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#102 Nov 22 2005 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good


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When we have achieved our objectives


And what objectives are those?

#103 Nov 22 2005 at 1:09 PM Rating: Default
Tactically we are winning, Strategically, we are winning, Politically, we are DOA, because Bush and his guys cant put together a clear explanation that cant be spun be leftists, and Bush bashers. (Hey Commander In Chief, remember Public Speaking 101?). And not going there in the first place, so we should have left Saddam inpower till he did actually do something horrible? Kept spending billions enforcing the No Fly Zone? Wait for the UN to pass yet ANOTHER resolution asking Saddam to comlply? You know when i was over there last year, I asked one of our translators what he was going to do when we left and he said "Why would you leave?" They really depend on us for stability and order right now. They are on a whole great people who just want to live thier lives just like us. I think they only place we are losing is the same way we lost Vietnam, in the media and idealogues who are still hot about the elections. And while 2 of the 2000 dead are my buddies, those 2000 are way less than other wars and most of those deaths are not combat related, unless u count IEDs. Im really frightened of what will happen to the military and the country if people are too scared to see a military campaign thru to victory, I'm not afraid to die in theatre, I knew the risks inherit in a military career, and so does my wife, who will be taken care of if something happens to me.
#104 Nov 22 2005 at 1:12 PM Rating: Good
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Tactically we are winning, Strategically, we are winning, Politically, we are DOA, because Bush and his guys cant put together a clear explanation that cant be spun be leftists, and Bush bashers. (Hey Commander In Chief, remember Public Speaking 101?). And not going there in the first place, so we should have left Saddam inpower till he did actually do something horrible? Kept spending billions enforcing the No Fly Zone? Wait for the UN to pass yet ANOTHER resolution asking Saddam to comlply? You know when i was over there last year, I asked one of our translators what he was going to do when we left and he said "Why would you leave?" They really depend on us for stability and order right now. They are on a whole great people who just want to live thier lives just like us. I think they only place we are losing is the same way we lost Vietnam, in the media and idealogues who are still hot about the elections. And while 2 of the 2000 dead are my buddies, those 2000 are way less than other wars and most of those deaths are not combat related, unless u count IEDs. Im really frightened of what will happen to the military and the country if people are too scared to see a military campaign thru to victory, I'm not afraid to die in theatre, I knew the risks inherit in a military career, and so does my wife, who will be taken care of if something happens to me.
Sign up to go back then, pu[b][/b]ssy.
#105 Nov 22 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good


You are assuming that Saddam was a great threat to us to begin with.

Are you ignoring the possibility that pre-war intelligence was altered? Or maybe that certain things were played up by people in power to press us into a war with Iraq? I don't think possibilities such as those can be ignored, and if it is the case, how can it be justified?

#106 Nov 22 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Default
WTF are u talking about??? i am going back this year ***. Why dont u go burn a flag or something. Im a ***** cuz I am in the military?
#107 Nov 22 2005 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
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Are you ignoring the possibility that pre-war intelligence was altered? Or maybe that certain things were played up by people in power to press us into a war with Iraq?
Yes, he is. It's the only way he can sleep at night knowing he was helping drop bombs and white phosphorous on civilians.
#108 Nov 22 2005 at 1:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Are you ignoring the possibility that pre-war intelligence was altered? Or maybe that certain things were played up by people in power to press us into a war with Iraq?
Yes, he is. It's the only way he can sleep at night knowing he was helping drop bombs and white phosphorous on civilians.


They're not civilians if they're brown!
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#109 Nov 22 2005 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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WTF are u talking about??? i am going back this year ***. Why dont u go burn a flag or something. Im a ***** cuz I am in the military?
Taking a break while there is still work to be done? Lazy fu[b][/b]ck. Think of how many nude pyrimids are not getting made while you are away.
#110 Nov 22 2005 at 1:17 PM Rating: Default
U know this Prewar intel crap, there is no Proof of this, and if it is true, then how did we falsify intel from foreign intel agencies? I guess Bush can do anything then. And we have found chemical weapons over there but Mustard/Nerve agents aren't considered WMDs by the UN anymore. There are pics out on the web showing proof of this.
#111REDACTED, Posted: Nov 22 2005 at 1:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Kelvy,
#112 Nov 22 2005 at 1:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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U know this Prewar intel crap, there is no Proof of this,


Yeah, I banned him
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#113 Nov 22 2005 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
foxUSMC wrote:
U know this Prewar intel crap, there is no Proof of this, and if it is true, then how did we falsify intel from foreign intel agencies? I guess Bush can do anything then. And we have found chemical weapons over there but Mustard/Nerve agents aren't considered WMDs by the UN anymore. There are pics out on the web showing proof of this.
Was there any white phosphorous? Huh, was there?
#114 Nov 22 2005 at 1:18 PM Rating: Default
HEy ***** u *******, bet ur feeling real good bout urself behind ur keyboard. Ur a real man.
#115 Nov 22 2005 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't think that the soldiers there are really concerned about "justifacation" and "political motives"..

after al, they are already there.. it doesn't amke a **** of difference either way.



I think that each soldier developes their own rationale on a more personal level as to why they are fighting and willing to die..

You tell them that it's for This or That.. BLAHBLAHB it's not going to make a differnce.. They are doing the job that they were asked to do.

You start telling them "you are theere for the wrong reasons!!" I suspect they would say somthing along the lines of "WTF do you know about reasons?"

They are in their own world, and people who are NOT fighting are in another one. We can afford to be criticle about the War and the administrations....

They cannot.. at the risk of believing that they are there for nothing.

You have to do everything you can to make good waht is bad. no matter waht it is.

Edited, Tue Nov 22 13:32:04 2005 by Kelvyquayo
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#116 Nov 22 2005 at 1:19 PM Rating: Default
What White phosphorous? Ur a freakin moron, yeah we really call in WP on civvies. You got me! oh damn better change my tactics.
#117 Nov 22 2005 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good


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Im a @#%^ cuz I am in the military


Whoa there, calm down and un-wad your panties. I don't think he is anti-military, he just seems anti-you.

Carry on.


#118 Nov 22 2005 at 1:21 PM Rating: Good
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U know this Prewar intel crap, there is no Proof of this, and if it is true, then how did we falsify intel from foreign intel agencies?
Stuff I'd like to know too. It's too bad that my senator, Susan 'fu[b][/b]cking hack' Collins wont start an investigation.
#119 Nov 22 2005 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
um ok read his other posts, not anitmilitary huh? what world do u live in?
#120REDACTED, Posted: Nov 22 2005 at 1:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is precisely why the Dems, and specifically the liberals, have lost any semblence of control in the govn. With the mass mediums the mainstream media isn't able to shield their stupidity like they once did.
#121 Nov 22 2005 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
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What White phosphorous? Ur a freakin moron, yeah we really call in WP on civvies. You got me! oh damn better change my tactics.
Actually, you* did. In falluja.

*And no, I'm not implying that you did it yourself.
#122 Nov 22 2005 at 1:23 PM Rating: Default
I dont care what party hes in, hes an idiot, and i would love to meet him face to face, or wait, how bout some coordinates, ill just call in my "white phosphourus bombs" on him.
#123 Nov 22 2005 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
foxUSMC wrote:
um ok read his other posts, not anitmilitary huh? what world do u live in?
I'm not anti military. I'm anti pointless military action. I'm anti stupid fu[b][/b]cks who blindly support it simply to justify their existance.
#124 Nov 22 2005 at 1:24 PM Rating: Good


Just to clarify, I am not really sure it was used on civilians, per se, I think it was more lobbed into the air to illuminate without regard as to where it would land. Which can amount to the same thing.

#125REDACTED, Posted: Nov 22 2005 at 1:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Katarine,
#126 Nov 22 2005 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
And for the record, I take back calling you a pu[b][/b]ssy.
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