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What's the political word from the Great White North? Lots of stories about how the Liberal government was "Toppled" or "collapsed" as if there was rioting in the streets (I blame the liberal media bias myself) but a thread on another board suggests the real end result will be pretty much status quo and the Liberal party will probably retain the most seats albeit it with a slimmer margin.

Any exciting news? Is it time yet for the U.S. to send in "peacekeepers" and restore order?

I knew Undeadshroom was Bohdi's sock!!


BUSTeD!

Thread on SDMB. Some may find it interesting. Or not.

So there's a whole government up there. Who'd have guessed it?

Couple weeks ago? It was when I had the tinfoil hat avatar.

Forgive me but there is no simple way to break this down.

Old Liberal govt under Chretien was pretty corrupt. There was a movement within the party that ousted Chretien and most of his crew.

The opposition parties have been hammering away at liberal corruption in order to erode party support. Ending in a liberal minority gov't being elected. The conservatives and bloc quebecois (PQ) have been trying since day one to topple it with a no convidence vote.

The NDP (left socialists) have the key to the balance of power. With their votes the Liberals have a majority. So they use this bargaining position to get some of their initiatives pushed through.

Now everything centers around the Gomery report and the sponsorship scandal. Basically during the 1995 referendum the chretien govt dumped millions of dollars into federal/liberal friendly add firms to help stop the quebec move to seperate from canada (which ended up being as close as you can get 1% difference leave/stay). Gomery has found that the new Prime Minister had no knowledge or participation in the whole thing.

Now the opposition Conservatives and PQ find it in there best interest to push an election while the gomery report was fresh in the publics mind. The Liberals promised a february/march election when the second part of the gomery report is released. The key was the NDP. The NDP tried to use this to push through more of there platform.

This is where the pure genius of the Liberal political machine came into play. They denied the NDP, which caused the NDP to finally side with the Conservatives and the PQ and force an holiday election that Canada does not want. The liberals push through a lot of spending that the public absolutely adores and that unless re-elected stands no chance of going through.

The liberals will distance themselves from the old regime. They will state the eight years of budget surpluses, the national daycare system, massive effort in equalizing quality of life for aboriginal canadians, commitment to work with municipalities etc.

They will then attack on two fronts. The main opposition is the conservative party. The fact is that the conservative party doesnt match up with what a lot of canadians want from their govt. They want to privatize health care, cut corporate tax and slash social spending, end gay marriage and pretty much do whatever Bush asks. They will emphasize this and also the partnership of the Conservatives and the Seperatists PQ.

They will also attack the NDP because they fear losing leftist votes to the NDP, fragmenting the left and causing the conservatives to take a minority govt. So they will play on the same message the democrats did with Nader, votes for them will hurt you over all etc.

So the liberal govt has pushed the opposition into the holiday election that canadians didnt want. Also the carrot and the stick of social spending that the majority of canadians love but will be ripped away if conservatives get in. Either way it will be a minority govt. Its up to canadians to decide whether it is Liberal or Conservative. I pray to the sweet lord it is liberal but the anti liberal sentiment is pretty high.

Edited to add - No wide spread anarchy (canadian anarchy entails bumping into someone and not apologizing profusely) or rioting in the streets (which would involve someone getting jersyied). More of apathy and contempt at political manuevering and name calling. Also ****** at having to go vote on January 23rd. That is gonna be facking cold as hell.

Edited, Tue Nov 29 12:17:11 2005 by bodhisattva

As long as they still kiss our ***, who really cares? I'm just pissed I have to listen to that Bob awful anthem at hockey & Blue Jays games.

Let's not ruin a good burn with the facts, M'kay?

In response to what Bhodi said about me, I didn't ratebot myself up to scholar, a guy a trurned on and have rescholared named weedjedi did it as well as a couple of random people from other forums, and a still unknown contributor in the asylum. Second, Abbay was from Ontario? *shiver* I will make it my duty to find out where and then proceed to egg Abbay.
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If the conservatives get into power in Canada...I don't want ot think of what will happen.

Edited, Sat Dec 10 02:25:22 2005 by UndeadShroom

Most of America doesn't like liberals. Why should our leader be any different? :)

No-confidence votes...separatists...I've got a bad feeling about this!