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#1 Nov 11 2005 at 3:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051110/tc_nm/sony_hack_dc

So some ******* in marketing thinks to himself "hey, we can hide our copy protection software using spyware tactics! yay! i'll get a promotion, and the millions of comouter users out there won't notice the performance decrease on their computers every time they play a cd... nooo, that couldn't happen. But wait? what if someone hijacks our spyware sneakyness and uses it for evil? nah...

1 week later:

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - A computer security firm said on Thursday it had discovered the first virus that uses music publisher Sony BMG's (6758.T) controversial CD copy-protection software to hide on PCs and wreak havoc.

Under a subject line containing the words "Photo approval," a hacker has mass-mailed the so-called Stinx-E trojan virus to British email addresses, said British anti-virus firm Sophos.

When recipients click on an attachment, they install malware, which may tear down a computer's firewall and give hackers access to a PC. The malware hides by using Sony BMG software that is also hidden -- the software would have been installed on a computer when consumers played Sony's copy-protected music CDs.

"This leaves Sony in a real tangle. It was already getting bad press about its copy-protection software, and this new hack exploit will make it even worse," said Sophos's Graham Cluley.

Later on Thursday, security software firm Symantec Corp. (Nasdaq:SYMC - news) also discovered the first trojans to abuse the security flaw in Sony BMG's copy-protection software. A trojan is a program that appears desirable but actually contains something harmful.

Sony BMG's spokesman John McKay in New York was not immediately available to comment.

The music publishing venture of Japanese electronics conglomerate Sony Corp. (6758.T) and Germany's Bertelsmann AG (BERT.UL) is distributing the copy-protection software on a range of recent music compact disks (CDs) from artists such as Celine Dion and Sarah McLachlan.

When the CD is played on a Windows personal computer, the software first installs itself and then limits the usage rights of a consumer. It only allows playback with Sony software.

The software sparked a class action lawsuit against Sony in California last week, claiming that Sony has not informed consumers that it installs software directly into the "roots" of their computer systems with rootkit software, which cloaks all associated files and is dangerous to remove.

Sophos said it would have a tool to disable the copy protection software available later on Thursday.

Sony BMG made a patch available on its Web site on Tuesday that rids a PC from the "cloaking" element that is part of the copy-protection software, while claiming that "the component is not malicious and does not compromise security."

The patch does not disable the copy protection itself.

The Sony copy-protection software does not install itself on Macintosh computers or ordinary CD and DVD players.
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#2 Nov 11 2005 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
Ah the lovely and devestating snowball effect.
#3 Nov 11 2005 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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a range of recent music compact disks (CDs) from artists such as Celine Dion and Sarah McLachlan
Don't they count as viruses in themselves?
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#4 Nov 11 2005 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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a range of recent music compact disks (CDs) from artists such as Celine Dion and Sarah McLachlan
Don't they count as viruses in themselves?


They both are Canadian so maybe.
#6 Nov 11 2005 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
Why aren't people mad that Windows can create hidden directories without informing the user?

Please, Im in no way defending Sonys BS at all, but it makes you wonder if this is the only instance of such an exploitation.. God, Windows is such fuc[/u]king garbage!
#8 Nov 11 2005 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
touche.. You're right I was talking out of my ***** but do you think MS will make a patch before the Linux community does if this exploit were targeted at Linux users?
#9 Nov 11 2005 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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You can also have some fun with alternate data streams in NTFS if you like hiding things.
#10 Nov 11 2005 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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You can also have some fun with alternate data streams in NTFS if you like hiding things.



Um, wow. You learn something new every day.
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#11 Nov 11 2005 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
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Lord xythex wrote:
Um, wow. You learn something new every day.


Not me. Smiley: frown
#12 Nov 11 2005 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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Not me.


It's ok. It's very naughty, very very naughty and dirty. It would soil your gleaming white persona Smiley: smile
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#14 Nov 11 2005 at 5:36 PM Rating: Good
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Not me.


It's ok. It's very naughty, very very naughty and dirty. It would soil your gleaming white persona Smiley: smile


You never let me have any fun.
#15 Nov 11 2005 at 6:23 PM Rating: Good
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Mac and linux allow this, too, FYI. The hiding directories and masking them from the system. I can hide half your linux box from you with a couple commands if I wanted.


Yeah. But the difference is that the decision to show the hidden files is based on the command line flags used at any given time by the user, rather then stored as a value in each directory. Windows does make finding hidden files annoyingly difficult.
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#17 Nov 12 2005 at 12:16 AM Rating: Decent
I'll add to Kao's post,

Some MMORPG hackers hide their software behind sony's rootkit to protect them from the scans some MMO's have (World of Warcraft, Linage series for example)

#18 Nov 12 2005 at 1:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Mac and linux allow this, too, FYI. The hiding directories and masking them from the system. I can hide half your linux box from you with a couple commands if I wanted.


true, but you can not do that to root as user like this rootkit does from a CD that the "user" installs and runs.

so what if you hide half of my users files, root can get that information back in no time at all.

windows on the other hand with 99.9% of users out there running with administrative rights on their system just so they can do anything means that they are having to deal with this fubar due to the 1 simple fact that NOT ONE MICROSOFT OPERATING SYSTEMS IS A TRUE MULTI-USER PLATFORM. no matter what MS claims.

Linux on the other hand was built from the ground up with security, scalability, and multi-user functionality at its core.

big differance.

also yes there are several root kits out there for linux, but there are enough clear to understand apps out there to detect and remove them too unlike in the windows world.
#19 Nov 12 2005 at 1:41 AM Rating: Decent
3 viruses now found:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4430608.stm

and up to 6 class action suits against Sony Corp. very very very glad to see them getting the short end of the stick for a change.
#20 Nov 12 2005 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
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3 viruses now found:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4430608.stm

and up to 6 class action suits against Sony Corp. very very very glad to see them getting their just desserts for a change.


Accuritized that fer ya.
#21 Nov 12 2005 at 1:50 PM Rating: Decent
cheers thanks
#22 Nov 13 2005 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good


This is interesting as well.

#23 Nov 13 2005 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
and one more link to add to the frey.


http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27426
#24 Nov 13 2005 at 4:09 PM Rating: Decent
A link to lighten the mood
#25 Nov 13 2005 at 6:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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You have to wonder how long it's going to be before some idiot marketing exec decides "hey, let's include these on game cd's too!"
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#26 Nov 13 2005 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
how do you know sony has not already done that?
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