Dearest vanelr. While I applaud your enthusiasm and zeal, there are some times in life when you should just stop while you are ahead and walk away. Unfortunately, that was about an hour ago.
So, continue please as Joph and Samira continue taking turns raping you to the delight of us all.
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NephthysWanderer the Charming wrote:
So, continue please as Joph and Samira continue taking turns raping you to the delight of us all.
Shush you you'll ruin the fun of lurking.
/lurks
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
vanelr wrote:
To jop: Are you suggesting that in this country, Christman is NOT recognized and celebrated as a Christian holiday. If this is indeed the perception than im accurate in saying that non christians are distorted this holiday for they own reasons and not the reason set down by tradition.
God doesn't want you to celebrate Christmas as a yearly event. If he did, he would have had one of his agents bring it up in the scriptures. That's kind of the entire point of the scriptures; to let folks know what they need to be doing to be right with God. Again, I'm not saying he's bothered by anyone celebrating in of itself but don't fool yourself for a moment into thinking you're doing something good or right or holy by acknowledging Christmas.
The very moment you call non-Christians who celebrate the day "hypocrites", you're placing a value upon them and saying "I am superior to these people because I am properly acknowleding this tradition and they are not." Guess what? That's the very definition of:
'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'
"Properly" celebrating Christmas is an act in futility. There is no proper way to celebrate Christmas in the eyes of God. Pretending that any way is better than another is to place man's value upon tradition and pretend that it holds value with the Lord. And that is a hypocrite. Congratulations.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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but don't fool yourself for a moment into thinking you're doing something good or right or holy by acknowledging Christmas.
It's not as high ranking as saying prayers to saints or virgin mothers, but I'm sure at some point God/Jesus might be slightly pleased at choosing to worship and praise him, in any way.
If that worries you, hopefully you're acknowledging Christ every day and constantly trying to live to a Biblical standard. Doing it "because it's Christmas" is doing it for the sake of tradition.
Edited because, for some reason, I keep forgetting that first "g" in 'acknowledging'. I blame Satan
Edited, Mon Nov 21 18:51:43 2005 by Jophiel
Edited because, for some reason, I keep forgetting that first "g" in 'acknowledging'. I blame Satan
Edited, Mon Nov 21 18:51:43 2005 by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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I'm sure at some point God/Jesus might be slightly pleased at choosing to worship and praise him, in any way.
no way
I think if Jesus appeared before the masses and everyone started bowing and prostrating.. that he would hold out his hand and say "Rise up and walk, morans!"
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To sam: You are picking on little excerps from my post and missing its meaning. In an above post someone stated family as his only reason for celebrating christmas. I was merely suggesting that he can visit with family anytime.
If by "little excerps[sic]" you mean, "everything I said", then we're on the same page.
As Jophiel has tried to explain to you, Christmas is not mandated by God as a high holy day. It is a tradtional holiday with religious overtones. Those overtones may be attended to in greater or lesser degree at the discretion of the celebrants.
I'm sure we all appreciate your giving us permission to visit with our families, though.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Ok, here's a link that is food for thought.
[link=null]http://www.ccg.org/english/s/p235.html[/link]
It's interesting and incidentally the same logic can apply to Christianity as a whole. Egyptian beliefs influencing old testament christian mythologies and Roman beliefs influencing new testament christian mythology.
Take it for what it is and it's an easy research subject in a library or university as well, for those that distrust internet sources.
[link=null]http://www.ccg.org/english/s/p235.html[/link]
It's interesting and incidentally the same logic can apply to Christianity as a whole. Egyptian beliefs influencing old testament christian mythologies and Roman beliefs influencing new testament christian mythology.
Take it for what it is and it's an easy research subject in a library or university as well, for those that distrust internet sources.
Catholic, celebrate Christmas, abbreviate it as X-Mas because I'm lazy, and I was taught that it was the symbolic celebration of the birth of Christ. Even most biblical scholars will tell you that it's not the day he was actually born, but if you believe in Christ at all, no better time to dwell on it since it's the end of the year, and Christ was a symbolic light brought to the world, yadda yadda.
I bet Jesus was a Pisces.
Too stubborn to be a Pisces. Probably an Aries.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
no better time to dwell on it since it's the end of the year, and Christ was a symbolic light brought to the world, yadda yadda.
Plus, it's conveniently on the Winter Solstice!
Do what now?
Danalog the Vengeful Programmer wrote:
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
no better time to dwell on it since it's the end of the year, and Christ was a symbolic light brought to the world, yadda yadda.
Plus, it's conveniently on the Winter Solstice!
The New World priests thought so, too.
1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.
Jeremiah 10:1-6 KJV
In other words, if you put up a Christmas Tree you're a heathen. Merry Christmas Mr. Bible Thumper.
By the way, Christmas isn't December 25th. The church attributed the day in honor of Christ in order to sway people who used that particular day for other religious ceremonies/celebrations. So, in essence, every Christmas happens without Christ.
2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.
Jeremiah 10:1-6 KJV
In other words, if you put up a Christmas Tree you're a heathen. Merry Christmas Mr. Bible Thumper.
By the way, Christmas isn't December 25th. The church attributed the day in honor of Christ in order to sway people who used that particular day for other religious ceremonies/celebrations. So, in essence, every Christmas happens without Christ.
FYI, that passage refers to people carving wooden idols and adorning them with gold and silver.
They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
No one really looks to their Christmas tree to speak, walk nor to work divine miracles of good or ill.
They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
No one really looks to their Christmas tree to speak, walk nor to work divine miracles of good or ill.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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No one really looks to their Christmas tree to speak, walk nor to work divine miracles of good or ill.
no, just bursting with presents. same difference.
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No one really looks to their Christmas tree to speak, walk nor to work divine miracles of good or ill.
Well, thanks for making me look stupid.
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