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#1 Dec 06 2005 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
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I'm constantly amazed by how far people take things in the name of religion.

No IE class, now, I assume.

LAWRENCE, Kan. - A college professor whose planned course on creationism and intelligent design was canceled after he derided Christian conservatives said he was beaten by two men along a rural road early Monday.

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University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki said the men referred to the class when they beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their fists, and possibly a metal object, the Lawrence Journal-World reported.

"I didn't know them," Mirecki said of his assailants, "but I'm sure they knew me."

Messages left by the Associated Press on Mirecki's cell phone were not immediately returned.

Sheriff's Lt. Kari Wempe said Mirecki reported the attack just before 7 a.m.

The professor said he confronted the men after they were tailgating his vehicle along a road south of Lawrence. "I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots," he said.

Mirecki planned to offer a spring course called "Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies" after the Kansas Board of Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in science standards for elementary and secondary students.

Last week, Mirecki asked the university to cancel the class after he created a furor by sending an e-mail to a student organization mocking Christian fundamentalists.

Mirecki had referred to religious conservatives as "fundies," and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat face." He has apologized for those comments.


Now I'm sure some of you will claim that we don't know who beat him up, etc ect balhdity blah. Well, I suspect it shore wasn't the Girl Scouts looking for their cookie money. Smiley: dubious What the hell is the point? Does this help your cause at all? Why won't people stop being dumbasses?

Argh. Frustrating day, and dumb news only makes it worse.
#2 Dec 06 2005 at 1:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mirecki is a dipsh[i][/i]it who had a good idea and ruined it with his own zeal and lack of tact. What's worse is he's made it more dfficult now for any other place to approach ID from a philosophical or religious stance as far as academic studies go. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot Smiley: dubious
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#3 Dec 06 2005 at 1:35 PM Rating: Decent
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How absolutely weak of this man. But on to your questions...

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What the hell is the point? Does this help your cause at all? Why won't people stop being dumbasses?


The point was to get their point across that their god is the only god. Ya know, like the Muslims do all the time with bombs and stuff? Works for them, and it obviously work for these men as well. The guy was weak, he backed down. Total bullshi[/b]t.

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Mirecki had referred to religious conservatives as "fundies," and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat face." He has apologized for those comments.


If your gonna thumb your nose at organized religion, fu[b]
cking be a man and stand up to these religious zealots and teach that fu[b][/b]cking class. Don't back down because they used violence as their only weapon, like they have for centuries.
#4 Dec 06 2005 at 1:38 PM Rating: Default
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I think alot of it has to do with humanity not being as developed as we like to think we are. While we have more developed thought process then our ancesters we still have issues with,w hat I believe, is natural instinct. Seeing something different seems to incite a fight or flight type response, normally we can think things through so as not to react in a socially unacceptable manner.

You can see evidence of this on the Asylum or any other close knit social group. While most people have the logic to not beat the hell out of someone for being different there is still some sort of a negative response.

Yes, it is really unacceptable that they beat up this gentleman who was peacefully teaching a topic that is still a little controversial but would have given those who are hardcore about Darwin an opportunity to examine the other side of the coin.
#5 Dec 06 2005 at 1:41 PM Rating: Good
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I suppose I should elaborate. I am disgusted by the entire thing. If all the people concerned were kittens, I'd put them in bags with rocks and haul said bag to the nearest river.

The professor himself, being an academic, would treat the subject as if he held total and unique knowledge of it doesn't surprise me: what surprises me is that people who are in our society as academics, teachers, would rather make waves than educate. He wanted the limelight, and while the consequences of it are not to be condoned, he certainly did court hatred through his actions.

On to the other side: Nothing, nothing, nothing makes me angrier than people who claim to represent God using His name to promote violence and hate, no matter time or place. It's reprehensible, asinine, and a total waste of time. It doesn't win people over to your side, it sure as hell doesn't support your argument, and it won't promote any sort of dialogue or forward movement.

However, I AM starting to understand the urge to kick the bejesus out of someone out of sheer contempt for their thought process, so maybe they did achieve something after all.
#6 Dec 06 2005 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
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So 2 high schoolers beating a guy up gets a thread, but bombing of innocents in the name of Jihad doesn't?

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The professor said he confronted the men after they were tailgating his vehicle along a road south of Lawrence. "I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots," he said.


Well ****...I have got to stop reading posts and replying while on the phone.



Edited, Tue Dec 6 13:51:59 2005 by NephthysWanderer
#7 Dec 06 2005 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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niobia wrote:
You can see evidence of this on the Asylum or any other close knit social group. While most people have the logic to not beat the hell out of someone for being different there is still some sort of a negative response.

You are exhausting. Just the fact that you exist depresses me. Even a dog lets go of the bone occasionally, even if it's just to take a leak on his owner's couch. Can't you drop it? It's a fu[i][/i]cking forum. No one cares about the cliques here. Jesus, woman.
#8 Dec 06 2005 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
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NephhysWanderer the Charming wrote:
I'm sorry, but I am not convinced that they did this because of who he was. Unless they yelled "This is for your email and what you believe in", you can't automatically assume it was a bunch of fundies getting revenge.

I'm constantly amazed by how fast people associate anything evil to the name of religion.


Earlier, I wrote:

Now I'm sure some of you will claim that we don't know who beat him up, etc ect balhdity blah. Well, I suspect it shore wasn't the Girl Scouts looking for their cookie money. Smiley: dubious What the hell is the point? Does this help your cause at all? Why won't people stop being dumbasses?

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NephthysWanderer the Charming wrote:
I'm sorry, but I am not convinced that they did this because of who he was. Unless they yelled "This is for your email and what you believe in", you can't automatically assume it was a bunch of fundies getting revenge.

I'm constantly amazed by how fast people associate anything evil to the name of religion.
University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki said the men referred to the class when they beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their fists, and possibly a metal object, the Lawrence Journal-World reported.
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NephthysWanderer the Charming wrote:
I'm sorry, but I am not convinced that they did this because of who he was. Unless they yelled "This is for your email and what you believe in", you can't automatically assume it was a bunch of fundies getting revenge.

I'm constantly amazed by how fast people associate anything evil to the name of religion.
University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki said the men referred to the class when they beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their fists, and possibly a metal object, the Lawrence Journal-World reported.



Well he was obviously not telling the truth.
#11 Dec 06 2005 at 1:53 PM Rating: Default
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
niobia wrote:
You can see evidence of this on the Asylum or any other close knit social group. While most people have the logic to not beat the hell out of someone for being different there is still some sort of a negative response.

You are exhausting. Just the fact that you exist depresses me. Even a dog lets go of the bone occasionally, even if it's just to take a leak on his owner's couch. Can't you drop it? It's a fu[i][/i]cking forum. No one cares about the cliques here. Jesus, woman.

You're a bit of a space cadet, claro que sÃ? If it makes you uncomfortable, it's because it's true. People are naturally inclined to not react well to something that is different. I believe it is a survival instinct, thankfully we, well most of us, have the logic to think things through and not react in a socially unacceptable negative manner.

feel free to take things out of context & play the victim.

#12 Dec 06 2005 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Well sh[b][/b]it Joph....why you gots to go and do that.

I am still going to go out on a limb and say that he is making this up. No better way to damage your opponent and get more press time.
#13 Dec 06 2005 at 1:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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This reminds me, the U of K never did get back to me after I emailed them asking about a degree in Intelligent Design. Time to follow up!
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#14 Dec 06 2005 at 2:00 PM Rating: Decent
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You can turn the other cheek for only so long until you're sick and tired of socialy accepted bigotry against you and your religion. Maybe Christians are finaly tired of getting kicked around. No more mister nice guy.
#15 Dec 06 2005 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Niboobia, must you pollute these good threads with your foul stench like a 'drive-by fart'?

#16 Dec 06 2005 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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niobia wrote:
You're a bit of a space cadet, claro que sÃ?

Pot? Is that you?

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If it makes you uncomfortable, it's because it's true. People are naturally inclined to not react well to something that is different. I believe it is a survival instinct, thankfully we, well most of us, have the logic to think things through and not react in a socially unacceptable negative manner.

feel free to take things out of context & play the victim.


The only thing that you victimize is my sense of logic, but don't worry, I have tissues for the bleeding. As far as making me uncomfortable, it's nice that your imagination is working, but please, try to leave me out of your fantasies. It makes me vomit a little.

Edited, Tue Dec 6 17:23:38 2005 by Atomicflea
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NephthysWanderer the Charming wrote:
Well sh[b][/b]it Joph....why you gots to go and do that.
'Cause you hated on my Bible story yesterday.

Though then Varrus yelled at you for it. That was pretty cool Smiley: laugh
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#18 Dec 06 2005 at 2:08 PM Rating: Default
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
niobia wrote:
You're a bit of a space cadet, claro que sÃ?

Pot? Is that you?

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If it makes you uncomfortable, it's because it's true. People are naturally inclined to not react well to something that is different. I believe it is a survival instinct, thankfully we, well most of us, have the logic to think things through and not react in a socially unacceptable negative manner.

feel free to take things out of context & play the victim.


The only thing that you victimize is sense of logic, but don't worry, I have tissues for the bleeding. As far as making me uncomfortable, it's nice that your imagination is working, but please, try to leave me out of your fantasies. It makes me vomit a little.

maybe if I imagine a little more, you can be the next subway commercial star. mas vomitar, panzone.
#19 Dec 06 2005 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
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What are you on exactly???
#20 Dec 06 2005 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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'Cause you hated on my Bible story yesterday.

Though then Varrus yelled at you for it. That was pretty cool

Ok, ok, even. that was pretty damn funny. funnier because he had done the same thing like 2 minutes before.

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maybe if I imagine a little more, you can be the next subway commercial star. mas vomitar, panzone.


Sweet Jesus. That was stupider than anything Elinda has ever posted.

Just stop.

PS, can you repost the pic with the bewbies? Thanks.
#21 Dec 06 2005 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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If it makes you uncomfortable, it's because it's true. People are naturally inclined to not react well to something that is different.


Something different? Oh we've seen plenty of your kind in here before. The diference is you're at the bottom of the barrel.
#22 Dec 06 2005 at 2:12 PM Rating: Default
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lack of cigs, I'd probably lurk more if I had more cigs. and coffee, I'm out of that too. Did I mention you're a fu[b][/b]cking salad tossing, buttkissing, karma wh0re? Have a good day, nepys mom said Thanks!
#23 Dec 06 2005 at 2:13 PM Rating: Default
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NephthysWanderer the Charming wrote:
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'Cause you hated on my Bible story yesterday.

Though then Varrus yelled at you for it. That was pretty cool



PS, can you repost the pic with the bewbies? Thanks.

THATS what I asked you. how the hell are you gonna talk about bewbs and not post pics? Is your crush on katie making you ***** or what?
#24 Dec 06 2005 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Noobia why don't you go eat your checkers?
#25 Dec 06 2005 at 2:23 PM Rating: Default
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MentalFrog wrote:
Noobia why don't you go eat your checkers?

Show me the boob photos and I will go away =^-^=
#26 Dec 06 2005 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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You first.
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