I saw this the other day and thought it was interesting,the space 'pulse' attack.
It is considered a non-lethal form of warfare, but it would be economically catastrophic because it works "by damaging electricity-based networks and infrastructure, including computers and telecommunications."
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well, an EMP threat has been dicussed even when I was still serving in the national peoples army in the GDR (which was a few years ago).
FYI, that EMP threat was one of the reasons, why the russians kept on using vacuum tubes instead of transistors. because tubes are not impacted by an EMP. even some of their more advanced MIG fighter planes still utilized vac. tubes.
FYI, that EMP threat was one of the reasons, why the russians kept on using vacuum tubes instead of transistors. because tubes are not impacted by an EMP. even some of their more advanced MIG fighter planes still utilized vac. tubes.
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I thought they exist already, late eighties? a missile (maybe no cruise missile, granted) with up to 10 (?) warheads with 1 Megaton each TNT equiv. or so...?
Those do, yes. The new ones the bush administration recently authorized research on would have the same yield, but instead of 10 per missile, you could fit 80 per missile. Scary huh.
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"well, an EMP threat has been dicussed even when I was still serving in the national peoples army in the GDR (which was a few years ago).
FYI, that EMP threat was one of the reasons, why the russians kept on using vacuum tubes instead of transistors. because tubes are not impacted by an EMP. even some of their more advanced MIG fighter planes still utilized vac. tubes. "
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I did not know that. Fascinating.
Good point, Kaj!
"well, an EMP threat has been dicussed even when I was still serving in the national peoples army in the GDR (which was a few years ago).
FYI, that EMP threat was one of the reasons, why the russians kept on using vacuum tubes instead of transistors. because tubes are not impacted by an EMP. even some of their more advanced MIG fighter planes still utilized vac. tubes. "
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I did not know that. Fascinating.
Good point, Kaj!
Yeah, I remember reading about how some of our guys were taking apart Migs and laughing about how old the technology was until they realized it was effectively hardened against an EMP. Then they didn't feel so much like laughing any more.
More idea's for no my goal of non-destructive weapons.
The Man Cannon. Probably NWS....unless you work for the gov.
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Edited, Wed Nov 23 14:18:42 2005 by Elinda
The Man Cannon. Probably NWS....unless you work for the gov.
fixied my linkie
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Albert wrote:
"I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with -- stone clubs."
Lord Louis Mountbatten in 1975 wrote:
If the Third World War is fought with nuclear weapons, the fourth will be fought will bows and arrows.
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Not really war related, more a public order tool
Its called a Laser Dazzler. I know, kind of cheesy.
It looks like a mag light flashlight but instead it progects a laser beam that pulsates on its target.
The beam is about 4 feet wide at 15 feet.
You shine it at a person and it pulsates a laser at the same rythem the human brain wavelengths are at. It basically immobolizes a target instantly and painlessly.
There is a video floating around that I couldnt find but they show police shining it at people and they just instantly fall to the ground as if they had bee shot in the head. When they shut the device off, they get up as if nothing happened.
Ok here is an article showing a conceptualization of the miltary using these lasers from a humvee...
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001306.html
heres a pic of one affixed to an m-16...
http://www.defense-update.com/products/s/saber-203.htm
and a pic of one in flashlight form...
http://www.defense-update.com/products/s/sabershot.htm
WOOT FOUND THE VIDEO!
They show a photo of the close of flashlight model, then two videos of how it is used. One from a demo, one from a new story.
http://www.laserdazzler.net/standard_laser_dazzler.htm
There is a new gun tech the military is testing where bullets explode when they near their target. So if you are aiming at a target who hides behind a concrete wall, you aim at the wall, set the distance, then aim next to the wall and the bullet will explode when it reaches that distance. On explosion the bullet sends shrapnel out in all directions. Doesnt sound to scary, but imagine 20-30 of them popping of near you. Ouchy, thas a lot of boo boos.
Edited, Wed Nov 23 14:53:19 2005 by President
Its called a Laser Dazzler. I know, kind of cheesy.
It looks like a mag light flashlight but instead it progects a laser beam that pulsates on its target.
The beam is about 4 feet wide at 15 feet.
You shine it at a person and it pulsates a laser at the same rythem the human brain wavelengths are at. It basically immobolizes a target instantly and painlessly.
There is a video floating around that I couldnt find but they show police shining it at people and they just instantly fall to the ground as if they had bee shot in the head. When they shut the device off, they get up as if nothing happened.
Ok here is an article showing a conceptualization of the miltary using these lasers from a humvee...
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001306.html
heres a pic of one affixed to an m-16...
http://www.defense-update.com/products/s/saber-203.htm
and a pic of one in flashlight form...
http://www.defense-update.com/products/s/sabershot.htm
WOOT FOUND THE VIDEO!
They show a photo of the close of flashlight model, then two videos of how it is used. One from a demo, one from a new story.
http://www.laserdazzler.net/standard_laser_dazzler.htm
There is a new gun tech the military is testing where bullets explode when they near their target. So if you are aiming at a target who hides behind a concrete wall, you aim at the wall, set the distance, then aim next to the wall and the bullet will explode when it reaches that distance. On explosion the bullet sends shrapnel out in all directions. Doesnt sound to scary, but imagine 20-30 of them popping of near you. Ouchy, thas a lot of boo boos.
Edited, Wed Nov 23 14:53:19 2005 by President
better laser capabilities
Particularly so as high power chemical lasers become smaller and more portable. Back in the 50s or 60s there was a technical demonstration where scientists had inflated a large red balloon, with a smaller blue balloon inflated inside of it. A laser was used to destroy the blue balloon without harming the red.
The military has always wanted some way to immobilize or eliminate the human operators of machinery and weaponry, while leaving the materiel in tact. It was one of the big drivers behind neutron bomb ideas (low explosive power, but super high radiation with a relatively fast halflife; kills humans quickly, leaves cities standing).
Another way lasers are being used is for missile defense work. Laugh it up, but I'm not talking about shooting ICBMs out of space (though there are projects in testing for that); I'm talking about MTHEL, the Mobile Theater High-Energy Laser.
MTHEL is a weapons platform featuring a chem. laser designed by the US married to a targeting system designed by the Israelis. The goal is to be able to acquire and destroy small projectile fire -- RPGs, mortars, short range rocketry, things like that. Initial tests suggested that they would be able to engage something like forty-five targets 'simultaneously' (within one second of each other, probably). Last I heard, they had the unit miniaturized enough to fit onto a Humvee.
- more use of unmanned aerial vehicles, drones, robotics
Anything that we can do to reduce the number of human bodies in the field during warfare is a Good Thing. Controlled robotics can be used for all kinds of activities, and honestly, they really should; it's tough to tell Mrs. Smith the reason that her darling boy had his legs blown off when entering a house is because taxpayers didn't want to pony up for a replacable robot to go in first.
There's a commercial company selling a product called (amusingly) iRobot - some of the tech that went into it was developed by the US Army. iRobot has been used to investigate booby-trapped hosues and such, and I think it can be used to disable explosive devices.
http://www.irobot.com/
- better sensor technology
One of the big trends in sensor tech is miniaturizing multi-spectrum sensors, then layering them together with some sophisticated software and ad-hoc networking capability.
We have these cool little devices that are being tested now; little cylinders, with a base smaller than your average soda can, total height of a couple inches. These can be loaded into cluster-bomb style canisters and released into a battlefield. After they land, the sensors scan the area for others like themselves and set up a network. They appoint one of their number as a gateway, which sets up communications back to Field HQ.
These scattered sensors kick back and watch for things of interest. They're capable of radar, millimeter-wave laser, magnetic sensing, and vibration sensing. When a tank rolls in range, they get a radar signature, vibration signature, mag signature, etc., and send it back to HQ. A computer at base compares the notes they're picking up to a list of known profiles, figures out which kind of tank it is, updates the rest of the battlefield solution. The sensor network tracks it, plotting distance, course, and speed (with more than three sensors you can perform on the fly signal triangulation, and with more than a few seconds of data, you can plot courses).
Sure beats having a guy sit in a tree with a pair of binoculars.
- Smartmines
Minefield tech has come a long way since its inception, and its uses remain clear; it's tough to beat a minefield for cheap, reliable perimiter security. The same goes for interdicting high traffic areas against enemy movement.
Mines have problems. Older mines are indiscriminate; they can't tell friend from foe. Worse, they lack any way to disable them after a conflict happens. That leads to situations such as the one in Serbia where an estimated two million landmines are believed to still be buried. People die out there on a fairly regular basis because some pedestrian locates undetonated ordnance. Mines tend to take a lot of flak from international organizations due to the danger they represent to non-combatants long after a battle is over.
We've been working on mines that use networking tech (like in the smart-sensor example above). Supposedly they'll be able to both identify friend from foe, possibly by being in communication with HQ (or by use of a transmitter broadcasting a FOF signal, like our fighter jets use). They're also supposed to be able to orient themselves after deployment, and to re-orient based on battlefield conditions.
i.e., you drop them out of an aircraft, they set themselves up into a configuration, and wait for an enemy. If some are detonated or disrupted, surviving mines re-deploy for maximum coverage. Automatically.
- `Super Soldier` work
No, nothing out of Captain America. We're always working on survivability for our troops.
Digital camoflauge has been suggested and implemented on a limited scale; if they can get the tech right, it should be able to shift your camo pattern to match the environment you're in.
More tools for battlefield awareness have been cropping up. I remember people were working on ways to enhance battlefield communications; comm-links in the helmets that kept you on a squad channel, a button you could toggle to establish line-of-sight communication with another soldier, stuff like that.
We've also been working on inserting health monitors of various kinds into battle uniforms. We want to know when soldiers are injured, if they're losing blood, if their heart rates are up, if they're becoming too fatigued to work.
Science is always hard at work for the military.
Edited, Wed Nov 23 16:59:24 2005 by Wingchild
Particularly so as high power chemical lasers become smaller and more portable. Back in the 50s or 60s there was a technical demonstration where scientists had inflated a large red balloon, with a smaller blue balloon inflated inside of it. A laser was used to destroy the blue balloon without harming the red.
The military has always wanted some way to immobilize or eliminate the human operators of machinery and weaponry, while leaving the materiel in tact. It was one of the big drivers behind neutron bomb ideas (low explosive power, but super high radiation with a relatively fast halflife; kills humans quickly, leaves cities standing).
Another way lasers are being used is for missile defense work. Laugh it up, but I'm not talking about shooting ICBMs out of space (though there are projects in testing for that); I'm talking about MTHEL, the Mobile Theater High-Energy Laser.
MTHEL is a weapons platform featuring a chem. laser designed by the US married to a targeting system designed by the Israelis. The goal is to be able to acquire and destroy small projectile fire -- RPGs, mortars, short range rocketry, things like that. Initial tests suggested that they would be able to engage something like forty-five targets 'simultaneously' (within one second of each other, probably). Last I heard, they had the unit miniaturized enough to fit onto a Humvee.
- more use of unmanned aerial vehicles, drones, robotics
Anything that we can do to reduce the number of human bodies in the field during warfare is a Good Thing. Controlled robotics can be used for all kinds of activities, and honestly, they really should; it's tough to tell Mrs. Smith the reason that her darling boy had his legs blown off when entering a house is because taxpayers didn't want to pony up for a replacable robot to go in first.
There's a commercial company selling a product called (amusingly) iRobot - some of the tech that went into it was developed by the US Army. iRobot has been used to investigate booby-trapped hosues and such, and I think it can be used to disable explosive devices.
http://www.irobot.com/
- better sensor technology
One of the big trends in sensor tech is miniaturizing multi-spectrum sensors, then layering them together with some sophisticated software and ad-hoc networking capability.
We have these cool little devices that are being tested now; little cylinders, with a base smaller than your average soda can, total height of a couple inches. These can be loaded into cluster-bomb style canisters and released into a battlefield. After they land, the sensors scan the area for others like themselves and set up a network. They appoint one of their number as a gateway, which sets up communications back to Field HQ.
These scattered sensors kick back and watch for things of interest. They're capable of radar, millimeter-wave laser, magnetic sensing, and vibration sensing. When a tank rolls in range, they get a radar signature, vibration signature, mag signature, etc., and send it back to HQ. A computer at base compares the notes they're picking up to a list of known profiles, figures out which kind of tank it is, updates the rest of the battlefield solution. The sensor network tracks it, plotting distance, course, and speed (with more than three sensors you can perform on the fly signal triangulation, and with more than a few seconds of data, you can plot courses).
Sure beats having a guy sit in a tree with a pair of binoculars.
- Smartmines
Minefield tech has come a long way since its inception, and its uses remain clear; it's tough to beat a minefield for cheap, reliable perimiter security. The same goes for interdicting high traffic areas against enemy movement.
Mines have problems. Older mines are indiscriminate; they can't tell friend from foe. Worse, they lack any way to disable them after a conflict happens. That leads to situations such as the one in Serbia where an estimated two million landmines are believed to still be buried. People die out there on a fairly regular basis because some pedestrian locates undetonated ordnance. Mines tend to take a lot of flak from international organizations due to the danger they represent to non-combatants long after a battle is over.
We've been working on mines that use networking tech (like in the smart-sensor example above). Supposedly they'll be able to both identify friend from foe, possibly by being in communication with HQ (or by use of a transmitter broadcasting a FOF signal, like our fighter jets use). They're also supposed to be able to orient themselves after deployment, and to re-orient based on battlefield conditions.
i.e., you drop them out of an aircraft, they set themselves up into a configuration, and wait for an enemy. If some are detonated or disrupted, surviving mines re-deploy for maximum coverage. Automatically.
- `Super Soldier` work
No, nothing out of Captain America. We're always working on survivability for our troops.
Digital camoflauge has been suggested and implemented on a limited scale; if they can get the tech right, it should be able to shift your camo pattern to match the environment you're in.
More tools for battlefield awareness have been cropping up. I remember people were working on ways to enhance battlefield communications; comm-links in the helmets that kept you on a squad channel, a button you could toggle to establish line-of-sight communication with another soldier, stuff like that.
We've also been working on inserting health monitors of various kinds into battle uniforms. We want to know when soldiers are injured, if they're losing blood, if their heart rates are up, if they're becoming too fatigued to work.
Science is always hard at work for the military.
Edited, Wed Nov 23 16:59:24 2005 by Wingchild
Elinda wrote:
More idea's for no my goal of non-destructive weapons.
The Man Cannon. Probably NWS....unless you work for the gov.
fixied my linkie
Edited, Wed Nov 23 14:18:42 2005 by Elinda
The Man Cannon. Probably NWS....unless you work for the gov.
fixied my linkie
Edited, Wed Nov 23 14:18:42 2005 by Elinda
George Bush's jesus.
Someone should photoshop this one and put Bush's head on the larger christ. It would make a nice avatard.
FTFY
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a. Micronukes. A nuclear warhhead small enough to fit several inside of a single cruise missile. While not as destructive as their bigger cousins, their true danger lies in the fact that they could be politically used much easier than a full scale nuke.
For the same reasons magnetic propulsion tech is being researched (rail gun), the story for the metal gear games acurratly describes how we know who fired that incoming nuke, so a magneticly thrown nuke ruins the whole mutually assured destruction part.
Wingchild wrote:
better laser capabilities
Particularly so as high power chemical lasers become smaller and more portable. Back in the 50s or 60s there was a technical demonstration where scientists had inflated a large red balloon, with a smaller blue balloon inflated inside of it. A laser was used to destroy the blue balloon without harming the red.
Particularly so as high power chemical lasers become smaller and more portable. Back in the 50s or 60s there was a technical demonstration where scientists had inflated a large red balloon, with a smaller blue balloon inflated inside of it. A laser was used to destroy the blue balloon without harming the red.
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- more use of unmanned aerial vehicles, drones, robotics
Anything that we can do to reduce the number of human bodies in the field during warfare is a Good Thing. Controlled robotics can be used for all kinds of activities, and honestly, they really should; it's tough to tell Mrs. Smith the reason that her darling boy had his legs blown off when entering a house is because taxpayers didn't want to pony up for a replacable robot to go in first.
Anything that we can do to reduce the number of human bodies in the field during warfare is a Good Thing. Controlled robotics can be used for all kinds of activities, and honestly, they really should; it's tough to tell Mrs. Smith the reason that her darling boy had his legs blown off when entering a house is because taxpayers didn't want to pony up for a replacable robot to go in first.
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And, of course, the US Army has their own freeware combat simulation game. Not only will every US teen and twentysomething be familiar with all aspects of modern warfare and weaponry, but also be able to pilot combat vehicles remotely from the safety of their own parents' basements.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Honestly, that doesn't strike me as being a bad thing. Four of the big stats in the CIA World Factbook:
Military service age and obligation
Manpower available for military service
Manpower fit for military service
Manpower reaching military service age annually
These govern what your country is going to be able to do on a battlefield. You can have all the guns you want, but without people to carry them and use them appropriately, they are inert pieces of metal.
The US has plenty of people reaching a suitable age for military service, but our enrollment rates aren't hot. More and more kids go to college these days. This isn't to say that the military is for kids that can't (or won't) attend college - it's just that military service is a great way for someone to gain skills and life experience. It's a time-honored way to prepare for adulthood. So is college. They're competing for the same bodies, most of the time.
If military service were a matter of being a console jockey while living comfortably on the home-front, enrollment would probably be much higher. Hell, we wouldn't even need to fix the obesity problem. A huge *** might be a pre-requisite for long bouts of chair-sitting.
.. The downside is that if your military tends to sit at home while conducting it's business, you can expect that enemy attacks will happen at home, where your army is. We would need much tighter border control before setting our robot armies loose on the world.
Military service age and obligation
Manpower available for military service
Manpower fit for military service
Manpower reaching military service age annually
These govern what your country is going to be able to do on a battlefield. You can have all the guns you want, but without people to carry them and use them appropriately, they are inert pieces of metal.
The US has plenty of people reaching a suitable age for military service, but our enrollment rates aren't hot. More and more kids go to college these days. This isn't to say that the military is for kids that can't (or won't) attend college - it's just that military service is a great way for someone to gain skills and life experience. It's a time-honored way to prepare for adulthood. So is college. They're competing for the same bodies, most of the time.
If military service were a matter of being a console jockey while living comfortably on the home-front, enrollment would probably be much higher. Hell, we wouldn't even need to fix the obesity problem. A huge *** might be a pre-requisite for long bouts of chair-sitting.
.. The downside is that if your military tends to sit at home while conducting it's business, you can expect that enemy attacks will happen at home, where your army is. We would need much tighter border control before setting our robot armies loose on the world.
You can bet the battlefield of the future will look something like this
I'll never get tired of linking that picture
I'll never get tired of linking that picture
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Wingchild wrote:
.. The downside is that if your military tends to sit at home while conducting it's business, you can expect that enemy attacks will happen at home, where your army is. We would need much tighter border control before setting our robot armies loose on the world.
That's where the sharks with the frickin lasers on their heads come in, neh?
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I think that any "weaponry" as such, like sonic/ultra-sonic, energy, EMP, limited nukes ....etc, are basically substantial additions to your existing ********
The real radical shift would be A.I, in other words, mechano-soldiers, with enough computing/reasoning power to substitute for a real soldier/fighter-jet/tank, and it consumes/requires much less "ore" than a tank ...etc.
That would make any army obsolete, in theory, a large steel/chip factory would keep these err.... cyborgs coming, rendering any "valor" or "courage" on the battlefield useless, you can destroy as many as you can, and more and more will spawn. It's like fighting an infinite number of Kamikazes.
Of course the technology is available today for A.I or even "Stupid" bots, but the research requires an astronomical figure. As soon as they're past that, its cheap downwards.
The real radical shift would be A.I, in other words, mechano-soldiers, with enough computing/reasoning power to substitute for a real soldier/fighter-jet/tank, and it consumes/requires much less "ore" than a tank ...etc.
That would make any army obsolete, in theory, a large steel/chip factory would keep these err.... cyborgs coming, rendering any "valor" or "courage" on the battlefield useless, you can destroy as many as you can, and more and more will spawn. It's like fighting an infinite number of Kamikazes.
Of course the technology is available today for A.I or even "Stupid" bots, but the research requires an astronomical figure. As soon as they're past that, its cheap downwards.
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Nano probes.
Micro spy/targetting tools.
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I think this guys idea is closest to what we may see in the next 10-15 years as the next generation of A.I. or combat agent.
Try reading the "Prey" By Michael Crichton, he writes many true to fact science fiction novels based on modern day cutting edge Tech.
Nano probes.
Micro spy/targetting tools.
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I think this guys idea is closest to what we may see in the next 10-15 years as the next generation of A.I. or combat agent.
Try reading the "Prey" By Michael Crichton, he writes many true to fact science fiction novels based on modern day cutting edge Tech.
Nope.
The next revolution deals with practical issues with pragmatic solutions using off-the-shelf technology. Once again, the key for battlefield commanders to ensure victory is information-- and the enemy's lack of information is the converse of that truism. Thus camoflage is the most readily achievable technology within our grasp today, not micro nukes, sharks with frickin' lasers, stun beams, energy weapons, or AT-ATs.
The thing which most of you seem to fail to grasp is budgetary and political constraints. There are not enough funds to develop a new technology and mass produce a practical application, nor is there any political will to create atomic weapons regardless of yield or tonnage.
Camoflage creates opportunity by denying the enemy information to allocate assets and choose the moment and location of the fight while allowing you to develop the tactical and operational picture necessary to prosecute the battle to our best advantage. This ain't science fiction, folks.
Totem
The next revolution deals with practical issues with pragmatic solutions using off-the-shelf technology. Once again, the key for battlefield commanders to ensure victory is information-- and the enemy's lack of information is the converse of that truism. Thus camoflage is the most readily achievable technology within our grasp today, not micro nukes, sharks with frickin' lasers, stun beams, energy weapons, or AT-ATs.
The thing which most of you seem to fail to grasp is budgetary and political constraints. There are not enough funds to develop a new technology and mass produce a practical application, nor is there any political will to create atomic weapons regardless of yield or tonnage.
Camoflage creates opportunity by denying the enemy information to allocate assets and choose the moment and location of the fight while allowing you to develop the tactical and operational picture necessary to prosecute the battle to our best advantage. This ain't science fiction, folks.
Totem
Debalic wrote:
Sharks with friggin' laser beams, of course!
Close.
Electromagnetic Weapons.
Portable railguns wouldn't be bad. Or well, it would, but I'm sure it would look nice too.
Maybe exploding bathtubs instead.
Hell, why not go all out Red Alert and build tesla coil weapons?
Whatever makes the clock tick I suppose. As long as they tell me before they destroy the world. Still haven't been to Disney World.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
once you reach the point you have enough weapons to destroy the entire planet and kill every living thing on it........and we have.......there is no point in making the next best thing for any other reason than keeping up with the joneses and making them spend the money you spent to get there.
the next big weapon is already here.
energy.
the person sitting on the top of the hill when it sarts to dwindle is the winner. washington thinkl tanks predict in 50 years, this generation, there will not be enough oil comming out of the ground for every one that wants it.
so the hill is being defined in this generation. whos on top? the middle east. how do WE get on top? by ebing in the middle east. how do we do that?
now why was it we didnt find any WMD,s in Iraq?
why not get off oil? if we did, there would be no hill, and thus no way to..."win"....
hence, gas guzzeling cars, hybrids that still use gas, hydrogen cells that come from natural gas, bio-desel that still usses oil, etc etc etc. the people in position to be near the top want this.
the people on the bottom however, like japan who is now putting a totally hydrogen electric vehicle on the street for lease, and canada who is developing a hydrogen converter that attaches to a fuel injection system of production cars and will make hydrogen from water and inject it into your internal combustion engine increassing your millage by up to 40 percent and reducing emmissions by 50 percent.....
....are paving the way to our future.
BTW, the company in canada producing this product expects to have it available to anyone who wants one for around 1000 dollars per unit in 2006. they currently have a working model and are refining ways to make it user friendlyt to install.
lets not forget germany who built a BMW 5 series with a comnpressed hydrogen tank in the trunk that will run on either gasoline or hydrogen.
so, the people on top want you to play THEIR game, the oil game, while the dregs of society are leading the way to the MORAL future.
mislead the nation into war? three big oil puppets, cheney, rice and bush? naw, there just good ole boys. it is just a coincedence that our greatest threat comes from a country with the second largets supply of sweet crude on the planet at a time when washington insiders predict an oil shortage in this generation.
a coincedence i tell you.
now quietly go back to the felds to graze, its all o tay.
the next big weapon is already here.
energy.
the person sitting on the top of the hill when it sarts to dwindle is the winner. washington thinkl tanks predict in 50 years, this generation, there will not be enough oil comming out of the ground for every one that wants it.
so the hill is being defined in this generation. whos on top? the middle east. how do WE get on top? by ebing in the middle east. how do we do that?
now why was it we didnt find any WMD,s in Iraq?
why not get off oil? if we did, there would be no hill, and thus no way to..."win"....
hence, gas guzzeling cars, hybrids that still use gas, hydrogen cells that come from natural gas, bio-desel that still usses oil, etc etc etc. the people in position to be near the top want this.
the people on the bottom however, like japan who is now putting a totally hydrogen electric vehicle on the street for lease, and canada who is developing a hydrogen converter that attaches to a fuel injection system of production cars and will make hydrogen from water and inject it into your internal combustion engine increassing your millage by up to 40 percent and reducing emmissions by 50 percent.....
....are paving the way to our future.
BTW, the company in canada producing this product expects to have it available to anyone who wants one for around 1000 dollars per unit in 2006. they currently have a working model and are refining ways to make it user friendlyt to install.
lets not forget germany who built a BMW 5 series with a comnpressed hydrogen tank in the trunk that will run on either gasoline or hydrogen.
so, the people on top want you to play THEIR game, the oil game, while the dregs of society are leading the way to the MORAL future.
mislead the nation into war? three big oil puppets, cheney, rice and bush? naw, there just good ole boys. it is just a coincedence that our greatest threat comes from a country with the second largets supply of sweet crude on the planet at a time when washington insiders predict an oil shortage in this generation.
a coincedence i tell you.
now quietly go back to the felds to graze, its all o tay.
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