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Gay marriage cannot be explained. Time for ID. Looks like God endorses Gay marriage.



I think the whole ID thing is terrible that it pretty much wants to say "if we cannot explain it, it must be a higher power". It implies that man as at the pinnacle of human knowlege which I feel is a big mistake.

Kinda reminds me of this:



I think the republicans are finally catching on :P

No, just the ones that are directly connected to religion.

C'mon now.. it's not as if people are claiming religious motivation behind those little "Pay the the Pump" keychains or how Ford names its cars. Talking about religion in context of whether or not ID should be taught as science seems pretty straight forward.

Certainly, Joph. But religion is the driving force behind evolution theory as well, it's just disguised as science. I do not contend that religion is what makes this topic a matter of intense argument, only that it is a tool of supposedly the Religious Right to shove their belief system down the collective throats of America.

It is not. What it is is a way to educate our children in the broadest manner possible, just as we do in every other subject area barring science.

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God made the world.

How?

He conjured up a bit physics, chemistry and biology and let them have at it. You'll learn about that in science class.

Job done.

"Godwin"? Uh oh, this thread is over, then!

Should argue that he changed the terms of the discussion, Joph. Evolution is a theory designed to describe specific adaptations in isolated environments - i.e., animals specially modded to be outfitted for the Galapogos. Evolution theory is sometimes hijacked and put into service as an explaination of Where We're From, which it's not designed for nor does it completely satisfy.

Let's throw out the question of origins, since it implicitly falls to a religious discussion.

Evolution theory states that even the most complex adaptations or developments can be explained by things like genetic mutation and competitive advantage in a population.

ID states that the most complex adaptations found in certain classes of critter are irreducibly complex - they cannot be explained by any theory, so we ought not try. Instead, they ascribe an intelligent force as the perpetrator of these changes.


ID doesn't even pretend to be science. It is the absence, the antithesis of science. "This is too hard. Let's stop trying to understand."

Science is what can be proven and reproven with experiments.

And so far, neither creationism or evolution have done that.

so, how about they all sit down and shut up.

Wrong bucko. I am sure someone else here said this but, science is there to prove what we don't know through trail and error. One never gives up because a theory draws blanks.

So now we've moved on to philosophy?

What hypocrites the evolution bunch are. They argue from a supposed perspective of science when there's no evidence proving their "theory" is in fact true. It's not the truth the evolution bunch are supporting but their own antipathy for anything resembling religion; which is understandable.
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the fanatic right. rofl.

evolution has been repeated in experiments with many life forms. hell, we did one in science class using a fly with a live span of about 10 days. making their wings shorter, longer and other interesting things simply by weeding out the undesirable traits and allowing the desired traits to reproduce.

the theory has been proven that traits become dominate through NATURAL selection. the vast majority of females like tall men, you see more tall men than short men. an animal with superrior hearing finds prey more effectively, you see more animlas with good hearing because they SURVIVE and pass that genetic mutatation to their off spring.

evolution is a theory supported by EVIDENCE, one that can be repeated through EXPERIMENT.

science.

intellegant design can not be repeated, nor has any evidence to support it. its entire support relies totally on belief, faith.

phylosiphy. not science. like tossing virgins into volcanos to quiet them.

and what a bunch of ignorant sheep. only man would have the audacity to try and create God in his own immage. who are we to believe we UNDERSTAND what God can or cannot do. who are we to belive God didnt start the natural selection process to begine with? why do we ASSUME when a being with no need or concept for time trys to relate to us creation in a series of events, a being capable of stopping the world from turning, says seven days so we might understand a series of events, doesnt actually mean 7 million years? hell, we didnt have a word for evolution back then, so how in hell could God explain it to our stupid ******

now that we understand more, mabe God would choose differant words to relate to us?

who in hell are we to ASSUME God and evolution are not compatable? one in the same?

science: something we can prove.

religion: something we can only believe.

and the moral right would have us STOP LEARNING because they BELIEVE they understand how God works. they have created God in theri own immage, there for, what they BELIEVE is a FACT.

a bunch of ignorant sheep. it astounds me that God would waste his/her time on our stupid Butts. mabe he is just really boared and this is his vurtual reality vodeo game.