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#1 Nov 21 2005 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
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How many of you non-christians celebrate Christmas?

Why?

How do you justify it?

I am a non-christian who celebrates Christmas. I suppose I do because it's just what society has dictated. It's expected. Besides, I'm all for peace on earth and good will towards people.

The commercialization of it all bothers me, but I will still go Christmas shopping this year. I will still likely buy something that is not really needed, nor will be appreciated just to 'have something under the tree' for someone.
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#2 Nov 21 2005 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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tradition tradition tradtion



for waht is "religion" but an ounce spirituality stirred in with a large helping of cultural tradition?

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#3 Nov 21 2005 at 10:14 AM Rating: Good


You know, I haven't really thought about it. I was raised Christian, and I am very big on family tradition, so I like to do the holiday things that were always done ever since my childhood.

Christmas is my favorite time of year. The commercialized crap may even be part of it, which is sad. I enjoy going to the mall and seeing decorations and being blasted with Christmas Carols. I love smelling pine needles everywhere, drinking hot apple cider and egg nogg, holiday parties, the whole bit. The time period from Thanksgiving until Christmas makes me quite happy.

I -love- buying presents for people. Getting them myself is nice, but not nearly as big of a deal. I love buying them for other people very much.

So, I guess I buy into the whole commercial thing. And, I am not too sure I even justify it. Heh! I just do it because it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

#4 Nov 21 2005 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
I hate when people refer to it as X-Mas. It is Christmas if you are not a Christian and not willing to call it Christmas, then fuc[i][/i]king go to work on that day and ignore the damn holiday all together just don't start giving it lame *** names.
#5 Nov 21 2005 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I hate when people refer to it as X-Mas. It is Christmas if you are not a Christian and not willing to call it Christmas, then ******* go to work on that day and ignore the damn holiday all together just don't start giving it lame *** names.


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#7 Nov 21 2005 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
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The One and Only Proroc wrote:
I hate when people refer to it as X-Mas. It is Christmas if you are not a Christian and not willing to call it Christmas, then fuc[i][/i]king go to work on that day and ignore the damn holiday all together just don't start giving it lame *** names.
I had never really thought that using "x-mas" was done to avoid saying or writing "Christmas". Until this morning I just assumed it was an abbriviation.

Does anyone say "x-mas" versus "Christmas"? (just curious).

When I buy my CHRISTmas cards I always make sure I get ones that only say "Happy Holidays" or some crap, but I like and will sing/play/listen to many of the traditional Christmas hymns.
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#8 Nov 21 2005 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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#9 Nov 21 2005 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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I celebrate Christmas as a family holiday, not a religious day. It's like Thanksgiving with presents.

I also have Easter dinner without mention of Jesus, give out candy on Halloween, and take the day off for Columbus day even though I think he was a ****.

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#10 Nov 21 2005 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
I celebrate Christmas as a family holiday, not a religious day. It's like Thanksgiving with presents.

I also have Easter dinner without mention of Jesus, give out candy on Halloween, and take the day off for Columbus day even though I think he was a @#%^. Did I mention I was going to hell? Because I am.

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#11 Nov 21 2005 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
What I am saying is there is nothing wrong celebrating it as a commercial holiday if your are not a Christain, but atleast call it Christmas still.

Elinda - People started calling it X-mas to leave Christ out of it because they are against anything having to do with the Christian beliefs. Christmas was started because it is the Birthday of Christ and if you do not want to be associated with calling it Christmas then don't celebrate it at all.

Columbus day is recognized as a Holiday by alot of places of employment, but you don't see people running around calling it "theguywhogotlostwhilesailing Day" Do you?
#12 Nov 21 2005 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Did I mention that I'm not religious? Because I'm not.

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#13 Nov 21 2005 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Did I mention that I'm not religious? Because I'm not.

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Wave that banner high and proud all the way then. Enjoy.



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************** - People started calling it X-mas to leave Christ out of it because they are against anything having to do with the Christian beliefs. Christmas was started because it is the Birthday of Christ and if you do not want to be associated with calling it Christmas then don't celebrate it at all.
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[quote=wikipedia]Xmas (or X-mas) is an abbreviation for Christmas. It is derived from the word ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ, transliterated as Christos, which is Greek for Christ. Greek is the language in which the whole New Testament was written.

Originally, in "Xmas", X represented the Greek letter χ (see chi). It was pronounced with a hard [kh], which is the first letter of Christ's name in Greek. However, because of the modern interpretations of the letter X, many people do not know this and assume that this abbreviation is meant to drop Christ from Christmas as a means of secularization or a vehicle for political correctness.
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I like X-mas better than Christmas. It gives the holiday X-tra X-treme X-citement.
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#17 Nov 21 2005 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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#18 Nov 21 2005 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
I'm of Christian background. I wouldn't call myself a Christian, per se, but at the end of the day it's the religion I most relate with.

I celebrate Christmas for several reasons. First, the family expects it and I wouldn't want to go against something they feel is important just to be contrary. I'm a negative enough person without poopooing on their holidays just to prove that I can. I don't really care about it one way or the other. What I do care about is the family, an opportunity to get together with them and have good times together. We give gifts every year and every year it gets harder to find things, but I spend the time and effort because I want them to know that I do care. This year, as usual, I have not a damn clue what to get anyone. I'll scratch my head while I'm out on the road the next time I go on a trip.

#21 Nov 21 2005 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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This abbreviation for Christmas is of Greek origin. The word for Christ in Greek is Xristos. During the 16th century, Europeans began using the first initial of Christ's name, "X" in place of the word Christ in Christmas as a shorthand form of the word. Although the early Christians understood that X stood for Christ's name, later Christians who did not understand the Greek language mistook "Xmas" as a sign of disrespect.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas for further reading.

Christmas was the result of transliteration, so thinking that x is wrong there is more out of ignornace, or just not knowing an admittedly obscure fact.


Ya know... you could have just quoted Jacob.
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#22 Nov 21 2005 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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Same as Nexa, I'm not Christian and I celebrate all those days just as a holiday. My family says grace at Thanksgiving but none of us go to church. (a Christian one anyway) I love wrapping gifts and the smell of trees and now I finally have an of-age kid that will get excited over gifts.

I am so on it this year. I've only got 4 people left to shop for and its only a matter of going out and getting the things. Got most of it done last weekend. Got three shipments in from Amazon already, woot! No more "where the fark are my packages?!?!?!" panicking during last week of Christmas!
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#24 Nov 21 2005 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nig[yellow]ger_(word)

So it is ok to go around calling black people this because eventhough people take offense to it the real meaning of the word was never meant to be offensive?



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#25 Nov 21 2005 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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Same here TStephens, my hubby is hard to shop for. I was going to buy him a computer chair until my mother-in-law stole my idea when I asked if they could go buy it for me (too heavy being pregnant). Then I thought while watching Apprentice that an XM radio would be perfect, only we don't GET XM radio in Hawaii. So ghey.
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#26 Nov 21 2005 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
Elinda wrote:
How many of you non-christians celebrate Christmas?

Why?

How do you justify it?


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