democrats finding their balls......Follow

after much searching and many years with their hands in their pants, dems are finnally starting to find where their balls have been hiding.

murtha stood up and called the kettle black. american troops ARE the problem in iraq. american troops ARE the catalyst for the violance.

something any iraqi citizen, or just about any human being in the middle east could have told them BEFORE the war started. something Bush Sr wrote would be the problem YEARS BEFORE the war started. to bad Jr cant read.

it is a sad state of affairs that people we elect will not stand up for what they beleive in, untill poll numbers start to push their way.

Kerry lost because he had no integrity. every time the poll numbers took a turn, so did his stand on any given subject. Bush, atleast, stood his ground adn pushed his line irreguardless of the polls. he atleast stood up and fought fo rwhat he believed in, irreguardless of how illconcieved and ignorant his decision was.

i am not going to applaud Murtha for his actions. instead, i will put the blame for much of what has happened to this country on his sholders, and the sholders of every other poll surfing politician in the whitehouse, democrat and republican alike.

while they were fiddeling around in their pants waiting for poll numbers to sho them where to find themselves, tens of thousands of human beings have been butcherd, the international standing of this once great country is in the sewer, and we are walking away from our responsibility for the needy sending or moral standing down the drain with the rest of this country.

no kudos from me. where the hell were you sniveling cowards when this country needed you?

I like cashews.

While I made a post yesterday that sorta said Democrats needed to, erm, "find some balls," I am not sure the answer is to pull our troops out now. In fact, I am pretty sure that is not the answer.

True that. He was probably raiding the ship kitchen and throwing the teabags over board.

"Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Bush!"

While I made a post yesterday that sorta said Democrats needed to, erm, "find some balls," I am not sure the answer is to pull our troops out now. In fact, I am pretty sure that is not the answer.
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that may not be the american answer, but it is the muslim answer. the spinn you see comming from the whitehouse has you believeing iraq will be destroyed if we leave.

iraq was a functioning country all on its own centruys before america was.

what will be destroyed is everything we have touched. iraq will be rebuilt in their immage, not ours. weather we pull out now, or 10 years from now, that will not change.

this is a muslim problem, it needs a muslim solution, not an american one. the only thing we can accomplish is to create a continuing state of instability. WE CAN NOT bring peace to iraq. no non-muslim force can...cept mabe china. put 3 million boots on the ground with orders to shoot first, dont bother with questions at all, would pretty much end it in a heatbeat.

it does not matter when we pull out. the results will be the same. what we touched will be destroyed. the people we delt with will be killed or exiled. weather it is now, or 10 years from now will make no differance.

this needs a muslim solution.

pettition the league of arab nations to put together an international MUSLIM peacekeeping force. work with the muslim members of the U.N., NATO, and Iraq,s neibhors. without the support of Iraq,s neibhors, nothing we put together will stand. include Jordan, Syeria, Iran.

there can be peace in Iraq, but it cant even start untill we leave. and it doesnt matter if that is tomarrow, or 10 years from now. untill we do, all we will accomplish is to prepetuate a cycle of violance that butchers thousands of human beings every year untill we get over ourselves and our importance to the middle east.

Syeria,s solution to Lebonon through the leage of arab nations is a perfect example. they CAN do it themselves...if we let them.

How do you know the Muslim answer? Just curious.


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Curious also if the Muslim answer is the one that should be sought or would it be the Iraqi answer?





Edited, Fri Nov 18 11:18:47 2005 by Elinda

so how is Civ 4 anyway?

worth getting?

I'm curious too. It's on Jav's x-mas list. (I'm always hip on getting him gifts that I can make good use of too. )

Kataphraktoi vs Woodsmen = Muslims slapping down Poland and taking it to the Hapsburgs.

Yes. I never play as the darkies.

Back in civ2, I'd rename my civilization the damned (or something like that, it's been awhile). I also renamed all my cities along hellish lines. All demons and such. Made things more interesting that way.

Sadly, civ3 allows you to rename units and cities, but not your civilization itself. Haven't had a chance to play around with civ4 yet...