C.S. Lewis and NarniaFollow

Ahh. You can understand my confusion then. Most people actually present an opinion when they present an opinion. People looking to invite informative responses typically use a question.

Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing and nothing. All I have to go by is your posts.

How can I keep my expired "cliche's" to myself when they are so much more effective with the stench of rotting, fettid decay?

i really dont want to argue, i just dont appreciate being stereotyped

Edited, Tue Nov 29 12:25:25 2005 by yohme

There's an easy way around that, you know. Add something more than "Huh?", "Not again" and "I don't get it". Don't waste the time of the reader and the reader may not feel motivated enough about you to post something derogatory in response.

Of course, that only works in theory. Some of me will probably flame you anyway on principle, as you've shown it to be effective in getting under your skin. But that's just me. The rest of these f'uckers are kittens.

The second two, Perilandra and That Hidious Strength (the latter more so than the former), really delve in to the removal of spirituality from society, and focus on the rise of analytics as the prevailing ethos. I think they do it in a more substantial manner than The Celestine Prophecy did. Lewis definitely didn't sugar coat his feelings on the matter. I can only guess you haven't gotten too far in to the book yet, but if you think you are agitated now, the treatment of Weston later in the book will probably really irritate you. I would recommend you read the entire series, if for nothing else so that you at least get the whole picture he tried to paint.

EDIT: for clarity.

Edited, Tue Nov 29 12:37:40 2005 by MoebiusLord

Actually at the time Lewis wrote LW&W, his telling of the hero myth (Aslan's sacrificial death and resurrection) was just that: the classic hero myth that spans many, many cultures. He originally saw the Passion as a relatively modern re-telling of the classic hero myth until his conversion to Christianity (or back to Christianity, if you prefer), influenced by his friend Tolkien among others.

His interpretation shifted at that point, and he came to believe that all the hero myths that had come before were preparatory in nature - priming the pump, as it were, to help people of all cultures accept and believe in the divinity of Christ.

He was an interesting and complex man.

As far as overt Christianity in fiction goes, LW&W is good times. What was that end times book popular about ten years ago? This Present Darkness or something? God, that book was like a 200 page Chick tract but without the half-assed drawings. And I read it during a time in my life when I was considerably more devout than I am today.

This Coming Darkness was more end times than Present was. I, too, was a much more "faithful" person when I read those. They would make sort of cool "Constantine"-esque movies too one of these days.

I enjoyed the Narnia books quite a lot when I was a kid, and I'm looking forward to the movie.



I agree. I think if he were to see what the end product might look like today he might have had an entirely different opinion. Though one could argue about keeping the purity of the books intact all day, you always run the risk of the hard-core fans not liking the movie version. The sad fact is, there are many people out there who just wouldn't be exposed to the story otherwise. Many people just don't take the time to read a good book anymore.

When I first heard of the project, I wondered why on Earth they would try to make Lord of the Rings live action instead of animated. Then I saw the flims and I think they are nearly the best of both worlds. It would have been rough to capture the performance of Ian McKellen with animation, and perhaps they would have hired live actors anyways to capture and animate with, as they did with Golum. Further, it would have been prohibitavely expensive to recreate the battles with all live actors.

Lewis wrote explicitly against a TV version and I'm sure a current TV miniseries of the book would not be so great - they simply don't have the time and budget - but it could be better then perhaps a good film was back in the 1950's (in terms of the special effects - not the acting). A TV show back then would have probably been farcical.

Kids can watch Ice Pirates (shudder) and enjoy it. Since it's a story for children, I appreciate that they are trying to make a really good version that I won't mind sitting through. I hope it turns out to be a great movie.

Anyone else read Lloyd Alexander's Black Cauldron (Prydain chronicles series)? As I recall, they were great, and thus could be great movies, but I was really young so...

What clueless journalist surmised that because Lewis opposed a live action lion, he would have disdain for the CGI version?


That's an equally stupid reverse-logic of the people who say that animated **** is stupid because "it's just a bunch of pixels."

I blame CNN. It's always their fault.

I can type slower maybe???? Let me try again. CGI stucked now it doesn't. *sits and watches animated *****