now Sony wants access to your e-mail and cell phone recordsFollow

This is getting really annoying, why the f[/b]uck doesn't Sony just f[b]uck off and sto pthinking that they're above the law? Things like this are why I'm against most forms of capitolism. Sony is a good example of what happens when Capitolism goes too far.

Hm, I don't know... stop voting for the lawmakers who pass laws you hate? Stop buying sh[b][/b]it from companies that take actions you dislike?

These seem to be time-honored ways of getting one's point across. Stop listening to political action committees, stop feeding votes to a party, put down that Playstation 3. Or, if you will not do these things, at least accept that you are complicit in your own slavery.

You can grow to love the whip.. ;)

I wasn't advocating voting apathy; I was stating that listening to PACs and Parties is a foolish way to conduct one's politics. The people who vote an entire ticket without regard for the candidates on it are not helping matters at all. When we self-identify as Democrat or Republican, and let the talking-points of a party color our thinking, we have already become part of the problem.

Voting is quite important. I'd never ask that The People be disenfranchised so. (Excepting the insane, convicted felons, and anybody who really likes watching American Idol.)

Just as important as voting and making consumer choices is letting corporations and your elected officials know WHY you're making those choices. Get in the habit of writing to your congressional representatives and to the presidents of companies like Sony.

Here's the kicker: they WANT to hear from you. They spend millions of dollars a year trying to figure out what consumers and voters want. So tell them.

thats just it, i do not have anything to do with any kind of Sony product to the best of my knowledge. if sony is involved, i am not.

yes what was said about voting along party lines i agree 100% with. vote for the person doing what you agree with, or going in a direction, so they claim, to be most like the direction you wish to travle.

as for writting your congressman, that can work, but how many people are going to do that? i have a few times and have seen positive results for my company.

sadly i think most Americans, and those of other countries, no longer have any real faith in their elected officials. i know for the most part i do not.

nope get mine from itunes. that way i get exactly what i want when i want and it is clean, no hidden files etc.

yeah itunes outsells retail stores:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4459312.stm

i love my itunes

So would recording streaming music from musicmatch be considered illegal?

good question

then if for private use it is legal as far as i know.

so your saying...

the big giant corperations wants as much demographic information as they can get from their customers to better streamline their operations and increase their prophits....

who would have thought?

BTW, with a bit of payola, they can get your info any time they want from your internet provider and cellphone provider. the only differance is they can USE it OPENLY if they make it legal to do so.

but heads up, they already have it. they just want to make it legal so they can pay less for it.

can promise you they do not have any access to my e-mail as i own my own server. can promise you they do not have any access to my e-mail as i own my own server. unless they hack my server, and btw that is against the law, they have zero records of my e-mails. now for my cell phone that is an other story.

the bottom line here is companies are tring to call "protecting proffit" the same thing as catching terrorists who are tring to kill people. that is not the same under any definition. and btw that is against the law, they have zero records of my e-mails. now for my cell phone that is an other story.

the bottom line here is companies are tring to call "protecting proffit" the same thing as catching terrorists who are tring to kill people. that is not the same under any definition.
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unless they hack my server,

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you ever wonder why email worms were invented to begine with? why there are so many? who develops all these cookies? why they are included with just about every program you install?

if you use windows on your server, they already have access to your e-mails. windows has cookies. they send info back to microsoft. any info they design them to send.

they can track your IP address.

im not being parinoid when i say they already have it. they already have it.

all making it legal will do is allow them to be used publically, and significantly reduce the cost of procuring the information, and reduce any liability associated with possessing the information.

ie, make it cheaper. make using it openly risk free.

you are a fool if you think anything you store on a computer with internet access is private. infact, your better off using the mail for privacy.

im not saying microsoft themselves would do it. they would create an independant company to gather the information to insulate themselves, and PAY for it. where do you think all of these companies come from that make so many cookies, worms, trojans and the like? just kids messing around for fun?

how about professional information brokers.

the internet is all about the money. otherwise, all it would still be is a hand full of private servers in hobbiest homes.

information is a product. it is for sale. adn the people with the most ability to gather it will gain the most rewards. microsoft. any large softwear company. to not do so would be negligent.

they already have it. they just want to make it open and cheaper to do bussiness. you want privacy, use snail mail. the phone isnt even safe any more. you dont want ANYONE else to hear it, dont say it, ir say it person to person. its the only way.

coarse there are also programs that produce random ip addresses, and the likes, but even they will eventually leave a signaure.