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#1 Nov 24 2005 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I am truly disgusted.

Two robbers, who forced their way into a couples home after posing as postmen, who stabbed the husband to death and left the wife to die .. claim the following:

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Mr White is alleged to have said he did not know there would be people in the house, but when the door of the Monckton's Chelsea home was answered he struggled with Mr Monckton.


So erm .. excuse me MR killer. When he answered the door, why not just run away? Why force your way in and stab him?

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The defendant told police that when the man he was with started hitting Mr Monckton in the ribs he "did not realise it was with anything more than a fist", Mr Horwell said,


How on EARTH can this be a defense? You force your way into someones home with pure violence. You then proceed to attack them with a weapon that magically appeared in your hands? Oh please. They had every intent.

Sometimes I wish I was called for Jury Duty. At times like this, I wish we had US laws.

"let the bastards fry" would be my conviction for these 2.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
#2 Nov 24 2005 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
Yea, it's sad. What is even worse than those two idiots, are the lawers that actually defend them and try to convince a jury that they are not guilty of any crime.

I would like to say this kind of thing is shocking, but, I hear, read, watch on tv **** like this almost on a daily basis. I sometimes wonder "what is this world coming to" but then realize, idiots like this have lived in our midst since time began. And will continue to live amonst the generations to come. So in retrospect, not really new...really.
#3 Nov 25 2005 at 11:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Have you heard about the ice addict here in Hawaii that killed his parents with a HATCHET? He was mad at them for not giving him money for drugs. And these poor people were in their mid-70s.
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#4 Nov 25 2005 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
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The UK has a much more interesting interpretation of civil rights than the United States does. They're so fair that even their criminals get full protection of the law.

I much prefer that one's civil rights go out the window during the commission of a crime. Citizenship rights, too; if you can't obey the law, you ought not expect full protection under it.
#5 Nov 25 2005 at 3:59 PM Rating: Default
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Wingchild wrote:
The UK has a much more interesting interpretation of civil rights than the United States does. They're so fair that even their criminals get full protection of the law.

I much prefer that one's civil rights go out the window during the commission of a crime. Citizenship rights, too; if you can't obey the law, you ought not expect full protection under it.
Until they're convicted, they're presumed innocent and get the same rights I expect if I'm accused.

They're accused, not yet convicted.

If they're convicted, fu[/i]ck 'em, let 'em rot. Until then, shut the fu[i]ck up Jennock & Wingchild.

Ever been arrested for a crime you didn't commit?

No?

Thought not.

Fu[i][/i]cking eejit Smiley: oyvey
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#6 Nov 25 2005 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good


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I much prefer that one's civil rights go out the window during the commission of a crime.


You go right ahead and give up those rights. I think I would prefer them stick around a while.


So, what happens if you are accused of a crime and going to trial, but innocent? Or better yet, explain what happens if you have been convicted, but can possibly win on appeal? Eh, maybe they murdered someone, ***** their rights. Habeas Corpus? Meh. Might be a terrorist!

#7 Nov 26 2005 at 5:17 AM Rating: Good
Pottymouth, these people do not deny their crime. They were caught, ID'd and stand trial admitting they were at the scene and committed these crimes.

This is not a case of innocent till proven guilty. This is a case of HOW guilty they are, based on the killers own testimony, the surviving witness/victim and the evidence at the scene.

What staggers me is the defense arguments. I really cannot accept that the killers "expected" the house to be empty, but upon finding it not empty (by ringing the doorbell and having it answered), have no other recourse but to violently enter the home and stab its owners. Walking away would have resulted in no incident. They cannot justify forceful entry armed with knives. Who can?

If you really feel I am being unjust and hard. Please justify the killers actions. And also, this is the UK. We do not carry knives or guns. There is no argument that is acceptable for carrying a weapon upon you.
#8 Nov 26 2005 at 11:43 AM Rating: Default
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JennockFV wrote:
If you really feel I am being unjust and hard. Please justify the killers actions. And also, this is the UK. We do not carry knives or guns.
Who the fu[/i]ck are you to ask me toi justify anything, slack-cu[i]nt?

Once a Jury has announced a verdict I can choose to damn or praise as I see fit. Until then, STFU



JennockFV wrote:
this is the UK. We do not carry knives or guns.
Speak for yourself. Smiley: oyvey
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