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#52 Nov 04 2005 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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fenderputy the Shady wrote:
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The question shouldnt even be about whether or not the grants and loans are too high, low, or should be non-existant. The question is about Fender's morals. To spend the money in any way that is not school related would be illegal and punishable by law.


You can actually spend the money on anything you want. It's supposed to be related to school, but even a car could be bought for transportation. In addition to this, I haven't lied to get more money by claiming rent. I'm paying for everything this year related to school with this money and will have a small amount left over. Should I give this back?

Anyone comparing me to a governmental leech on welfare can lick my brown starfish. I work 32 hours a week and go to school full time with 16 units.


Give it back? Fu[b][/b]ck no, spend that ****. Just spend it on something for which it was intended. Buy a nice little protractor or something.
#53 Nov 04 2005 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:


Give it back? Fu[b][/b]ck no, spend that ****. Just spend it on something for which it was intended. Buy a nice little protractor or something.


You're missing my point. Even with spending everything I can of this loan/grant on school there will still be 2k(give or take) left over.

Edited, Fri Nov 4 14:14:48 2005 by fenderputy
#54 Nov 04 2005 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
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fenderputy the Shady wrote:
Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:


Give it back? Fu[b][/b]ck no, spend that ****. Just spend it on something for which it was intended. Buy a nice little protractor or something.


You're missing my point. Even with spending everything I can of this loan/grant on school there will still be 2k(give or take) left over.

Edited, Fri Nov 4 14:14:48 2005 by fenderputy
What are you majoring in? When are you going to graduate? Would a new computer help you in school? Can you spend that money on some sort of research project?

If you absolutely can't find anything school/college related, spend it in an effort to better yourself. Hire a Spanish tutor, take piano lessons, or pay for a professional resume writer.

Edited, Fri Nov 4 14:14:25 2005 by Jacobsdeception
#55 Nov 04 2005 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
Goodness, no don't spend it on relaxation. That would be wrong. No student ever needed a break.
#56 Nov 04 2005 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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Students get several breaks throughout the year, including a several month break in the middle. I think they get Sundays too, slackers.

Spending your money on relaxation = GOOD
Spending money given to you to get an education and become a productive member of society based on the assumption that you truely cannot afford by yourself on relaxation = BAD

Edited for clarity

Edited, Fri Nov 4 14:34:21 2005 by Jacobsdeception
#57 Nov 04 2005 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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How to spend your money is simple - Spring Break Cancun. I will gladly come along and show you the sights and best places to visit, most of which survived the hurricane. Tequila!

Semi-seriously, this is your last year of college, and your last chance to do spring break as only a college student can.

Edited, Fri Nov 4 14:27:34 2005 by fhrugby
#58 Nov 04 2005 at 2:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
Students get several breaks throughout the year, including a several month break in the middle. I think they get Sundays too, slackers.

Spending your money on relaxation = GOOD
Spending money given for you to get an education and become a productive member of society based on the assumption that you truely cannot afford it on your own means on relaxation = BAD


You're honestly telling me that after I graduate at the end of this year, and have about 2k left over, I should spend it on piano lessons or a spanish tutor?
#59 Nov 04 2005 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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fenderputy the Shady wrote:

You're honestly telling me that after I graduate at the end of this year, and have about 2k left over, I should spend it on piano lessons or a spanish tutor?

Yes, spend it in some way that will educate you. Or pay down the student loan, which would essentially the same as spending the money directly, just belated.
#60 Nov 04 2005 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
fenderputy the Shady wrote:

You're honestly telling me that after I graduate at the end of this year, and have about 2k left over, I should spend it on piano lessons or a spanish tutor?

Yes, spend it in some way that will educate you. Or pay down the student loan, which would essentially the same as spending the money directly, just belated.

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I have now placed you on a higher pedistal of moral standing.


I'm still going on vacation. Smiley: tongue
#61 Nov 04 2005 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
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[**************************** cry me a river. Yeah college kids have it real tough. Tell that to some poor single mother working two minimum wage jobs just to keep a roof over her kid's head and food on the table and couldn't afford to go to school even if the government paid for it while some middle-class schmuck walks off with a free ride because he's too lazy to earn it the hard way.

Waahh, I don't have time to go out binge drinking and ******* horny college sluts in between classes because I have to hold down a job like the rest of America. So what if you have to expend an extra 20-30 hours a week over what those people who aren't in college? That's life and it isn't always going to be a cakewalk. Put down your video game and get back to work!

Do you really think, according to your numbers, 66 hours per week divided between work and school is too much? I know people who work that much just to make ends meet and barely get by. College life is far from the roughest position to be in.[/quote]

First, you cant make a comparison to aid for students and aid for single mothers. They both get aid and it would be a far better investment for the government to give it to students. The situations are totally different and if anyone else wants to start arguing the single mother side you can GFY now.

Im sorry you lead such a dull life in college. Your number crunching doesnt include sudy hours out of class. Yeah some of us are better than others when it comes to studies and we dont need much time out of class, but others do and when you include this time into a schedule it is unreasonable to expect a student to work more than 40 hours a week with a full class schedule.

After reading your posts on the second page it appears less like you disapprove of the government giving the money, but more so that you disagree with how it is spent. I agree with that point.

Yes, Fender you can spend the money on a car if you are a commuter, but if the government chose to audit you, they would only allow the purchase of a car if your previous mode of transportation was in disrepair and you didnt opt for luxuries on the new car. Of course this is near moot because the goverment most likely wont audit you.
#62 Nov 04 2005 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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fenderputy the Shady wrote:
You're honestly telling me that after I graduate at the end of this year, and have about 2k left over, I should spend it on piano lessons or a spanish tutor?
Or a Spanish prostitute who plays piano. That's what I'd do.

Edited, Fri Nov 4 14:43:29 2005 by Jophiel
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#63 Nov 04 2005 at 2:39 PM Rating: Decent
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First, you cant make a comparison to aid for students and aid for single mothers. They both get aid and it would be a far better investment for the government to give it to students. The situations are totally different and if anyone else wants to start arguing the single mother side you can GFY now.


But middle class students should be givin a harder time, because others have made the mistatke of having children before they could afford it.
#64 Nov 04 2005 at 2:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Or a Spanish prostitute who plays piano. That's what I'd do.


Youre wasting your money and your standards for prostitutes are too high. Hell i would settle for a Portugese ***** who can identify a piano in a line-up of musical instruments
#65 Nov 04 2005 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't pay attention to this post if you are looking for some actual thought or input.

Your all missing the real point here:
One person cannont go to Hawaii on $1000, let alone two people. Unless they swim there from the mainland, the plane tickets alone are $1k. I should know, I went there over this past summer with my wife for our honeymoon.

Make the best of both worlds. Spend that money on pilot training. You please Jacobs b/c you are "bettering yourself". You please yourself b/c you can now rent a plane and fly to Hawaii yourself for far less cheaper than commerical planes (that is assuming they make personal planes that can make a trans-pacific flight, but that's neither here nor there.)

Take care all.
#66 Nov 04 2005 at 3:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Your all missing the real point here:
One person cannont go to Hawaii on $1000, let alone two people.
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#67 Nov 04 2005 at 3:24 PM Rating: Good
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I have now placed you on a higher pedistal of moral standing.


I'm still going on vacation.

You shouldn't, I'd steal your Reeboks if given the chance.

If Hawaii is your dream spot and you don't live on the West Coast, try to find a charter flight to the main island as they are usually cheaper. Depending on your travel goals you may even opt for a complete package.

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Or a Spanish prostitute who plays piano. That's what I'd do.
As alway, Jophiel is the voice of reason.

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First, you cant make a comparison to aid for students and aid for single mothers. They both get aid and it would be a far better investment for the government to give it to students. The situations are totally different and if anyone else wants to start arguing the single mother side you can GFY now.
I was making the comparison between two potential students, it was only an example to illustrate financial obligations of two different parties. Perhaps a person who had the misfortune to have a medical problem without the protection of insurance now copes to pay the resulting bills and at the same time cover living and schooling expenses.

The point here is that the average college student could afford to pay for themselves through working and/or loans should they put forth the effort to do so. The frivolous expentature of the funds freely given to students with the intent of paying for an education is a mockery to those who still barely scrape by even with assistance. If you have any reliable expendible income while recieving government grants for college, you probably don't really need them so much as it makes your life easier.

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Your number crunching doesnt include sudy hours out of class. Yeah some of us are better than others when it comes to studies and we dont need much time out of class, but others do and when you include this time into a schedule it is unreasonable to expect a student to work more than 40 hours a week with a full class schedule.

My "number crunching" was little more than a quick addition of the hours you presented. I'd say 80 hours would be a reasonable estimate of the time that should cover all your bases. 80 hours isn't all that much.
#68 Nov 04 2005 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
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One person cannont go to Hawaii on $1000, let alone two people. Unless they swim there from the mainland, the plane tickets alone are $1k. I should know, I went there over this past summer with my wife for our honeymoon.


I only need tickets. My friend's grandmother rents out a time share and us letting is stay there for 10 days. I plan on saving spending cash myself. Tickets from cali are cheap.



Edited, Fri Nov 4 16:26:07 2005 by fenderputy
#69 Nov 04 2005 at 6:50 PM Rating: Good
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Now here's an interesting coincidence. Flipping through the channels in my den(read: the room in the basement where the oil stove is, but it has ventilation fans so I can smoke down there) over a ciggy, I stop on the Travel Chanel. "Budget Hawaii SomethingorOther". Seems like a nice place.

http://www.kauaihoneymoon.com/index.html

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BTW, at the time of airing the price was said to be $500/night.

Edited, Fri Nov 4 18:59:59 2005 by Jacobsdeception
#70 Nov 05 2005 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
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My "number crunching" was little more than a quick addition of the hours you presented. I'd say 80 hours would be a reasonable estimate of the time that should cover all your bases. 80 hours isn't all that much.


Have fun with your 3-4 hours of leisure time there bud. I guess it all depends on how much you value your time away from work. Apparently you price your leisure very low compared to me.

But none of this really matters because Fender and I are stealing your tax money as I type this and planning elaborate ways to to have all sorts of fun you have never dreamed of before. Be assured that this will include the use of bongs, whipped cream, cocaine, hookers, donkeys, egg beaters and videos of Russian ballets.
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