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#1 Nov 27 2005 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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So I know these things are all the rage, and I won't deny how handy they are, but my ipod is driving me nuts. We use my ipod with the little speaker attachment to play a mix during parties and such at our house (the speaker attachment is surprisingly powerful). It works great, up until my ipod inevitably freezes up, from overheating, I'd wager. It literally happens about 1/3 of the time. After mine freezes, we usually fall back on one of my friend's ipods, but sometimes they freeze up as well. It's very irritating and awkward when you're hosting a big party, then all of a sudden the music just dies.

I have one of the earlier versions of the ipod, and I feel like maybe they were rushed to market a bit too quick to avoid these kinds bugs. The fact that this thing doesn't even have a power/reset button is absurdly stupid, and just exacerbates any problem.

So has anyone had any similar problems with them? Or has the technology improved a bit as far as reliability goes since their release? I'm also curious if anyone uses an alternative to the ipod, and if they're any better or worse.


+10 points for using the word "exacerbate"
#2 Nov 27 2005 at 12:24 PM Rating: Good
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Doesn't anyone use a real stereo anymore?
#3 Nov 27 2005 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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+10 points for using the word "exacerbate"


Grats?

What an odd thing to point out...

#4 Nov 27 2005 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good


We do! Although I -do- want an Ipod nano, just to have. My husband points out that we would never use it and it is therefore a waste of money, but they are awfully cute.

#5 Nov 27 2005 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
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The nano doesn't quite cut it as far as space goes for my purposes. I keep a lot of my friends' music on my ipod, since they like to hear their stuff come on during parties, too. So I've got a pretty large amount of music on mine.

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Doesn't anyone use a real stereo anymore?


Yeah I might break out my dad's old vinyl stuff. It was reliable, at least. I'm at verge of contemplating thinking about perhaps considering maybe writing an angry letter to Apple about this damned thing. I'm quick to take action like that.
#6 Nov 27 2005 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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I'm also curious if anyone uses an alternative to the ipod

Creative Zen Micro is a LOT like the Ipod except you arn't confined to JUST the ITunes store (though I'll assume you get your music by other means anyway ~_^).

Also, other then taking a little while to "rebuild the library" right after upload or when it's been powered down for a LONG time - I have never had it overheat. It comes in 4, 5 and 6GB.

I have the 5GB and it advertises holding 2500 songs but I was only able to push it to about 800ish though I do have some long songs and comedy routines on it so...=/

You can build playlists in it and it has a "DJ" function where you can tell it to play most popular songs (like what you listen to most), rarely heard songs, etc.

Anyway, if you don't want an Ipod then It's a pretty good alternative.

O, also it has built in FM radio and uses the head phones as an antenna.

O.o wow that's a weird word "an-tenn-a" "Annnnn-taaaan-aaa" say it a few times. It just doesn't sound right...
#7 Nov 27 2005 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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I still use a stereo. But I want an iPod for my own use when I go walking or I'm at work.
#8 Nov 27 2005 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I have one of the new fifth generation (video) iPod's. Overall, I like it a lot. I only got the 30 gigabyte one and am not even close to filling the harddrive.

I don't have any of the attachments yet, but I do plan on buying the little hookup thing that allows you to play your music through a radio. The only disappointing thing is the battery life. I leave the backlight off because the battery dies too fast with it on. Also, if anyone was considering buying one for the video feature, I recommend passing. With the backlight on in movie mode, the battery dies after about 2 hours.

Other than that, no complaints....yet.

I do regret not shopping around a bit more for other mp3 player brands.
#9 Nov 27 2005 at 5:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a Creative Zen Micro and I just love it!

I have the 5GB version and I have no complaints about it. Like Pandorra said - it's got a built in FM radio and it also has a voice recorder. It can also be used as a removeable storage device and it can sync with Outlook.

It can also be used with various subscription music services - if you are so inclined.

One of the best things about it though is that it has a removeable, replaceable battery. Smiley: grin

I like it so much better than an Ipod.
#10 Nov 27 2005 at 5:12 PM Rating: Good
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I have the 5GB and it advertises holding 2500 songs but I was only able to push it to about 800ish though I do have some long songs and comedy routines on it so...=/


Hmm...that's still quite a difference between the advertised amount and the actual! I suppose the overheating that my ipod does has something to do with the connection between it and the speaker attachment, so I guess it's tough to say whether another version would have any more success.


One of my roommates just got a new cell phone, and apparently it can play mp3's as well. With the rate at which they keep combining and miniaturizing these products, maybe it'd just be more cost-effective to wait until they make a combined pocket phone/mp3 player/pda/web browser/radio/camera/walkie-talkie/tv/dvd player, heh.
#11 Nov 27 2005 at 6:16 PM Rating: Good
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It can also be used with various subscription music services - if you are so inclined.

One of the best things about it though is that it has a removeable, replaceable battery.

Yeah ^-^ other then songs not legally avaliable within the US or through import - I use yahoo music unlimited which works like a dream!

The replaceable battery is awesome! I use it for classes when our professor decides to drone on and at work when I have to roll like, a ton of silverware (waitress) so I tend to run through them fast enough (the battery life is actually not to shabby but all my professors drone on a lot =P lol - though like most Mp3 players, the backlight cuts the life down quite a bit =/ but you can normally see the screen pretty easily even in low lighting so it's not really needed all to often)

Edited, Sun Nov 27 18:28:15 2005 by Pandorra
#12 Nov 27 2005 at 6:51 PM Rating: Good
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The fact that this thing doesn't even have a power/reset button is absurdly stupid, and just exacerbates any problem.


If you read the owner's manual you will see that by pressing and holding the menu and play/pause buttons simultaneously that it resets the ipod. This still might not help you, but it is a reset.

I have the 2nd gen i think so mine doesnt freeze, but i have horrible battery life. Mine sucks because if you run it till the battery is gone and charge it up again it will reset all of your settings to default.
#13 Nov 27 2005 at 7:02 PM Rating: Good
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I have the click wheel 20GB iPod. (no color)

Every once in awhile my iPod starts acting up, freezing in the middle of the songs, etc, and when I try to restart it, it just gives me the folder symbol, and my computer refuses to recognize it, even if the iPod is in disc mode.

Awhile ago, I could not get it out of this, and got it replaced (warranty could not cover it), but not before the tech gave me grief about the tiny indentations on the back, saying that they damaged the hard drive and that it would take one hell of an impact to cause that. Fortunately, they still replaced it. I also got the AppleCare plan to extend my warranty, as I had only had the old one for six months before it became unusable.

So, about a month ago, with my replaced iPod, I got the same problem. Songs started freezing in the middle, skipping, and when resetted, I got the ugly, ugly, folder symbol. And, of course, my computer refused to recognize it, so I couldn't restore it.

I called up tech support (it was a ***** finding the number to call, believe me, after scouring the website for about 10 minutes, I gave up, spent another 15 mins digging out my AppleCare box, which had the number printed on it) and after some debate with the tech guy, describing of issues, attempts to reset my iPod, etc., I told him that I have USB 1.0 instead of 2.0 in my comp, and the guy told me that that was what caused the problem.

Bulls[b][/b]hit. I had used the iPod with 1.0 the entire time, and the USB itself never caused any problems whatsoever. And, if I remember correctly, the only difference from 1.0 to 2.0 is that there is a speed increase. (correct me if I'm wrong) I sighed, hung up the phone, and proceeded to reset my iPod continuously for about 20 mins, which eventually got it to work just fine again. Don't ask me why, I have no idea.

Just a random rant to get off my chest, glad to see I'm not the only one having problems with iPod.
#14 Nov 27 2005 at 8:26 PM Rating: Good
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If you read the owner's manual you will see that by pressing and holding the menu and play/pause buttons simultaneously that it resets the ipod. This still might not help you, but it is a reset.


Well, now I feel dumb, heh. That'll teach me to stop just skimming over those things. That'll solve a few problems that I've had, at least. Thanks for mentioning it!

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Every once in awhile my iPod starts acting up, freezing in the middle of the songs, etc, and when I try to restart it, it just gives me the folder symbol, and my computer refuses to recognize it, even if the iPod is in disc mode.


Yipes. Hopefully I won't run into those issues. I have had the skipping songs problem, though, where suddenly the ipod begins skipping through the playlist, going from song to song without actually playing anything. And of course, you can't stop it. Hopefully the reset function will take care of that one.
#15 Nov 28 2005 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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You could pick up a $5 desktop fan and point it at the ipod when you're letting it run for extended periods. Also do not leave it on a soft surface like a couch as that tends to hold the heat in.
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#16 Nov 28 2005 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
I have the 2nd (or 3rd) Generation iPod. The 15 GB that they don't produce anymore. I have had it playing (through boombox) at work 8 hours a day 5 days a week for 1.5 years. It has never frozen on me. It is plugged in and charging at all times of course the battery only lasts an hour when not plugged into a charger
#17 Nov 28 2005 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a 2nd Gen iPod mini (silver, if you care). It has never overheated or locked up. There used to be a bug involving fast-forwarding but they fixed that in one of the updates. As a matter of fact, the ipod is always cold to the touch. I've run it for 8-10 hours non-stop before with no issues. I do leave it on a hard surface and not a surface that will hold heat, so that could help. Only once have I had a problem with the computer not recognizing the iPod. I just unplugged it and plugged it back in and the problem went away.

I highly recomend the mini. I have the 4GB version and put a few days worth of audio books on it at a time. Sucks that you guys have ahd problems with them though.
#18 Nov 28 2005 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
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And this is for Sora...

High Capacity iPod Replacement Batteries

Thinking about buying one myself, it is suposed to increase my playtime to 27 hours from 18. That'd be great.
#19 Nov 28 2005 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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And this is for Sora...

High Capacity iPod Replacement Batteries

Thinking about buying one myself, it is suposed to increase my playtime to 27 hours from 18. That'd be great.


Good fu[b][/b]cking find mi amigo! I will probably order it some time today. You know of any success/failure stories using this product? Any tips or tricks?
#20 Nov 28 2005 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
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I wish I did. I saw it on engadget or somthing two days ago while looking for the single usb port portable charger thing that fits in an altoids tin.

Somthing like this

I'm thinking that you could find a way to pack two of those 2200mAh batteries into some kind of container and use it with 4 or 2 USB ports. You'd need to integrate a charger circuit of some sort.

Be nice to get 2200mAh in series or 4400mAh in parallel. Apparently that would be 99 to 198 hours (depending on design) for the iPod mini. Unless the numbers are based on 1st gen iPod minis then you would get 44 to 88. I need to look at the spec sheets and see what the voltages are and all that. If the batteries provide 5v then it would be a great little project.

I'll be doing research into all of this over the next few days.

Edit: I'm no electrical engineer but I read the article and the batteries provide 3.7v so they would need to be put in series and voltage regulated to 5v for the thing to work. What this would do to the mAh overall I cannot say. I'll ask an EE buddy of mine later what he thinks.

Edited, Mon Nov 28 09:31:54 2005 by AngryUndead
#21 Nov 28 2005 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
I have a 3'rd generation click wheel Ipod (10GB that isn't made anymore). I had a bunch of problems with mine for a while. The battery would drain REALLLLLY fast, I am talking an hour of playtime with no backlight on. The only option I was using was the EQ (which apparently uses a lot of battery).

One of the solutions I found to the battery problem was a little factoid I dug up on the Apple site. According to them you really should make sure all the songs on your Ipod are encoded at 128kbps size. They claim that this is the target size for the buffering scheme they use. If the files are encoded at a larger rate, the Ipod needs to buffer more and eats more battery.

The problem is, people encode things at all kinds of different rates. I used to rip my own stuff to 192kbps. There was no way I was gonna re-encode my entire library just to put it on my Ipod. Then I came across this nifty program

http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/

Anapod Explorer functions just like windows explorer does. It shows you all the folders and subfolders within your Ipod. The other useful function was one they call Audiomorph. With Audiomorph you can set it up so that when you transfer files, no matter what KBPS they are encoded at it will (if it needs to) re-encode them on the fly to 128kbps. Needless to say this helped my battery life a bit.

As for the freeze ups you are having... this might play a part in the problem. You can always install your own hard drive in them yourself. www.ipodlounge.com has plenty of posts on how to do it. You can also change the battery yourself. It is very easy. I did my own in 10 minutes. The whole thing about the battery not being replaceable is a LIE. Anyone who can use a screwdriver can do it.

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