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#1 Nov 02 2005 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
And Thanksgiving is just around the bend. What are everyone's plans? Do you have a special family tradition for Turkey day? What about a favorite food that Mom, Grandma, or Aunt Tilly makes?

Since I am a coconut (Half spanish and half Irish) we mix our food traditions a little. Mom makes green chile and red chile and we have homemade tamales with our turkey dinner. YUM.Smiley: yippee

Can't wait.

How about you?
#2 Nov 02 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
Well, my Dad makes all the best treats for holiday occasions.

Never woulda thunk it when I was a kid. The only thing he ever cooked back then was a whole hog or the occasional steak on the grill. The past decade has been a real suprise as he's embraced one holiday after another. My mom cook good meals and makes great jellies and other things, but when it comes to the holidays, she has to start sharing the kitchen. While she is handling the expected portions of the meals (turkeys, stuffing, side dishes, etc.) old Mr. sweet tooth makes fudge, divinity, pecan tarts, peanut and pecan brittle, pickled green tomatoes, and several other things I can't think of right now. Last year the tomatoes were my fave. He uses 19 different spices and he won't say which or how much, but I ate half a jar after lunch and I don't even usually like pickled stuff.
#3 Nov 02 2005 at 11:46 AM Rating: Good
The kids and I for the past couple years, have gone to help the local homeless shelter prepare and serve Thanksgiving dinner and will be doing so again this year.
When we get home, we eat pumpkin pie and watch "It's a Wonderful Life".

Corny maybe to some, but has given my kids and I a great appreciation for life, and what we have.
#4 Nov 02 2005 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
WriteMindedLefty the Venerable wrote:
The kids and I for the past couple years, have gone to help the local homeless shelter prepare and serve Thanksgiving dinner and will be doing so again this year.
When we get home, we eat pumpkin pie and watch "It's a Wonderful Life".

Corny maybe to some, but has given my kids and I a great appreciation for life, and what we have.


I am not sure if that is being kind or if you are just being insanely evil?

I mean come on you go serve the poor homeless people and watch them in all thier suffering then you go to your comfortable home and watch it's a wonderful life. If you really want to be kind bring the homeless there to watch it's a wonderful life with you or just **** off and do what I do, drink some beer and watch some football.

Edited, Wed Nov 2 12:07:03 2005 by Proroc
#5 Nov 02 2005 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
I'm teaching my kids service and compassion.

I'm a single mother who has been raped in the past...

Think I'd feel at all comfortable bringing ANY strange person I know into my home and put my children's and my safety in jeapordy?

Nothing to do with the homeless aspect either, I mean any person I'm not familiar with - my kids safety comes first.

We'll just have to agree to disagree, I feel anything but evil with the feelings we leave with.

P.S., we also bring in tonsof blankets we bought at the thrift store, as well as soap, toothpaste, etc.

And I'm a single mother, so buying them from the thrift store is the best I can do.

I find it amazing that you construed what I do for the community and for my children as evil.

And, I'll pass on the beer... I'm attempting to give my kids a different feeling/memory here than their mother kicking back getting drunk. =/

P.S. (again) Have you ever watched "It's a Wonderful Life"?

Edited, Wed Nov 2 12:27:03 2005 by WriteMindedLefty
#6 Nov 02 2005 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
Smiley: lol This may be the wrong forum for you to post in if you get rattled that easily.
#7 Nov 02 2005 at 12:17 PM Rating: Good
It was a sincere response to your question.

You didn't answer any of mine though. Smiley: wink

But yeah, given the subject matter, I'd probably have started this post in OOT.

Edited, Wed Nov 2 12:34:28 2005 by WriteMindedLefty
#8 Nov 02 2005 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
WriteMindedLefty the Venerable wrote:
I'm teaching my kids service and compassion.


Yes that is a very good way to do it. It will benefit them now and later in life when they have to make it on thier own. I helped alot with my Church bulding homes for the underprivledged and we also do food drives and try to help out when times get rough.

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I'm a single mother who has been raped in the past...


I am sorry to hear that. I think that anyone who commits that crime should be put to death or atleast thrown in prison for life with no parole

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Think I'd feel at all comfortable bringing ANY strange person I know into my home and put my children's and my safety in jeapordy?


I do not have childern yet and I still would not want someone I do not know in my house.

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Nothing to do with the homeless aspect either, I mean any person I'm not familiar with - my kids safety comes first.


That is understandable and how it should be.

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We'll just have to agree to disagree, I feel anything but evil with the feelings we leave with.


I was just attempting to rattle your cage a little. There is no evil in what you said you do.

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P.S., we also bring in tonsof blankets we bought at the thrift store, as well as soap, toothpaste, etc.


At this time of year I am sure the homeless are very grateful to receive new blankets to keep them warm.

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And I'm a single mother, so buying them from the thrift store is the best I can do.


Does not matter where yu buy them it is the thought that counts. I do not care if you are a multi millionaire and buy things like that for the homeless from a thrift store. It is all the same thought and act of kindness.

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I find it amazing that you construed what I do for the community and for my children as evil.


See above.

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And, I'll pass on the beer... I'm attempting to give my kids a different feeling/memory here than their mother kicking back getting drunk. =/


Good point, but I am not a mother nor father so kicking back, having a few beers, and watching some football is nothing bad on my end.

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P.S. (again) Have you ever watched "It's a Wonderful Life"?


Proably when I was alot younger with my parents I did, but I do not see myself being able to sit through a movie like that now.

#9 Nov 02 2005 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
Thanksgiving is so last month. Smiley: rolleyes
#10 Nov 02 2005 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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Thanksgiving is so last month. Smiley: rolleyes


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#11 Nov 02 2005 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
bodhisattva Defender of Justice wrote:
Elderon the Wise wrote:
Thanksgiving is so last month. Smiley: rolleyes


/nod

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#12 Nov 02 2005 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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This is the first time in quite some time that I have a GF. Previously my family used to do lunch on my father's side, and then dinner with my mother's side. However I will now be running around all over the valley, and orange county to see my family and hers.


We are going to have to figure something out for the next upcoming years.
#13 Nov 02 2005 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
Make sure you do not catch the "flu" this Holiday season.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9880600/site/newsweek/#hmmm
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By Martha Brant
Newsweek
Updated: 8:35 a.m. ET Nov. 1, 2005

Nov. 1, 2005 - With Thanksgiving just a few weeks away, the U.S. government and the poultry industry are scrambling to make sure avian flu fears don't keep Americans from enjoying the traditional turkey dinner this year. Last week, Dr. Ron DeHaven, a veterinarian and head of the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, gathered with other members of the government’s “biosecurity” team and Alice Johnson, president of the National Turkey Federation, to elaborate on steps they've taken to keep U.S. poultry healthy, and to offer tips for worried home cooks who want to take extra precautions this holiday season.

Is there reason for Americans to worry? Not much, say officials. There are almost as many turkeys raised each year in the United States as there are people, and there's little doubt that some commercially grown birds will get a mild strain of avian flu this year. There are 144 types of bird flu, which can range from low to highly pathogenic (or contagious). But only the high path strain called H5N1 is known to kill people, and, to date, it has not infected U.S. poultry.

Another highly contagious strain for chickens, H5N2, has caused two outbreaks at U.S. chicken farms in the past. The biggest occurred in 1983 in Pennsylvania, leading to the destruction of 17 million chickens at a cost of about $70 million. In 2004, there was a smaller outbreak in Texas. But officials stress that in neither instance did the flu spread to humans. Most of the routine bird flu each year is not very contagious and doesn’t cause outbreaks. “With the current situation, our concern is that we’ve set the stage for an overreaction,” DeHaven says.

Still, with the threat of the deadly H5N1 strain in mind, the U.S. government is taking some additional precautions this year. They’re stepping up their biosecurity education abroad and plan to increase testing of migratory birds from Asia. Here at home, the government is stockpiling vaccines for poultry, as well as people, in case of an outbreak. Barring anyone but farm workers from entering chicken coops is another safety measure. “The [chicken] houses are tight, well contained with no ability for wild birds to enter and cross contaminate these birds,” explains Carlton Courter, Virginia’s agriculture commissioner.

An outbreak of the more contagious strains of avian flu would be easy to spot and, hopefully, to contain. When such a virus hits a flock, the birds die off quickly. DeHaven has a cadre of 40,000 private veterinarians who are on call to check out any suspected outbreaks. The “foreign animal disease reserve vets” respond within four hours, descending on a flock with test kits in hand and ready to quarantine the area. But USDA inspectors also routinely checks birds’ health both on the farm, where bird saliva or ***** may be examined, and at processing plants, where inspectors examine the birds’ organs for signs of flu and other diseases. The agency conducts about 1 million tests a year on farms. “The chance of infected poultry entering the food chain would be extremely low,” says USDA Under Secretary for Food Safety Dr. **** Raymond.

So far, officials say, no one in Asia or elsewhere has died from eating infected chickens, ducks or anything else. (Pigs can also get the “avian” flu.) But Raymond offers some Thanksgiving tips for worried home cooks. His mantra: clean, separate, cook and chill. Wash hands and surfaces that come in contact with raw poultry—or any meat for that matter. Cook a whole turkey to 185 degrees. Refrigerate it at 45 degrees or lower within two hours of cooking. Use leftovers within four days. (For more tips, go to www.fsis.usda.gov.)

The USDA is more concerned about live, not cooked, birds. The agency routinely checks bird markets in places like New York, but there are many smaller markets around the country. Some exotic birds are also smuggled into the United States for pets or for sport. Bird smuggling is a big business and poses a problem, officials say. A few years ago, roosters smuggled into California from Mexico for cockfighting caused an outbreak of exotic Newcastle disease, which is highly contagious—but only for birds.

Migratory birds pose some threat to U.S. poultry—especially to so-called backyard birds, like those kept on family farms or as pets, and to free-range chickens (though farms and plants are closely monitored by the USDA). Although avian flu is endemic to migratory birds, they have only been found to carry the "low path"—or less potent—avian flu in the United States. But the bird flu can mutate into the more dangerous "high path" virus and birds from Asia could also carry such a strain. U.S. officials are concerned because water fowl from eastern Asia and northern China pass over Alaska before returning home. Other birds fly up the “Pacific flyway” to Alaska and commingle with the Asian birds. This poses a risk of cross-contamination.

About 12,000 birds in the Pacific flyway have been tested over the last five years. But critics like John El-Attrache, an avian-virus expert at Texas A&M University, say that is a tiny fraction of the number of birds that should be tested. “There needs to be some type of systematic surveillance system,” says El-Attrache. “All these flyways have merging routes." That may happen soon. Legislation is currently pending in Congress that would dramatically increase funding for such sampling.

Still, while migratory birds pose a small risk for U.S. poultry, experts say there's little chance at this time of the virus spreading to people in the United States. Those who were infected abroad are believed to have contracted the deadly form of avian flu through a lot of direct contact with bird saliva and *****. No migratory bird has directly infected anyone in Asia or elsewhere, and experts aren’t even sure a migratory bird with the deadly strain could fly all the way to the United States. Now that's something Americans can be thankful for this Thanksgiving—that, and not having to give up their turkey dinner.


How many idiots are going to substitute ham for turkey this Thanksgiving?
#14 Nov 02 2005 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank You for making me a Canadian. It makes me very happy to know that I have more education than most americans and free health care. It also makes me happy that the f[/b]ucktards in our government aren't as dumb and annoying as the f[b]ucktards in The american Government.

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#15 Nov 02 2005 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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However I will now be running around all over the valley, and orange county to see my family and hers.


We are going to have to figure something out for the next upcoming years.


Before I got married, my wife and I did the exact same thing. Drove to both houses (my parents and hers) and ate at both. Good times but I was miserable by the end of the day... too much dessert and turkey.

We decided to split up holidays as most people do, 1 year we do Turkey day here and next year there, same for Christmas.
#16 Nov 03 2005 at 12:31 AM Rating: Decent
We're nesting at home this Thanksgiving, mostly because my wife is due in January and she'll be really big, thus we're not going anywhere. It is likely we will have a few random family members over. It is likely we will have a small turkey, which is nice as it cooks faster. Natually, we have to name it, and preform an autopsy to determine time and cause of death. We'll have veggie substitute turkey alongside the real deal. My wife's family loves the stuff. Many are vegitarians. Ironically, they *really* know how to cook meat and their turkeys are so moist and flavorful.

I am personally happy to not have to travel over the holiday - which I've been doing annually for almost a decade now (and I'm not that old...). Next year we'll likely make up for it by going to three celebrations (new baby - first grandchild on my family's side).

#18 Nov 03 2005 at 4:02 AM Rating: Good
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Thank Gawd we are not American


Dear God,

Thank You for making me a Canadian. It makes me very happy to know that I have more education than most americans and free health care. It also makes me happy that the f[/b]ucktards in our government aren't as dumb and annoying as the f[b]ucktards in The american Government.

Thanks again, Your Pal,


ShroomSmiley: smile


Not too sure about the education part, but as far as free health care goes, the Canadian-turned American at my work filled me in on how that all works. Turns out that Canada's health care system is relatively flawed when it comes to getting people what they need. She told me about how her mother needed a certain surgery and that because it's free, everyone must go on a list. To keep it short, the list is what keeps people from getting what they need, when they really need it. ("You're on Mr. List, butchyoo gotta wait for everyone above you to get their's first.")

Irony is, after discussing all that with her, I realized how nice America's health care can be. While it may cost people tons of money for the care, there's light in the fact that things get done quicker because of it. When it comes to health, time is very important.



As far as Canadian thanksgiving goes... Isn't that in rememberance of when the polar bears came down and taught all you Canucks how to build igloos and play hockey?
#19 Nov 03 2005 at 4:26 AM Rating: Decent
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free health care.


Joke(Yeah it's going to be lame, probably old, and off color. Alas, I don't give a sh[b][/b]it)

An American, a Canadian, and a Jew are riding in a car. There is a terrible accident and sadly all three die in the crash.

As the coroner is putting the toe tags on the said individuals. The American wakes up.

Shocked the Coroner asks "Woah, you're alive? How is that possible?!?!" The American says "Well I was in a car with a couple of friends and we died. All of us went to heaven. They told us at the gate if we paid them $100 dollars that we could come back to life. So I whipped out my wallet and forked over the cash." Puzzled the coroner asked "Well what happend to the other two?" The american answers "Well the Jew was haggling the price, and the Canadian was waiting for his government to pay for it."
#21 Nov 03 2005 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
Dread Lord UndeadShroom wrote:
It makes me very happy to know that I have more education than most americans


Top 20 universites in the world.

1 Harvard Univ USA
2 Stanford Univ USA
3 Univ Cambridge UK
4 Univ California - Berkeley USA
5 Massachusetts Inst Tech (MIT) USA
6 California Inst Tech USA
7 Princeton Univ USA
8 Univ Oxford UK
9 Columbia Univ USA
10 Univ Chicago USA
11 Yale Univ USA
12 Cornell Univ USA
13 Univ California - San Diego USA
14 Tokyo Univ Japan
15 Univ Pennsylvania USA
16 Univ California - Los Angeles USA
17 Univ California - San Francisco USA
18 Univ Wisconsin - Madison USA
19 Univ Michigan - Ann Arbor USA
20 Univ Washington - Seattle USA

17 out of 20, I guess we Americans aren't all that dumb. Notice this list is devoid of Canadian Universities.

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#22 Nov 03 2005 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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#23 Nov 03 2005 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
Rimesume the Shady wrote:
Dread Lord UndeadShroom wrote:
It makes me very happy to know that I have more education than most americans


Top 20 universites in the world.

1 Harvard Univ USA
2 Stanford Univ USA
3 Univ Cambridge UK
4 Univ California - Berkeley USA
5 Massachusetts Inst Tech (MIT) USA
6 California Inst Tech USA
7 Princeton Univ USA
8 Univ Oxford UK
9 Columbia Univ USA
10 Univ Chicago USA
11 Yale Univ USA
12 Cornell Univ USA
13 Univ California - San Diego USA
14 Tokyo Univ Japan
15 Univ Pennsylvania USA
16 Univ California - Los Angeles USA
17 Univ California - San Francisco USA
18 Univ Wisconsin - Madison USA
19 Univ Michigan - Ann Arbor USA
20 Univ Washington - Seattle USA

17 out of 20, I guess we Americans aren't all that dumb. Notice this list is devoid of Canadian Universities.

Source



American propiganda at it's finest.
#24 Nov 03 2005 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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American propaganda at it's finest.



This FTFY brought to you by Americans for better spelling.
#25 Nov 03 2005 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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American propiganda at it's finest.



Actually Eldy it would be Chinese propraganda.

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#26 Nov 03 2005 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
Rimesume the Shady wrote:
Elderon the Wise wrote:


American propaganda at it's finest.



Actually Eldy it would be Chinese propraganda.

My Source wrote:

Copyright © 2004 Institute of Higher Education, Shanghai Jiao Tong University, All Rights Reserved.


Dirty Chinese in league with the Amhericuns! It's a conspiracy.
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