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#1 Nov 10 2005 at 6:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm now putting my 'Pinko Liberal' hat on the hat-peg and speaking from the heart.

It's getting close to the 11th November; Armistice Day in 1918.
Here in England we donate to the British Legion to support War Veterans and in return receive a paper Poppy to wear proudly on our lapels. I'm wearing one now.

A few thoughts.

John McCrae wrote:
In Flanders' Fields the Poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place: and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders' Fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe;
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high,
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though Poppies grow
In Flanders' Fields.


In 1914-1918 and 1939-1945, Britain took on incredible challenges to defend liberty. We did not stand alone.

Thousands of Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians and others (Apologies for those I don't name) stood by us and laid down their lives. Without this support, we would probably have failed.

To all those nations who offered the ultimate support (the courage and lives of their sons and daughters) and on bhalf of me and my offspring. Thank You.

Since then there have been other conflicts. Yemen, Korea, the Falklands, Iraq etc etc.

Regardless of the rights and wrongs, we are surrounded by heroes and their wives, widows and children. The British Legion provides them with support, advice and guidance which is funded by the Poppy Appeal.

And to any Jingoistic Brits who want to spout the (false) belief that we could have done it alone and decry USA's involvment, allow me to share a surprise I encountered this week.

The Poppy Appeal is very precious to those of us who understand the sacrifices made, and often believe it to be a singularly British thing.

Well aside from the 'Poppies' poem being written by a Canadian, I now know the following:

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An American War Secretary, Moina Michael, inspired by John McCrae's poem, began selling Poppies to friends to raise money for the ex-Service community. And so the tradition began.


So once again, to our ancestors who paid the ultimate price, to their families and their countries.

Thank You

Finally:

Laurence Binyon wrote:
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.


If you're British, or simply want to provide support those whose loved ones gave their lives, or to those who are paying the price for walking up to the lince, you can donate here.

If you don't feel able or willing to donate, hit the 'back button' and move on.
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#2 Nov 10 2005 at 6:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nice post Nobby



Can't..resist...the....urge.........any......longer!!!!


GFY
#3 Nov 10 2005 at 6:50 PM Rating: Good
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somtimes I just don't get Brit humour..
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#5 Nov 10 2005 at 8:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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To Nobby:
Here in the "colonies" November 11 is also celebrated for the same reason, though we call it Veteran's Day, celebrating all our veterans of armed conflicts. I know we feel the same way as your sentiments about you brits, and our other allies, (well maybe not the French, ok a little bit for the French who died and fought in the world wars.)




Edited, Thu Nov 10 20:42:44 2005 by fhrugby
#6 Nov 10 2005 at 9:39 PM Rating: Good
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and

/salute
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#7 Nov 10 2005 at 9:52 PM Rating: Default
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War's stupid. So let's all take a moment on Veterans day to remember what we've all seen here on this thread. Specifically the best avatar on teh interwebz, Potty's.
#8 Nov 10 2005 at 11:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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On the battlefield, you become the utmost of your physical being, surpassing all else that you will ever know in life. You will either discover the utmost of your strenth and will, surpassing all limits and acheive the impossible
or else it will bring you to your lowest form of character, quivering in whithering agony and fear...
There is no in-between. It is the test of your entire being.*

Props to whoever willingly undertakes it.




*love does the same

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#9 Nov 10 2005 at 11:19 PM Rating: Good
Kelvy wrote:
On the battlefield, you become the utmost of your physical being, surpassing all else that you will ever know in life. You will either discover the utmost of your strenth and will, surpassing all limits and acheive the impossible
or else it will bring you to your lowest form of character, quivering in whithering agony and fear...
There is no in-between. It is the test of your entire being.*


That's very nice Kelvy! Battle is more like being scared shi[b][/b]tless all the time and still doing what needs to be done....but what you said is purdier. Smiley: lol
#10 Nov 10 2005 at 11:20 PM Rating: Good
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is more like being scared ******** all the time and still doing what needs to be done


would that not qualify as " the utmost of your strenth and will, surpassing all limits and acheive the impossible "?
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#11 Nov 10 2005 at 11:24 PM Rating: Good
It does, but I never thought of any words that poetic at the time. More like Fuc[/b]k! Shoot! Shi[b]t! Duck! Fuc[b][/b]k! Shoot! Rinse and repeat until morning.
#12 Nov 10 2005 at 11:25 PM Rating: Good
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I'll be going to the Veteran's Day Parade in my town. Smiley: grin

Okay, mostly I go cuz my kid plays taps.

BUT! I do like all the flags blowing around and looking at all the old vets gathered around so solemnly. I try and imagine them as young men and women..how they might have been when in service to our country.

Uh, this is all going on in my head because the speeches are really long and boring.

BUT! I do pay my respects. Smiley: blush
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#13 Nov 10 2005 at 11:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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allenjj wrote:
It does, but I never thought of any words that poetic at the time. More like Fuc[/b]k! Shoot! Shi[b]t! Duck! Fuc[b][/b]k! Shoot! Rinse and repeat until morning.


think about it.

Is there much else like that? that puts you in such a hardcore state of awareness and instinct? Truly you are a changed and more self-aware being after such experiences, whether or not you fought bravely or **** your pants.
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#14 Nov 10 2005 at 11:33 PM Rating: Good
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Truly you are a changed and more self-aware being after such experiences, whether or not you fought bravely or sh*t your pants.


I was definetely aware of how little I appreciated showers throughout my life. That and not getting shot at. Smiley: lol
#15 Nov 10 2005 at 11:33 PM Rating: Good
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I find the parental bond with England heartening; it's the classic father-son relationship: We're rebellious in our youth, but once we got our own **** together we realize that pop's not bad at all. Sure we've both got our embarassments but we're there for you.

My uncle's birthday is the 11th, he was a Navy comms tech but wasn't around for any war.
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#16 Nov 11 2005 at 12:46 AM Rating: Good
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Well said my crumpet eating friend.
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#17 Nov 11 2005 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Very nice. Both of my Grandfathers served in the armed forces. One a Marine and the other in the Army. I have more pride in that fact than any other.

To all current soldiers and verterans: Thank you.
#18 Nov 11 2005 at 9:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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You're welcome. Smiley: smile

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Edited, Fri Nov 11 09:19:06 2005 by Smoggy
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#19 Nov 11 2005 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
and we'll do it again and again if we have to. Nothing comes between America and Great Britain, nothing.

I'd like to think that right now, as we speak, there are SAS and SEALs working together across the world to fight the terrorist scum that bombed your busses and knocked down the Twin Towers.

Edited, Fri Nov 11 09:41:23 2005 by Lefein
#20 Nov 11 2005 at 10:22 AM Rating: Good
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Hm. I gave money to a guy on the street once and he gave me a red paper poppy. I thought it was pretty and I kept it, but never knew what it was for. Thanks, Nobby.
#21 Nov 12 2005 at 12:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Lefein wrote:
and we'll do it again and again if we have to. Nothing comes between America and Great Britain, nothing.

Nothing but one hell of a big hot-water current, that is.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
#22 Nov 12 2005 at 3:03 AM Rating: Default
In 1941 there was a very deadly blizzard somewhere in America on Armistice Day

that is all
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