I have a friend. Tom lives with his girlfriend Jane. Jane owns a small fluffy puppy. While Jane was at work Tom had his friend Jack and his girlfriend Diane over for a visit. Diane brought her new $200 purse over with her and set it on the coffee table. While they were conversating around the kitchen table, the dog drug the purse off the table and chewed up the strap of the purse. Jack and Diane now want to be compensated for the purse, because she bought it on sale, they only want what she paid for it: $120.
Jane has flat out said it was Diane's fault for leaving the purse where the dog could get it, she wasn't there, they're not her friends and she isn't paying them a da[b][/b]mn thing. Tom, in the interest of keeping the friendship, has agreed to pay them the money, but he feels like he should then get the purse. While it is visably damaged, it's still a functional $200 purse. And of course Diane does not want to give him the purse because they are no longer on sale and $120 is not enough to replace it.
So tell me, what's your verdict?
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People's Court.
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Any of the above options should solve the issue
Judge Judy.
Jerry Springer.
UFC.
A duel at dawn.
Any of the above options should solve the issue
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
I have had a similar thing happen with myself and a close friend that owns a fuffy puppy. They insisted on giving me money, and we refused it. Yes, I was annoyed (it was a cashmere scarf), but I wouldn't accept money from a friend like that. I wasn't annoyed with them, I was annoyed with the puppy.
That is a screwed up situation, because I feel like in most cases among friends, it would probably happen the way I just described. I think if they pay they money, then they should get the purse I suppose. Sheesh...what was it, a coach purse? Go get a knock-off...
She assumed the risk of having her purse damaged in some way the minute she stepped into a household with pets. Jane is not liable.
A severed Puppy Head is ample compensation for situations like this
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You should listen to what Jane has to say she's got the right idea, personally if they where still there after I stopped laughing at their perposal,
I would of said sorry but no, and sent them packing, friends dont demand money then say their going to keep the item in question also,
just the fact that you actually had that conversation shows what kind of people they are... and you should tell them so.
solution: keep puppy, lose friends
Edited, Sat Nov 26 13:20:09 2005 by Neiuo
I would of said sorry but no, and sent them packing, friends dont demand money then say their going to keep the item in question also,
just the fact that you actually had that conversation shows what kind of people they are... and you should tell them so.
solution: keep puppy, lose friends
Edited, Sat Nov 26 13:20:09 2005 by Neiuo
I never liked the song Jack and Diane, so it's their fault.
At the most, they might offer to take the purse to a repair shop to see if it is fixable. But pay for it? No.
If Tom does pay for it, he shouldn't give them the $120 because unless the purse was still in its original packaging, it is a used purse.
Or better yet, they could get Diane a self help book to find out why she is being so materialistic.
If Tom does pay for it, he shouldn't give them the $120 because unless the purse was still in its original packaging, it is a used purse.
Or better yet, they could get Diane a self help book to find out why she is being so materialistic.
i say, Jane, Jack and Tom should all slap Diane for buying a $200 purse.
I'm sure Diane feels the same about people with $300+ game systems.
Anyway, if it's the strap, take it to a leather repair place and see what can be done. Tom pays repairs, Diane keeps purse. Yay.
Anyway, if it's the strap, take it to a leather repair place and see what can be done. Tom pays repairs, Diane keeps purse. Yay.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
ShadowmanXX wrote:
i say, Jane, Jack and Tom should all slap Diane for buying a $200 purse.
/nod. Or at least slap her silly for bringing a $200 purse into a house with a pet that chews. The woman is a moron. Its her purse, her property, her responsilbility. Maybe next time she'll take better care if her items
I say Jane should dump Tom's *** for having such horrid friends and then bringing them over in the first place. Her poor pooch could suffer digestive problems due to the chemicals used in the tanning process.
Seriously, anyone who would pay $200 for a purse shouldn't take it out to visit the type of people who have a puppy living in an apartment. Jack and Diane need to live within their means better , get friends of their own class, or simply fu[/i]ck off. Any of the above work.
If Diane doesn't want to give up the purse, it's evidently not so damaged as to be worthless. Whatever price she wants for it to hand it over when he hands her a new purse should be deducted from the price of a new $200 purse which Tom should indeed buy her. Then Tom should forget that Jack and Diane ever existed because that $200 purse is apparently the most valuable commodity in the entire friendship. Tom should do all of this in secret, then tell Jane post-coitus, cause she's gonna put him to the curb when he does it. Hopefully he'll have the good sense to hit it one last time before he opens his trap.
Seriously, anyone who would pay $200 for a purse shouldn't take it out to visit the type of people who have a puppy living in an apartment. Jack and Diane need to live within their means better , get friends of their own class, or simply fu[/i]ck off. Any of the above work.
If Diane doesn't want to give up the purse, it's evidently not so damaged as to be worthless. Whatever price she wants for it to hand it over when he hands her a new purse should be deducted from the price of a new $200 purse which Tom should indeed buy her. Then Tom should forget that Jack and Diane ever existed because that $200 purse is apparently the most valuable commodity in the entire friendship. Tom should do all of this in secret, then tell Jane post-coitus, cause she's gonna put him to the curb when he does it. Hopefully he'll have the good sense to hit it one last time before he opens his trap.
Lady DSD wrote:
The woman is a moron. Its her purse, her property, her responsilbility. Maybe next time she'll take better care if her items
If you can't keep your pets under control or in another room where they're not destroying your guests' belongings, maybe you shouldn't have guests over because you're a sh[i][/i]itty host.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I'm with Joph on this one. Pet owners are responsible for damage done by their pets.
So sayeth me.
So sayeth me.
The pet owner should pay to have the purse repaired. Now if the dog had chewed on any other part of the purse then the strap I can see paying the repacement value on the purse, but any good shoerepair place could repair the strap so it wouldn't be noticeable. Plus most straps can be easily repaced with leather dye to match.
If I was going to spend that type of money on a purse, it would be custom made for me by a friend. He belts and purses and bags many east coast folks use for Ren Garb. I have 2 regular belts on top of the ren garb belt and purse he made and he has replace parts and added new holes as I lost weight for free.
If I was going to spend that type of money on a purse, it would be custom made for me by a friend. He belts and purses and bags many east coast folks use for Ren Garb. I have 2 regular belts on top of the ren garb belt and purse he made and he has replace parts and added new holes as I lost weight for free.
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I have a feeling there's a whole generation of people that don't know shoe repair places actually exist, and they can do some great work.
When my cat peed on a fur or furlike jacket that a friend of a friend brought to my house, I offered to have it cleaned for her.
I didn't really blame the cat; it was a nasty, ratty piece of work and I wanted to pee on it myself.
I have to say, a professional cleaning did it some good. It was still tacky, mind you, but it looked much, much better.
A strap of a handbag should be replaceable if not reparable.
I didn't really blame the cat; it was a nasty, ratty piece of work and I wanted to pee on it myself.
I have to say, a professional cleaning did it some good. It was still tacky, mind you, but it looked much, much better.
A strap of a handbag should be replaceable if not reparable.
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I have a feeling there's a whole generation of people that don't know shoe repair places actually exist, and they can do some great work.
Or they do know and want to keep the bag, and have the handle replaced, and pocket the rest of the cash offered to pay for the damaged purse.
When I was in high school and wore a retainer for my teeth, I went to my friend's house, and before dinner had to take it out, so I took it out, put it in its case, put the case in my backpack, and put the backpack on top of their piano.
After dinner I came out to find that their dog had dragged it off the top of the piano by the strap, knocked it out of the backpack (I hadn't zipped it up), chewed the case open, and chewed my retainer to bits.
Apparently, it was still my fault, and they refused to pay $200 (or so, I don't recall anymore how much it was) for the replacement.
After dinner I came out to find that their dog had dragged it off the top of the piano by the strap, knocked it out of the backpack (I hadn't zipped it up), chewed the case open, and chewed my retainer to bits.
Apparently, it was still my fault, and they refused to pay $200 (or so, I don't recall anymore how much it was) for the replacement.
Do what now?
Jophiel wrote:
Lady DSD wrote:
The woman is a moron. Its her purse, her property, her responsilbility. Maybe next time she'll take better care if her items
If you can't keep your pets under control or in another room where they're not destroying your guests' belongings, maybe you shouldn't have guests over because you're a sh[/i]itty host.
But that's just it! The woman of the puppy did not know they were over, she was NOT home, so why should SHE pay?? If anyone feels guilty over this than let **** or whoever is their friend pay. But if you are a woman who buys that expensive of a purse, and you know you are visiting aplace with animals, put the damn purse up on the kitchen table not a coffee table. How hard is it to look after your belongings if they mean thatmuch to you?
She knew she was going to a house with pets. Therefore, I think it is her responsibility to look after her own things and think before she puts her purse down within reach of a puppy. She wasnt thinking, and now she is trying to make someone else pay for what could have been prevented if she used that brain of hers in the first place
[i]Edited, Sun Nov 27 15:10:25 2005 by DSD
Danalog the Vengeful Programmer wrote:
After dinner I came out to find that their dog had dragged it off the top of the piano by the strap, knocked it out of the backpack (I hadn't zipped it up), chewed the case open, and chewed my retainer to bits.
Why are dogs so crazy about retainers anyway?
LadyOfHolyDarkness, Eater of Souls wrote:
Why are dogs so crazy about retainers anyway?
Minty aftertaste.
Lady DSD wrote:
But that's just it! The woman of the puppy did not know they were over, she was NOT home, so why should SHE pay?? If anyone feels guilty over this than let **** or whoever is their friend pay.
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Jack and Diane now want to be compensated for the purse, because she bought it on sale, they only want what she paid for it: $120.
As co-habitant in the home where the puppy was kept, Tom was the host and should feel responsible. Saying "It was Jane's puppy, not mine" would be a cop-out. Granted, Jane herself shouldn't be responsible but I don't see where anyone is directly asking
Jane to pay. Presumably Tom, Jane and the puppy are one household unit since Tom and Jane are significant others and share a home so I guess Jane feels that she's taking a loss by Tom paying but them's the breaks.
I do feel that Diane should either (a) get the purse repaired and Tom should pay for it or (b) Diane should accept the $120, give over the purse and call it done. Expecting to be reimbursed and then keep what is, I assume, a repairable purse isn't cool. But that's neither here nor there towards reasonably expecting the host (Tom) to keep her possessions safe from whatever fauna is roaming his home.
Edited to keep names straight
Edited, Sun Nov 27 19:24:00 2005 by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I've had the exact same problem. My puppy, being a puppy, enjoys chewing shoes.
My sister's friend comes over. I inform her that my puppy likes to chew shoes, and that we usually put things that we don't want chewed in the back hall behind a closed door. Of course, she leaves them on a table, and my puppy being quite large, he managed to reach the shoes and do a good bit of damage to them.
Paid for them (they weren't expensive... not like it was $200, more like $25), but still... GRRRRRRRRR.
My sister's friend comes over. I inform her that my puppy likes to chew shoes, and that we usually put things that we don't want chewed in the back hall behind a closed door. Of course, she leaves them on a table, and my puppy being quite large, he managed to reach the shoes and do a good bit of damage to them.
Paid for them (they weren't expensive... not like it was $200, more like $25), but still... GRRRRRRRRR.
DodoBird the Meaningless wrote:
My sister's friend comes over. I inform her that my puppy likes to chew shoes, and that we usually put things that we don't want chewed in the back hall behind a closed door.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well Joph, all Im going to say is if you ever visit my house, don't bring anything that expensive over. Because I do have a puppy who chews and I won't be paying if you can't keep your own stuff high up after being warned 
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