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#1 Nov 03 2005 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
FDA considers home HIV test

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The possible availability of the test, which relies on a swab on the inside of the mouth, has raised concerns about the potential psychological impact on people who learn they have the virus with no doctors or counselors present.

The test, called OraQuick Advance, is made by OraSure Technologies Inc. of Bethlehem, Pa. It is already widely available in health clinics and doctor's offices, and the FDA is considering permitting it to be sold over the counter.

A person takes the test by taking a mouth swab and then inserting the swab in a vial of fluid that comes with the test. Twenty minutes later, the device would indicate whether it detects the presence of HIV-1 or HIV-2 antibodies inside cells picked up by the swab.

The test will not detect the virus if the person only recently acquired HIV, the virus that causes
AIDS, because it takes several weeks for the antibodies to appear.

The company has not decided at what price it would sell the kits to consumers, company officials said. The company sells the kits for between $12 and $17 to clinics and doctors, he said.

The test is accurate more than 99 percent of the time, the company says. Still, a positive result from the test should be confirmed through an additional test by doctors or public health officials.



So, if they approve this, how many of you will be adding this baby to your shopping lists?

Admittedly, I will.
#2 Nov 03 2005 at 10:23 AM Rating: Good
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I'd take them to school, have people take the tests, and tell them that they will be ready in about a day. Take them home, add blue food coloring and there you go! April Fools day, pre-packaged.
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#3 Nov 03 2005 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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I'd take them to school, have people take the tests, and tell them that they will be ready in about a day. Take them home, add blue food coloring and there you go! April Fools day, pre-packaged.


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#4 Nov 03 2005 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
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The possible availability of the test, which relies on a swab on the inside of the mouth, has raised concerns about the potential loss of revenue for doctors and counselors.


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#5 Nov 03 2005 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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So, if they approve this, how many of you will be adding this baby to your shopping lists?

Admittedly, I will.
Already been tested; clean bill of health. Most exciting part was the lab trying to charge me twice for the blood work.
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#6 Nov 03 2005 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
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They have one of those blood-mobiles that come by work every 2 months or so. I'm a regular doner. I figure if something comes up, they'll let me know. And I'd trust them more than some $15 home test.
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#7 Nov 03 2005 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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They have one of those blood-mobiles that come by work every 2 months or so. I'm a regular doner. I figure if something comes up, they'll let me know. And I'd trust them more than some $15 home test.


Yeah, anytime they turn away your blood donation is usually a good time to get your will in order.

Luckily not spoken from experience, I choose not to donate for other concerns
#9 Nov 03 2005 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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#10 Nov 03 2005 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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They have one of those blood-mobiles that come by work every 2 months or so. I'm a regular doner. I figure if something comes up, they'll let me know. And I'd trust them more than some $15 home test.


I've almost talked myself into doing that several times, but never followed through. The closest I've come is when I thought I might be wimping out and was berating myself for being a wuss. Then I had to give up a few good doses at the doctor's office before I ran into another blood drive and realized I'm just a stingy ******* who has trouble giving up things for people I can't connect to. I felt better after that, so I haven't even thougth about it since. But if it's a way to get the test without paying for it...now THAT is incentive.
#11 Nov 03 2005 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Good lord those chairs look uncomfortable.


As for the home HIV test, seems like a good idea. If it was such a big deal to find out if I was HIV positive, I would still go see a doctor for a lab test. I like second opinions.
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Last time I gave blood the nurse was so incompetant that she fu[i][/i]cked up the vein on my left arm something fierce and left it bruised for weeks. It still hurts if I carry a heavy load in a way that stretches my arm (like carrying a heavy bucket of water). I figure I only have one good arm left so I'm not risking it. I'd gotten my gallon pin before that happened so my conscience is clear.
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#14 Nov 03 2005 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
they said it will decrease doctor revenue.....beceause doctors need MORE money? Sorry, but to me people knowing if they have HIV is more important than adding a few bucks to a doctors all ready fat pay-roll.
#15 Nov 03 2005 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good


It is an army regulation to get an HIV test before you deploy (you can be in the army with HIV, you just can't deploy...and they say that it remains completely private if you do have it, even from your commander. I want to know how you explain to your chain of command that you are non-deployable? Anyway...) So my husband goes and gets his blood drawn, and a while later his platoon sergent calls him and a few others into the office and says "You all failed your HIV test. Report to the clinic now."
My husband then takes what is the longest 5 minute drive of his life to this clinic just to find out that they screwed up the sample and they needed to redraw the blood. What a jerk.

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#17 Nov 03 2005 at 1:58 PM Rating: Good
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I get tested about once every couple of years when in a relationship, and then about three months after the end of one. I hate needles and giving blood, but I'd rather endure the test and know my status.

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The test will not detect the virus if the person only recently acquired HIV, the virus that causes
AIDS, because it takes several weeks for the antibodies to appear.

Same as the test in the doctor's office, then.
It seems like you would want a doctor to tell you if you were positive. I would certainly want one present.
#18 Nov 03 2005 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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I get tested about once every couple of years when in a relationship, and then about three months after the end of one. I hate needles and giving blood, but I'd rather endure the test and know my status.

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The test will not detect the virus if the person only recently acquired HIV, the virus that causes
AIDS, because it takes several weeks for the antibodies to appear.

Same as the test in the doctor's office, then.
It seems like you would want a doctor to tell you if you were positive. I would certainly want one present.


Why exactly? Unless it's the mental hospital kind, what are they really going to be able to do for you? Shoulder to cry on?
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Katarine wrote:

It is an army regulation to get an HIV test before you deploy (you can be in the army with HIV, you just can't deploy...and they say that it remains completely private if you do have it, even from your commander. I want to know how you explain to your chain of command that you are non-deployable?


I'm in the Army and my buddy here has it. He got it while in Korea. He covered it up by saying he had stomach cancer. He had to fly to Fort Gordon, GA for all these tests each month. We all believed him and not even the commander knew. Then, a medic arrived in our unit. She had been stationed in Korea with my buddy. She walked up and sed out loud, "aren't you the guy who has aids?" Jig was up, we all found out and he went to Fort Leavenworth to prison for four years. That's cuz he never told his three girlfriends at the time that he was infected. They didn't charge him, but the Army did.

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#21 Nov 03 2005 at 3:06 PM Rating: Good
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Why exactly? Unless it's the mental hospital kind, what are they really going to be able to do for you? Shoulder to cry on?

Is that what you go to your doctor for?
Putting myself in that scenario, I imagine that if I just found out I was HIV-positive I would have many questions about my prognosis, medications, and treatments, and I'd rahter ask a doctor than a counselor.
#22 Nov 03 2005 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Is that what you go to your doctor for?
Putting myself in that scenario, I imagine that if I just found out I was HIV-positive I would have many questions about my prognosis, medications, and treatments, and I'd rather ask a doctor than read the back of the package.

FTFY
#23 Nov 03 2005 at 3:12 PM Rating: Good
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Elderon the Wise wrote:
Why exactly? Unless it's the mental hospital kind, what are they really going to be able to do for you? Shoulder to cry on?

Is that what you go to your doctor for?
Putting myself in that scenario, I imagine that if I just found out I was HIV-positive I would have many questions about my prognosis, medications, and treatments, and I'd rather ask a doctor than a counselor.


Not I. The steps I'd take are:
1) Have wife tested to see if we are both terminal
2) Try to figure out how the fu[b][/b]ck it happened.
---Visit doctor here---
3) Set a plan for my childrens' futures
4) Enjoy the days I have left until I got really sick
5) Once really sick, get into an 'accident' motorcycle vs. transport truck.
#24 Nov 03 2005 at 4:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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I got tested awhile back as part of routine dating maintenance (we're always cautious, oh so careful, but occasionally odd things happen). I asked the doctor performing my bloodwork why on earth they couldn't just give me a phonecall or mail me the results of the test. I didn't want to take time out of my day to return to the office to be told I'm healthy.

She said they made everyone come back because they don't want people to talk to counselors. I asked what the practical point of that was; she said that some people, when told they're HIV positive, will enter into the "no way, un uh, not ME, you're LYING" mindset. If they got a call, they'll hang up the phone; if they got a letter, they'll burn it. Some people suffer a serious breakdown at this point and they flatly refuse to accept the reality.

They then often set off to do something drastically stupid, often something that infects other people. ("I'm not sick, people find me attractive, I must be healthy and they were lying! I'm going to go ***** the next five people I see.")
#25 Nov 03 2005 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
This is awesome, now it means more secks for everyone.

To think if I had this crap years ago, the possibilities.
#26 Nov 03 2005 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
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you can be in the army with HIV, you just can't deploy...and they say that it remains completely private if you do have it, even from your commander. I want to know how you explain to your chain of command that you are non-deployable? Anyway...)


If it works anything like the Navy you never have to tell them at all. They transfer you to a non-deployable command. You are never placed in the possition where you would have to lie. You just never bring it up. Your many medical appointments are harder to explain your way around. One of my coworkers tried to hide it for a little while but stoped caring after awhile and just told us why they transfered him here.

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I'm in the Army and my buddy here has it. He got it while in Korea. He covered it up by saying he had stomach cancer. He had to fly to Fort Gordon, GA for all these tests each month. We all believed him and not even the commander knew. Then, a medic arrived in our unit. She had been stationed in Korea with my buddy. She walked up and sed out loud, "aren't you the guy who has aids?" Jig was up, we all found out and he went to Fort Leavenworth to prison for four years. That's cuz he never told his three girlfriends at the time that he was infected. They didn't charge him, but the Army did.


This is bad situation from every direction. He needs to rot in prison if he gave it to someone like that. The medic better not ever be allowed to work in the field agine for disclosing medical info about a patient.
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