it suits their needs. And they tend to really take advantage of Liberal's focus on specific "causes" to do so.
And to me, as a conservative, that's incredibly dangerous. If our government is doing things we don't like abroad, we can address that and deal with it. But if our government starts doing things we don't like at home, it's a lot harder to do anything about it.
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That's also why we've seen things like Abu Ghraib (which should just highlight the issue). But remember what the Dems were pushing for all along? They wanted us to expend federal resources to "make us safer" at home. Think. What do you *think* that means? More to the point, if you're using that as a counter to having our troops say in Iraq, then who do you think will be doing the "make us safer" bits?
Are you on crack? Is that it? Arbitrarily making sh[/b]it up really isn't a verry effective rhetorical technique, you know. I realize it's all you have, but still. Cut and paste something from TownHall or something at least, like you ussually do. Oh, I mean rephrase it so that you completely butcher and subvert the meaning of the propaganda in question like allways, because it's great schadenfrunde for the rest of us to se you fu[b]ck up the party line, but at least you'd have some sort of vague factual basis for your pathetic efforts here.
And yet you avoid the question. What do you think is the likely governmental response to all those Liberal groups calling for the government to make us "safer at home"? Is that just rhetoric? If so, then it's invalid as a critisicm of Bush's actions. If it's *not* rhetoric, then it's valid to assume that they do intend some sort of actual federal level action to do just that.
How *do* you make people safer Smash? Sheesh. If you can't counter my statement, then maybe you don't have a leg to stand on arguing the issue.
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The Justice Department under Bush might "look into" suspending Posse Comitatus. Under a Dem, it would almost certainly have been suspended.
Of course it would be. Steak would be taken off menus in resteraunts across the country and replaces with baby, too.
The sky is falling!!! The sky is falling!! Run for the bomb shelter and get out the AK-47 that we use for hunting to keep the poor people away!!! The Democrats are in power!!!
It's stunning how fuc[/b]king oblivious you are to the actions of the [b]people you want to be in power. Just stunning.
It's one thing to have a position I disagree with, like tax cuts help the exonomy, or something. It's another thing to ascribe to the Democrats things that the GOP specifically attempt.
Just makes you look silly really. I sort of pity you to be honest. I can't tell if you're actually rock fuc[b][/b]king stupid enough to belive this stuff or if you're jsut so desperate to disagree with me that you made it up.
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my last year in highschool they did a lockdown drill. they had one of those "secret" announcements over the com saying something stupid. like your school the thing to do was close blinds, lock door and hide in corner of room away fomr the window on the door. at the time our class was in the gym ******** around and we didnt hear ****, didnt even know anything happened till after class. great to know if someone was shooting up the school i'd have a basket ball to defend myself with and my running shorts for a escape measure.
oh, and arbitrary "secret" codes that all fall in the same pattern of "factually member" "location" isnt a very secret way of telling you about a emergency
if you cared "the principal is in the library" is code for "check your e-mail right now" (learned that from 911, e-mail contained instructions on how to tell class)
and "superintendant is in the cafiteria" is code for "someone has a ******* gun and is shooting people! hide! except you jackasses in the gym, have fun running **************
oh, and arbitrary "secret" codes that all fall in the same pattern of "factually member" "location" isnt a very secret way of telling you about a emergency
if you cared "the principal is in the library" is code for "check your e-mail right now" (learned that from 911, e-mail contained instructions on how to tell class)
and "superintendant is in the cafiteria" is code for "someone has a ******* gun and is shooting people! hide! except you jackasses in the gym, have fun running **************
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