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#1 Nov 17 2005 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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President Bush's positive job rating continues to fall, touching another new low for his presidency, the latest Harris Interactive poll finds.

Bush's current job approval rating stands at 34%, compared with a positive rating of 88% soon after 9/11, 50% at this time last year, and 40% in August.


Now thats nothing new, its what the same poll found out that you are going to love

At the same time, only a quarter of Americans polled give Democrats a positive rating in the latest poll, compared with 31% in August, while Republicans' approval ratings fell to 27% from 32%.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB113216347138199155-5Z1Ri_om8ITUbV_jD2bx6maguMY_20061116.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top

So while Bush has public approval only marginally better than Nixon after Watergate he is still doing better than the Dems.

Edited, Thu Nov 17 12:48:33 2005 by bodhisattva

Edited, Thu Nov 17 12:57:37 2005 by bodhisattva
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#2 Nov 17 2005 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
thats scary.
#3 Nov 17 2005 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
That is a swift kick in the nuts for the Democrats. "Bush is horrible and has ruined the worlds view of America and the defeceit is at an all time high, blah blah blah...but you Democrats, still suck."
#4 Nov 17 2005 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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The best thing the dems can do is shut up and let Bush sink himself. I think we all know how polarizing it is when Kennedy or Dean gets up on a pulpit and starts trying to tear them down.

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#5 Nov 17 2005 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
People like Kennedy and Dean are why I more often find myself agreeing with the Republican party than Democrats.

They're such complete asshats that I find it hard to have any respect at all for a party that is willing to call them members, much less leaders.

Not the the Republican party has much to brag about at the moment, heh.


We need a good 3rd party.
#6 Nov 17 2005 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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Exactly, you have polarizing elements such as Kennedy, Dean, Hilary etc that come out and start talking about the evils of the Shrub Administration. People know that Shrub is a f[/b]uck up but they rather will side with him because he at least he seems friendly and you would rather side with him even if he is a f[b]uck up than any of those evil dems.

The Dems need to find some middle of the road guys who speak sense and people dont have preconceived notions of.

If you have a dem come out and say "I believe Bush has done this and this wrong and this is why, here is what I propose" in a calm collected tone, then people would be more likely to take the step over rather than Dean screaming with a red face "IT WAS A WAR FOR OIL, COMEON PEOPLE ARE YOU TO STUPID TO SEE IT RAAAAAWR!!!".

That is exactly how Bush got elected, he said "I'll bring back dignity and not stoop to political attacks. Look at my work as texas governor, I reached out to democrats and did some important things both sides could agree on" of course time has shown that he didnt bring dignity or play clean but still it was a message that america wanted to hear.

Edited, Thu Nov 17 13:16:47 2005 by bodhisattva
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#7 Nov 17 2005 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Dean screaming with a red face "IT WAS A WAR FOR OIL, COMEON PEOPLE ARE YOU TO STUPID TO SEE IT RAAAAAWR!!!".



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#8 Nov 17 2005 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good

Actually, what annoys me about the Democratic Party is that it seems no one is willing to -do- anything. Some people are willing to say "the war sucks," yet they have no solution of their own. What are they going to do differently?

Watching Harry Reid on CNN a few weeks ago after that closed session actually made me glad. I felt like a democrat might actually be doing something. He was pissed off, and he was passionate. I had this reaction of "democrats need to talk like that more often."

During the election, Kerry and Edwards both seemed afraid to really speak their mind about the war. I think it worked against them, because it gave the impression that they would just do the same thing Bush is doing.

Edit: One thing I have been curious about with ratings, is how Bush's various ratings compare to other president's at different times. I can only seem to find small amounts of info on it. For instance, who had the worst approval rating ever?



Edited, Thu Nov 17 13:59:11 2005 by Katarine
#9 Nov 17 2005 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I actually agree with bohdi on this one....I've said it since the beginning.

The left keeps pushing and pushing and the American people will rather have someone who is at least doing something rather than someone is just ******** about everything.

The next Dem president will be the one who is able to move away from Kennedy, Dean, and Hilary.


But, no matter who it ends up being, people will *****. That's what we do.
#10 Nov 17 2005 at 2:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Edit: One thing I have been curious about with ratings, is how Bush's various ratings compare to other president's at different times. I can only seem to find small amounts of info on it. For instance, who had the worst approval rating ever?
Per some CNN Sidebar, Truman at 22% during one point.

Edited, Thu Nov 17 14:24:48 2005 by Jophiel
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#11 Nov 17 2005 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
Jophiel wrote:
Katarine wrote:
Edit: One thing I have been curious about with ratings, is how Bush's various ratings compare to other president's at different times. I can only seem to find small amounts of info on it. For instance, who had the worst approval rating ever?
Per some CNN Sidebar, Truman at 22% during one point.

Edited, Thu Nov 17 14:24:48 2005 by Jophiel


I was thinking "Carter" but he was from GA, I was from GA, and my Dad hated him when he got into office and my meories from that age are all skewed by the limited input available.
#12 Nov 17 2005 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good


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I was thinking "Carter" but he was from GA, I was from GA, and my Dad hated him when he got into office and my meories from that age are all skewed by the limited input available.


My stepmother is from Atlanta, and it is interesting when Carter gets brought up in conversation. I had no idea he was so hated.



#13 Nov 17 2005 at 4:26 PM Rating: Good
He was a peanut farmer who sold out peanut farmers in his legislation. In a big way.

I was born in '72. My dad (a farmer) made a good profit in '71, a little bit in '72, and lost money every year thereafter until the late 80s. Not through lack of work, or mismanagement, but because times were that tough for small farmers. A lot of the reason why was in how Carter handled certain things involving subsidy payments to farmers. He caused a lot of small farm bankruptcies. I know we were close, real close a couple of times. My parents even talked about a divorce to try to save my mom from having to shoulder payments after a bankruptcy and to keep the house. My dad worked 7 days a week those years. When he couldn't farm, he fished, trapper beaver and fox, or occasionally even went to a card game to bring home money. (I could really relate to Little House on the Prairie at times.)

Carter has been a good ambassador, but he was a really crappy President. Nobody expected special favors, but what he gave his own "people" was a good fuc[/i]king. A lot of people lost their livelihoods because he bungled so much. So no, he isn't the most popular man in GA.
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Carter has been a good ambassador, but he was a really crappy President.
Heh, when you see/read interviews with him today, he pretty much says the same thing about himself -- he's a much better ex-president than he was president.
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#15 Nov 17 2005 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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That is exactly how Bush got elected, he said "I'll bring back dignity and not stoop to political attacks. Look at my work as texas governor, I reached out to democrats and did some important things both sides could agree on" of course time has shown that he didnt bring dignity or play clean but still it was a message that america wanted to hear.
Karl Rove's vicious smear campaign against Kerry had nothing to do with it, I'm sure. Neither did the fact that Bush played on every xenophobic fear Americans ever had throughout his campaign.
#16 Nov 17 2005 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
Heh, Kerry really didn't offer anything. I wanteed another candidate out there to vote for, but Bush was the only choice. It was that or not voting and to not vote is to avoid the issue, basically shirking your duty to your fellow citizens and yourself.

Woulda loved to vote for McCain. Still would, too.
#17 Nov 17 2005 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
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HOw about this?


We have 2 governments, 2 sets of laws... and wahtever party you are registered with.. that is waht law applies to you. EH?

OR,
make all the RED states have thier "GOP!!YEHAWWW!!" government, and and the BLUE states can be ruled from Tameny fu[b][/b]ckin' Hall!

It's Win/Win!!
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