i find this rather funny... i just "learned" in school by my obviously republican government teacher that republicans are "normally" smarter then democrats.... hmmm...
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that's odd... kinda contradicts that whole concept
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What did he mean by "smarter"? Did he mean IQ, or more education?
Those with only a high school diploma tend to be Dems. Those with 4 year degrees tend to be Republican. What is interesting, however, is that those who further their education with masters degrees or PHD's tend to be Dems. *shrug*
Teachers, like anyone else, can be biased. Sounds like yours is. Plus, anyone who agrees with him/her must be right, see?
You don't want teachers preaching politics to you. Could be worse, though. You could be getting browbeat with Christianity and being told Christians are normally smarter than Democrats...
You don't want teachers preaching politics to you. Could be worse, though. You could be getting browbeat with Christianity and being told Christians are normally smarter than Democrats...
I'm not sure if he meant IQ or college educated by smarted... It's also I trend I've seen at my school over the past 5 years that almost every history/government teacher I've had has been an over patriotic republican...
Hmm. That is really strange, because at the college level, I have yet to come across a political science or history professor that wasn't a raging liberal, and I am attending a university that is on more than one list for being highly conservative *sigh*. Maybe it is just further validation of the comment I made earlier about education.
Edit: Heh, that reminded me of this history teacher I had in high school. He was a quite conservative fellow, and would rant endlessly about how Clinton needed to be impeached. Keeping in mind that I am from Mississippi, he decided that all history textbooks are biast about the civil war, and that he was going to teach us out of a different book. He went on and on about Abe Lincoln being evil, and the war being all about tariffs and not slavery. Anyway, that non-biased book? It was called "The South Was Right." I loved to poke him, and of course I pointed this out. Oh well.
Edited, Sat Nov 26 18:29:54 2005 by Katarine
Ya know what I find funny? The people who made that spelled "Missouri" wrong. I guess the fact Missouri was a close race though supports the fact democrats are smarter because its rather high in the red-state list.
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It wasn't about slavery, at least to begin with. Many people didn't support slavery but it wasn't to the point that they cared enough about slaves that they would carry out a war for it.
Edited, Sat Nov 26 20:35:08 2005 by BurningJ
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Heh, that reminded me of this history teacher I had in high school. He was a quite conservative fellow, and would rant endlessly about how Clinton needed to be impeached. Keeping in mind that I am from Mississippi, he decided that all history textbooks are biast about the civil war, and that he was going to teach us out of a different book. He went on and on about Abe Lincoln being evil, and the war being all about tariffs and not slavery. Anyway, that non-biased book? It was called "The South Was Right." I loved to poke him, and of course I pointed this out. Oh well.
It wasn't about slavery, at least to begin with. Many people didn't support slavery but it wasn't to the point that they cared enough about slaves that they would carry out a war for it.
Edited, Sat Nov 26 20:35:08 2005 by BurningJ
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It wasn't about slavery, at least to begin with.
I would say that the south was angry about the tariffs imposed, but that they were aware that slavery was necessary for their economy to continue. I suppose that I should have worded it differently - the history teacher I was talking about said the war wasn't about slavery at all, that it was -all- about tariffs, which I believe is grossly inaccurate.
The war was about a lot of things. Slavery was one of those things. It wasn't the biggest or the smallest thing on the table, regardless of what certain people wuld like to tell us.
The central issue to the war was actually whether or not a state could leave the union. If the CSA states had not chosen to "take their ball and go home" there wouldn't have been a war. There may have been some heavyhanded enforcement in a place or two to force compliance but it would have been done at both a state and federal level with authorities cooperating with one another.
The CSA states saw a real issue of an increasing divide in the interests of their own states and those who remained in the USA. Their chosen means of dealing with this division was to make it formal and permanent by creating a new country that would have their interests at heart. It was a brave, risky, and foolish attempt that would have likley succeeded on a long term basis if the USA had not chosen to resort to arms. If the USA had simply packed up their soldiers from all CSA territories and marched home, we'd likely live in a very different and worse world today. The CSA would be your white trash buffer between you Yankees and Mexico. It would certainly be a poor nation.
The people who made the decisions in this war were neither noble nor altruistic. Their goals were all their own. Despite what anyone would have you believe, nobody crawled up on a cross and died for our sins between 1861 and 1865. A lot of men died for our stupidity, though. In the end, a nation was reforged, though.
Probably one of the biggest underlying resentments in the South to this day has nothing to do with the Reconstruction period. It has to do with the start of the war. 3/4 of the yahoos who ride around with rebel flags and have 50k worth of confederate money stashed at home in a chest would shut the hell up if the US history books listed the CSA as a nation instead of a bunch of rebel states. Everyone loses a fight sooner or later, we're just pissed that we don't get the basic respect of being called a country, short-lived though it was. The USA became a country the moment they shipped off a piece of paper that said "We quit" to England. Nobody wants to bring back slavery or fight another war. Just a little respect, that's all. Say we were a country when we declared independance and that we got invaded and absorbed against our will. It's the truth, after all. Is that too much to ask?
The central issue to the war was actually whether or not a state could leave the union. If the CSA states had not chosen to "take their ball and go home" there wouldn't have been a war. There may have been some heavyhanded enforcement in a place or two to force compliance but it would have been done at both a state and federal level with authorities cooperating with one another.
The CSA states saw a real issue of an increasing divide in the interests of their own states and those who remained in the USA. Their chosen means of dealing with this division was to make it formal and permanent by creating a new country that would have their interests at heart. It was a brave, risky, and foolish attempt that would have likley succeeded on a long term basis if the USA had not chosen to resort to arms. If the USA had simply packed up their soldiers from all CSA territories and marched home, we'd likely live in a very different and worse world today. The CSA would be your white trash buffer between you Yankees and Mexico. It would certainly be a poor nation.
The people who made the decisions in this war were neither noble nor altruistic. Their goals were all their own. Despite what anyone would have you believe, nobody crawled up on a cross and died for our sins between 1861 and 1865. A lot of men died for our stupidity, though. In the end, a nation was reforged, though.
Probably one of the biggest underlying resentments in the South to this day has nothing to do with the Reconstruction period. It has to do with the start of the war. 3/4 of the yahoos who ride around with rebel flags and have 50k worth of confederate money stashed at home in a chest would shut the hell up if the US history books listed the CSA as a nation instead of a bunch of rebel states. Everyone loses a fight sooner or later, we're just pissed that we don't get the basic respect of being called a country, short-lived though it was. The USA became a country the moment they shipped off a piece of paper that said "We quit" to England. Nobody wants to bring back slavery or fight another war. Just a little respect, that's all. Say we were a country when we declared independance and that we got invaded and absorbed against our will. It's the truth, after all. Is that too much to ask?
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