SCOTUS hears the case for Military RecruitmentFollow

I'll start by saying that I'm not particularly shook up one way or the other.

That said, the various grants and loans provided by the government are nominally for the good of the American people and students. I don't see why they provide an onus for the universities to provide space for government salespeople. Saying "Well, you get more money because we give out taxpayer money to taxpayers for their education" seems rather far-fetched reasoning to demand university real estate for their booth.

The decision to allow which solicitors on campus should be the choice of the school, not an entitlement claimed by whoever gives aid to the students.

let them.

standing up for your country is nobel. butchering innocent human beings to push the agenda of an immoral addministraition is stupidity.

if, after all that has happened, college kids want to join the service, let them. we will call it just another way to get iddiots off the street, like motorcycles.

When schools stop accepting federal monies, they may do whatever they like to the recruiters. I believe Mills College made the same decision when it was about letting men in. They stopped taking federal monies. Private institutions may ban whatever they feel the need to ban. Public institutions are not so lucky. However, if the students and faculty feel that threatened by it, they should organize. Set up a booth outside the recruiting office, assign shadows to follow recruiters around and counter the arguments. Bob forbid they refrain from litigation to attain their goals.

I'm kind of neutral about it. It seems ridiculous to rule out the enlistment of openly gay people when you are desperately in need of warm bodies, but it also seems silly to take a moralistic stance that seems to have more to do with trying to keep your paying students at school than any real affinity with the GLBT movement.

Under the federal No Child Left Behind Act, schools that receive federal funding are required to release students' contact information to military recruiters unless a student requests in writing that the information be kept private. Schools also are required to provide military recruiters the same access to students as college and employment recruiters receive.

The Portland, ME School Board just voted this week to limit the number of visits by Military Recruiters to seven a year. I doubt if they have put restrictions like these on college recruiters coming to their High Schools. Of course they can just tell them to go away if they get annoying.

My son is a HS Senior. Unfortunately I have little knowledge of what goes on during his school day, but as far as I know he has not "opted out" of having his name released. We've received a bit of "Join the Military" type propaganda in the mail but it gets lost among the stacks of college junk mail he receives daily.

Edit: Remember - i before e, except after c.

Edited, Thu Dec 8 09:45:00 2005 by Elinda

I am sorta baffled why the military really cares so much. If I was at Harvard Law School, or NYU, which are two of the schools mentioned in all of this, I uhm...wouldn't be joining the military. I think I would be more inclined to accept a job at a nice law firm at 150 thousand a year starting salary. Might just be me though. The people that want to be involved in JAG are probably just going off to the recruiters themselves. How much is not getting help from these schools hurting their recruitment?

If you enlist, they will pay back your loans. I do mean enlist though, not get a commission. If I had gone through all that schooling, I'll be damned if I don't get a commission. I do know people though, who enlisted with college degrees just for that reason. They start as specialists instead of privates, but still. You can't go on to be an NCO until you have served a set amount of time.

I knew openly gay people in the military. Military people, as a whole, really don't care that much. It was the military of 20 years ago that would beat the crap out of gay men, not now. There might be isolated incidences, but really, no one cares. Why does the government care so much? The military has always been at the forefront of this sort of thing; they were integrated long before that was the norm. *shrug*

The military has always been at the forefront of this sort of thing; they were integrated long before that was the norm. *shrug*

Um, 1948. Not exactly trailblazers there, allthough they did almost beat professional baseball...