Intelligent designFollow

Sorry, couldn't formulate a response, laughing too hard.

-Nagafen

When I was in University, a Catholic University in NYC, I took a class called “God, The Universe and Science.” 9 credits worth of theology was required for graduation. The basic premise is that when you look deep into the patterns of science and the order of the universe and things there must be a God who designed it all. When I first heard about Intelligent Design, my first thought was they must be talking about the same stuff as this class. The first thing they taught in this class was that the fundamental proximate of Judeo-Christian religion is faith, and if you could prove God exists then you cannot have faith and therefore God must have designed the universe as such that you could never prove he exists. That seems right, not that I personally belive in all or any of it, but as a religious theory its was certainly better than what I read in the papers is Catholic belief.

I was not sure why this should be taught in schools as an alternative to Evolution as the class taught that science is good, we should embrace it and all it can teach us, and the order of things is just the “fingerprint of God” as the professor said it, not actual proof of Gods existence. When I read what these ID kooks are supporting I knew they were talking about something different. Although the ID theories are not that far off from what this class taught, it has been twisted in an anti-Evolution and anti-Science manner that IMHO goes against the whole point of their argument.

If there is an Intelligent design to the universe would not it be through science and evolution that it is achieved not instead of it?

By in large, most of the Americans here feel it's silly and unscientific. Those who disagree argue mainly on philosophical grounds such as Totem saying that Evolution is really a religion.

In positive news, the Pennsylvania school board who approved it was voted out and replaced with all Democrats Now, onward to Kansas!

Shouldn't take long.

I think this is all Kelvy's fault.

I think it's retarded as well, to try to put into science classes that is...


The big argument from these people, is that evolution as well is not fully grounded and must be taken with "faith" as well.


personally I think that it's inevitable that science must clash with philosphy now and again... esspecially with waht we are finding out through quantum physics.. but that's another thread..


Evolution does not involve some unseen higher consciousness... such as ID intonnates... so NO, I don't think that it belongs in a science class...

ALTHOUGH to ban "mentioning" it, i think may be a but extreme. Then again, not all are as open minded.

I hope ohter Ned Flanders wannabees take note of what happened in Pennsylvania and keep religion and education seperate!

How many times do we have to go over this fu[b][/b]cking topic....

I don't understand Gay Marriage, therefore God must have designed it.

I'm a proponent of IGM

Maybe some of us only read this board occasionally and do not scan every post.

Bleh! Do not get technical with me. Thats really unfair showing me a search tool I was too lazy to look for