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#1 Nov 03 2005 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
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Anyone here using it? Do you like it compared to cable?

I'm currently using comcast broadband for internet access but I hate them so I'm looking to switch.

Here's a list of what plans SBC offers in my area, which one would be comparable to my cable modem?

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SBC Yahoo!® DSL Express Package
Downstream 384 Kbps to 1.5 Mbps 128 to 384 Kbps $16.99



SBC Yahoo!® DSL Pro Package
Downstream 1.5 to 3.0 Mbps Upstream 384 to 512 Kbps $21.99



SBC Yahoo!® DSL Expert Plus Package
Downstream 1.5 Mbps to 6.0 Mbps Upstream 384 Kbps to 608 kbps $49.99



SBC Yahoo!® DSL Express Package
Downstream 384 Kbps to 1.5 Mbps Upstream 128 to 384 Kbps $34.99



SBC Yahoo!® DSL Pro Package
Downstream 1.5 to 3.0 Mbps Upstream 384 to 512 Kbps $39.99



SBC Yahoo!® DSL Expert Plus Package
Downstream 1.5 Mbps to 6.0 Mbps 3 Upstream 84 Kbps to 608 kbps $69.99




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Edited, Thu Nov 3 11:59:46 2005 by AegisGoat
#2 Nov 03 2005 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
It won't be faster than cable, but still fast enough for most things.

You'll have to get at least the Pro version to get similar bandwidth to your cable.

For basic web surfing and game playing, the basic package would work fine. Anything more bandwidth entensive, the Basic package might be a little lacking.

Edited, Thu Nov 3 12:00:29 2005 by Frakkor
#3 Nov 03 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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You have any issues playing EQ with it?
#4 Nov 03 2005 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
I play EQ on dialup.

There will be no issues playing EQ with DSL, patching might take slightly longer, but gameplay should not be effected. I used it when I lived in GR, worked great.
#5 Nov 03 2005 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
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I'm juest really sick of comcast always being down, I've had no connection at home since Sunday and it took then until yesterday to finally admit it was their problem.

Gets old but I don't want to be unhappy with a slow connection either.

So far it sounds decent enough though.

#6 Nov 03 2005 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
I love my Time Warner Cable broadband. Wouldn't swap it for any DSL I've ever had.

No experience with SBC here, but I think everything really rides on the serice provider for your decision. Research them.
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#8 Nov 03 2005 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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If you call them, ask what the distance is for your line to the CO. If it's less than 15,000 feet you should be ok, anything more and I'd say stick to cable. DSL works great as long as you have a good line and are fairly close to a CO, if you've got old wire or are pushing the limits you may end up with more problems than it's worth.
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#9 Nov 03 2005 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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I use the SBC pro package, my first time using DSL, been a cable user for years. I like it, I have had 0 problems with them, and their customer support seems to be pretty good from hearing my neighbor deal with them.

I can't imagine having trouble with EQ on it, I run WoW just fine.
#10 Nov 03 2005 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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I just spoke with them and they said the CO will not be an issue in my are because they have some sort of remote terminal that enhances the signal in my area.
#11 Nov 03 2005 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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Heh, stick to cable.
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#12 Nov 03 2005 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
Cable in my area is crap. Always down and the upload speeds are capped. I have DSL from a local provider and you could not pay me to switch to cable, as I get excellent upload and download speeds. I have tried it and I do not like it at all.

I guess it all depends on your area.
#15 Nov 03 2005 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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I sort of feel like I've stepped into the Twilight Zone here. I remember when DSL was THE way to go, as it was faster than cable and didn't bottleneck like cable did. Eventually, cable worked out the bottleneck issues.

I thought cable and DSL were pretty much the same speed now.

When we lived in California, I used SBC DSL with no problems whatsoever. We will get it again when we move back there next year.

Currently, we have Verizon DSL and we've not had any problems at all (knock wood) for the past year and a half.

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#16 Nov 03 2005 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
TWC has excellent service in my area. I test my bandwidth from time to time using one of the free services out there (whatever I google up when the urge hits me) and I stay between 5-6 m. The latency is low and I have only had two short outages in the past 24 months. I r teh satisfied customer.
#17 Nov 03 2005 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent
I have SBC, and for 6 months now, the DSL has been running at about 60k, not much faster than dial-up. The only way they were going to fix it, was for us to pay them $200 to come and fix their problem. Once we called to cancel and told them we were switching to Comcast, you'd be surprised to see how fast the problem went away. I just hope I don't have similar problems with Comcast when we get it this weekend.
#18 Nov 03 2005 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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Internet truly depends on the area.

When I was living in a different city I was running cable and it was atrocious and one of the girl room mates had DSL and it was phenomenal.

I moved and now the reverse is true, the cable is much more reliable etc than DSL. In fact after my sister saw me clicking around on Cable compared to her DSL she went and switched over.
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#19 Nov 03 2005 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
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When they start talking about signal boosters and are reluctant to tell you the distance to the CO, you're looking at minimal bandwidth. Back when I used to install DSL for people, that was usually referred to as IDSL. Which meant 128meg if it was steady. Granted, the technology has probably improved in the 3+ years since I was involved in it, but I doubt it's gotten that much better.
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#20 Nov 03 2005 at 1:12 PM Rating: Good
AegisGoat wrote:
Anyone here using it? Do you like it compared to cable?

I'm currently using comcast broadband for internet access but I hate them so I'm looking to switch.

Here's a list of what plans SBC offers in my area, which one would be comparable to my cable modem?


Thanks



Edited, Thu Nov 3 11:59:46 2005 by AegisGoat


ive not used SBC, but as one of the first tier 2 techs and installers for Bellsouth in the Central FL area i can give you some basic info.

1. aDSL under 16,000 feet is great.
2. aDSL from 16,001 - 24,000 is questionable.

the distance is from the nearest CO (central office) of direct copper. the line will have to be cleaned and tested before you can get the aDSL connected. This can take from 48hrs - 2 months or more.

Also if you are eligible for SBC DSL, then you are also eligible for DSL from your local telco (phone company) as they will be the owners of the copper any ways. you will be at the mercy of the local telcos backbone for uptimes, consistancy, and stability. it is their copper and their network after all.

all 2nd party DSL providers (this includes earthlink, SBC or any local ISPs that also offer DSL) rent space from the local Telcos COs to colocate their hardware. In other words they are basically reselling the telcos DSL over their copper.

sometimes this is good, others this is bad. in my case it is good as i have a very reputable ISP named MPINET.com and i am in sprint territory. so my copper is sprint, but my first point of contact and the company i pay is my ISP. this alows me to get a busienss DSL class line for about $50 less then i would if i went directly through Sprint, plus i own my equipment vs leasing it from Sprint.

other times this is bad like in the case with Earthlink. long story short Earthlink does not care about its customers no matter what their adds say.

now to compaire xDSL to cable:

1. xDSL has the potential to be more secure nativily then Cable.

2. xDSL is currently slower in most areas then Cable on the downstream.

3. xDSL can be as fast as most baseic cable connections in the upstream. this only affects you if you plan on doing a lot of torrents, or host a web page, ftp site, etc. otherwise this will have zero affect on surfing or gaming.

4. price depends on area, speed, services bundled.

IMHO for most home users Cable is today the way to go. DSL can be as much as 1/5 the speed of Cable with downloads and is comperable in upload speeds. the price when you compaire the price of a 2nd phone line for 56k and the ease of using phone and xDSL at the same time over the same bit of copper, compaired to digital cable TV package along with cable connection for internet will be about the same unless you go on a real low end xDSL line.

if you go on a low end (slow speed) xDSL line after coming from a cable line you will kick yourself ever day.

so the bottom line boils down to how much do you hate your current ISP (comcast, i have heard nothing but bad things about them) and have you called your local telcos to compair with SBC and do you have a contract with any of them.

contracts = do not do.

just that simple.
#21 Nov 03 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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I thought this was a thread about lip enhancement for cetain pleasurable purposes. Smiley: frown
#22 Nov 03 2005 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, thanks Singdall!

#24 Nov 03 2005 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I would go DSL to cable, mainly because friends of mine with cable claim that the speed of cable fluctuates during peak hours and, as I notice first hand, has frequent outages (This is with Cox, Adelphia, and Comcast in the Northern VA/Panhandle area).

I've got a 25mb DSL line from Verizon, very happy and have not had ONE outage in the 18 months I've had it.
#25 Nov 03 2005 at 3:25 PM Rating: Good
If you are having massive problems with Comcast, why not try SBC for a month, they'll generally give you a trial period where you can cancel with no penalties.

See which one is better (based on service and price) and go from there.

Either way, I'm still jealous.
#26 Nov 03 2005 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I would go DSL to cable, mainly because friends of mine with cable claim that the speed of cable fluctuates during peak hours and, as I notice first hand, has frequent outages (This is with Cox, Adelphia, and Comcast in the Northern VA/Panhandle area).


I've had Cox Internet for about 3 years now, my employer uses it as well.

I notice pinches on the connection at work at lunch time and about 3:30 when school lets out, but never notice a fluctuation at home.

I've had maybe 6 outages in that 3 year period and all were solved with a simple phone call that took < 30 minutes.
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