Teddy R. said it bestFollow

On the up side, when he does say something I can agree with he can be counted on to be a moron in other threads.

Listen, eld, if we needed lessons on how the be an emasculated northern neighbor of the most powerful nation on the face of the planet, we'd know right where to turn. Until Mexico can drag itself out of the depression-esque funque its stuck itself in I don't think we have anything to worry about. You guys go on with your blissfully ignorant of real pressures society and we'll keep being the big stick you hide behind if **** hits the fan. After all, we can't have anything bad happen to the 51st state/alpha site.

Thanks for clarifying that, I was under the impression that it was due to American policy and/or propiganda trying to force people to give up their heritages and become 'Americanized', causing an uproar in some ethnic groups who decided they would have to fight for their right to their cultures and get all **** about what they are called.

I was obviously incorrect in my presumption, I am glad we got that all cleared up. I'd hate to think of America as non-accepting of anything non-Amercian.

Indeed one could make that arguement. My point was simply that the -American appellation was one created for them, not one they took with them from Liberia in the 1700's. I won't make claims as to when it started, but I don't think I was aware of a public "movement" to use the phrase until the early-mid 80's.

That's the difference between Canadians and Americans, I think.

Canadian definition of pwning:

http://www.multied.com/1812/Washington.html

US defintion of pwning:

http://www.ettnet.se/~stefan-a/hiroshima/mini001.jpg

http://www.ettnet.se/~stefan-a/hiroshima/mini005.jpg



Edited, Mon Nov 14 16:06:26 2005 by Lefein

So for all you naysayers, you'd prefer to see more of a United States of Canada, eh? French, English, and Nanook all spoken here. Make the road signs all bilingual while we are at it.

Well, you see where it got them-- frickin' cold, living off of whale blubber, and those a$$es from Gaybec always politicing for succession. No thanks.

Totem

Your nationality/citizenship are different than your cultural ancestry. I am a dual citizen of Peru and of the United States. When asked if I am American, I say yes. When asked if I am Peruvian, I say the same. When asked what my citizenship is on an application, I check the box that says I am a United States citizen.
When asked to identify myself as a race, I say mestizo. When asked to identify my ancestry, culture, etc., I say am Peruvian. If you leave Canada and live in Germany for 50 years, I bet you would still think of yourself as Canadian (better you than me) because it's where you were raised, and where you became aware of yourself as an individual in society. It doesn't detract from my experience as an American. In fact, I thank God I am priviledged enough to have had the immigrant experience. I value this country for what it is worth, but I also love my nation of origin.

I remember once I had a discussion with someone about the practice of changing your name after marriage. They said that they considered it a no-brainer, that a woman should take her husband's name. I said I had never thought that I would, because to me, my last name is just as important to pass on as a man's, and I would love to keep it as part of my identity. I wouldn't expect a man to change his last name to mine, so why would I lose my name? I feel the same about citizenship. Yes, the United States is a wonderful country that has given me much, but Peru is the cradle of all my history as a person, and that has its place as well. I'm sure it will be easier for subsequent generations, but that is my cross to bear as a first-generation immigrant.

You can skim over and ignore it all you want since your entire reason for popping by any more seems to be spurning intelligent discourse at all costs to engage in sh;t-trollery with the underlings, but your point was still wrong, as I so adeptly pointed out. Clear, but wrong none the less.

My parents just moved to Minnesota. Long story, I am not a fan of the move, but regardless, I see them more now. She has taken to her old ways of admonishing brilliance with her little "everyone's entitled to their opinions" speach. Now that I am old enough to do it without fear of a boxed ear, I can disregard her ramblings because what I have always know is still true today, that you are entitled to your opinion in no way presumes that it will not a) suck, b) be a gross oversimplification of a complex issue that borders on myopia, c) be dead wrong or d) all of the above. Welcome to d).

I have always believed that the worst enemy of rational though were it's supporters.

Why?

Hey, at least you get it.