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#1 Nov 15 2005 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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I can't imagine going through this type of thing. Being slowly eaten alive while awake by ants!! Wasn't that some form of torture/punishment befoer the dark ages or something?


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KOLKATA, India (Reuters) - A woman receiving treatment for diabetes at a state-run hospital in eastern India lost one of her eyes after ants nibbled away at it, officials said on Tuesday.

The patient recovering from a post-surgery infection shrieked for help as the ants attacked her on Sunday night, but nurses told her it was normal to feel pain from the infection.

On Monday, the patient's family saw a gaping hole with swarming ants in it when they lifted the bandage on her left eye.

Authorities of the Sambhunath Hospital in Kolkata said they were probing the incident.

"It's not uncommon for ants to attack diabetic patients. We have set up a committee to investigate the unfortunate incident," hospital superintendent A. Adhikary said.

Scampering rats and stray cats and dogs sharing bed space with patients are not uncommon sights at India's overcrowded state-run hospitals that are used by millions of poor and middle-class people.
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#2 Nov 15 2005 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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Oddly enough, in parts of Africa that is considered a rite of passage. Strapping young lads are tied to ant hills on their way to becoming a man.
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#3 Nov 15 2005 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, but they don't have their eye eaten away do they? Didn't think so.

These conditions are shameful and the "nurses" who ignored her cries should be summarily shot.
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Authorities of the Sambhunath Hospital in Kolkata said they were probing the incident


I now have an image of them actually probing the eye socket. Thanks.
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Yeah, but they don't have their eye eaten away do they? Didn't think so.

These conditions are shameful and the "nurses" who ignored her cries should be summarily shot.
No, they don't usually lose their eyes; however, it isn't unheard of for some of them to die from the poison.

I agree that this sort of thing is shameful, yet you might be surprised at the frequency similar situations occur here in the US as well. Particularly in elderly housing facilities.
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Even in the United States, many nurses become so not out of a natural urge to care for the sick, but out of greed for the higher-end starting salaries. It's a pretty good career wherever you choose to go, and I have a feeling this nurse doesn't have much of a vocation. Most hospitals are so under-staffed, they hire whomever they can. I wonder about her family. Why didn't they insist she get medical attention?
Of course the laws in India are probably much different and I'm not sure she could have done much about it short of becoming wealthy and having herself moved to a private institution.
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The Big Book of British Smiles... , now that is the definition of torture.
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Most hospitals are so under-staffed, they hire whomever they can.


Woefully true, especially in this country. My mother is a nurse, you should hear some of the stories she's tried to avoid telling over the years. (She has this grace that I don't. Namely, she doesn't like to point fingers at guilty parties while I'm only too happy to do so.)


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I wonder about her family. Why didn't they insist she get medical attention?
IIRC from the story, they discovered the ants the next day when they visited and opened the bandaging themselves when she complained about the pain.
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Bah. It's merely cultural relativism. One woman's post surgical ant therapy is another woman's coming-of-age ceremony.

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Besides, ants, maggots, leeches, what's the difference? It's all good universal health care in my book!

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Bah. It's merely cultural relativism. One woman's post surgical ant therapy is another woman's coming-of-age ceremony.

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Pining? Second time I've seen you mention Smash today, hehe.

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I keep hoping, Nexa. However, I remain convinced he hit one of those Boston/New York illicit poker clubs, met A-Rod there, got into some kind of wierd gambling related co-dependancy relationship, whereupon Alex losing millions due to Smash's horrible poker advice, proceeded to break his kneecaps and bury him next to Jimmy Hoffa in New Jersey.

That's my working theory at any rate...

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#14 Nov 15 2005 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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Besides, ants, maggots, leeches, what's the difference? It's all good universal health care in my book!

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I keep hoping, Nexa. However, I remain convinced he hit one of those Boston/New York illicit poker clubs, met A-Rod there, got into some kind of wierd gambling related co-dependancy relationship, whereupon Alex losing millions due to Smash's horrible poker advice, proceeded to break his kneecaps and bury him next to Jimmy Hoffa in New Jersey.

That's my working theory at any rate...

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Well I knows diff'ent, but I aitn't saying nut'n.

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On Monday, the patient's family saw a gaping hole with swarming ants in it when they lifted the bandage on her left eye.


I really didn't need to hear that. No dinner tonight. Smiley: frown
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#17 Nov 15 2005 at 9:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Can you prove that the nurse in this story was receiving orders from her superiors regarding this patient? In fact, since the patient was a civilian in the hospital of her own free will there's no indication she was under any sort of special legal status at all.

There's no way you can call what she went through "torture". At most, it's "patient abuse". Really though, it's about the same as you'd find at any college frat house where young men dress up in women's underwear, form naked pyramids and tie one another to ant mounds. Calling her experience "torture" is pure rhetoric and spin. Silly really. But maybe that's just me.
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I would think the "torture" reference would be a calling for aid, but the way the article reads, is almost as if this sort of thing happens all the time.
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"It's not uncommon for ants to attack diabetic patients. We have set up a committee to investigate the unfortunate incident," hospital superintendent A. Adhikary said.


Hell, they even go so far as to imply that ants have a judgemental bias tward diabetic patients and feed on them frequently.

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I'll bet she looked bug-eyed when the doctor told her the news.
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Guys. There's no way of telling yet if this was just an isolated incident (which I bet it was). But we have a system in place for it already. Has there been any claims of ants eating people since this was reported? No. So why keep talking about it? Pure spin. This committee is nothing but the media letting this get out of hand. Heh. But if you like rhetoric, I guess you love this stuff.
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Guys. There's no way of telling yet if this was just an isolated incident (which I bet it was). But we have a system in place for it already. Has there been any claims of ants eating people since this was reported? No. So why keep talking about it? Pure spin. This committee is nothing but the media letting this get out of hand. Heh. But if you like rhetoric, I guess you love this stuff.


What? So you are going to sit there and tell me you never had ants in your pants?

I could make a complaint for that right now....but I wont.

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Hell, they even go so far as to imply that ants have a judgemental bias tward diabetic patients and feed on them frequently.


Some ants feed on sugars. If her blood-glucose was high enough, I could see any seeping from the eye, post-surgery, attracting ants.

The thing I don't get is why didnt anyone see the long line of ants running from the nest to the lady's eyesocket. The ants had to come from somewhere.


Unless maybe it was Intelligent Design and God..err a "higher intelligence"... created the ants in her eyesocket.
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#23 Nov 16 2005 at 5:21 AM Rating: Good
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This thread needs pictures.


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