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#1 Oct 27 2005 at 9:34 PM Rating: Good
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Just heard it on CNN.

edit-Ok, a tad brief for a starting post, I'm going to watch and see what happens.

Edited, Thu Oct 27 22:43:58 2005 by DiscipleOfKain
#2 Oct 27 2005 at 9:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mad Libby?

or is that short for libya?
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#3 Oct 27 2005 at 9:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I think he means this Libby.

Hmmm nice try Bush, this is obviously a smokescreen of some sort, because we all know he has been dead for some time and is playing the piano vicariosly in some lounge in heaven.
#4 Oct 27 2005 at 10:23 PM Rating: Default
If you are talking about Libby Weaver from Fox 31 news at 9 o'clock in colorado, then I attest your jest. She is the finest women in news casting.

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#5 Oct 27 2005 at 11:07 PM Rating: Good
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And what will your wife think of all this, sir?
#6 Oct 28 2005 at 8:51 AM Rating: Good
Uh oh, time for gabji to turn up the power on his Bullsh[b][/b]it-O-Matic.

Full speed ahead, capn' G.
#7 Oct 28 2005 at 9:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Gbaji and every other Pubbie.

"This is just like Clinton and you hated that!!! It's all politics!!!"

I guess the public at large will decide for themselves if lying about a ******* during a failed real estate investigation is better or worse than lying during an investigation about national security. Unless the subject of the charges is "Libby lied about what was on his sandwich", I doubt people will see them as the "same thing".

Alas, I will be on a plane during Fitzgeral's 2:00pm press conference so give the Pubbie Pity Party my regards. Any port in a storm, guys!
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#8 Oct 28 2005 at 1:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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I caught this on the news while at lunch, and was disappointed. Scooter Libby got indicted on five counts:

- 1x obstruction of justice
- 2x perjury, for lying to the grand jury
- 2x 'making false statements', for lying to the FBI

Also notable is what he didn't get indicted for:

- 0x revealing the name of an undercover CIA operative

..which was the whole focus of the investigation and the grand jury itself, right? And if that's the case, what justice was Libby obstructing, exactly?

This week has been such a letdown. First it was 'indictments by Wednesday', then 'maybe Thursday', now 'definitely Friday, because our grand jury is expiring today, so we gotta indict someone for something' -- and it isn't even the actual potential crime the media has been frenzied on all month. Disappointing.


Sharks and whales sometimes have remoras attached, which feed upon the particulate matter left as a course of the larger animals activities.

Our political circus in the US is a case where the remora is actually larger than the shark it's attached to.
#9 Oct 28 2005 at 1:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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in other news, wingchild lives like 15 minutes away from my parents house

that is all
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#10 Oct 28 2005 at 1:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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I might work 15 minutes from your parents house; I'm an hour from home at the moment.

Want me to swing by and introduce myself? "Your child and I don't really know each other, but he told me where you live."

Would they shoot at me?
#11 Oct 28 2005 at 1:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Unless your billing address is your work address, I assumed it was home (unless you do work in apt H!)


My mom would probably ask you if you wanted any coffee
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#12 Oct 28 2005 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nah, billing is the home addy. I'm over outside Frederick, MD at the moment; it's a tad more rural here than it is on the I95 corridor.

Cool deal, interesting coincidence. I think I qualify for the `I (heart) voyueristic admins` T-shirt now. ^^
#13 Oct 28 2005 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
How can they blame this libby fool for "blowing her cover" when she's appearing in Time magazine? I'm lost.
#14 Oct 28 2005 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think the point was that someone blew her cover just prior to that two-page spread in Time, where she was photographed with her husband (amusingly, with her wearing a kerchief and sunglasses, all spy-like).

The thing that irks me is that they did this investigation and called up a grand jury to not charge anybody with the leak.
#15 Oct 28 2005 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
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How can they blame this libby fool for "blowing her cover"


Um they aren't ..

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- 1x obstruction of justice
- 2x perjury, for lying to the grand jury
- 2x 'making false statements', for lying to the FBI



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#16 Oct 28 2005 at 1:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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#17 Oct 28 2005 at 1:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Agreed and understood, Samira, but it'd be like stringing up OJ Simpson for resisting arrest due to the low-speed White Bronco chase.
#18 Oct 28 2005 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
and he has resigned (hope i spelled that right)
#19 Oct 28 2005 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wingchild wrote:
Agreed and understood, Samira, but it'd be like stringing up OJ Simpson for resisting arrest due to the low-speed White Bronco chase.


...Or Al Capone for tax evasion. If that's all you can prove, then that's what you charge, Wingchild.
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#20 Oct 28 2005 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
the guy on the TV talking about this situation was just asked if it makes a differance if he is a high level gov. official or not and his answere was "if we just walk away and do not press charges of obstruciton of justice and purgery then why should just walk away from our jobs"

if that is true, then why was Burger not indited for the same thing? he lied under oath, he obstructied justice, and did worse the libby by stealing and destroying top secrit documents that pertain to an inditement on former pres. clinton.

hello, i rate that higher then revealing a CIA operative, and that to me is extreemly bad and pushing high treason.
#21 Oct 28 2005 at 1:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wingchild wrote:
Cool deal, interesting coincidence. I think I qualify for the `I (heart) voyueristic admins` T-shirt now. ^^


/me points at your Posting From: line, too
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#22 Oct 28 2005 at 2:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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...Or Al Capone for tax evasion. If that's all you can prove, then that's what you charge, Wingchild.


Touché.


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Ayup, but that and my billing info are two separate things. :) It's okay, though - curiosity must sometimes be satisfied. I've been an admin for a decade myself and know how the whole absolute power deal works over time.

It's friday. Accept my light teasing with warmest regards. ;)
#23 Oct 28 2005 at 2:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wingchild wrote:
Ayup, but that and my billing info are two separate things. :) It's okay, though - curiosity must sometimes be satisfied. I've been an admin for a decade myself and know how the whole absolute power deal works over time.


Nah, absolute power would be using this knowledge to find people and leave flaming dog poo on their doorstops
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#24 Oct 28 2005 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
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Wingchild wrote:

- 1x obstruction of justice
- 2x perjury, for lying to the grand jury
- 2x 'making false statements', for lying to the FBI


In other words. There were two statements he made to the grand jury that didn't exactly match those made to the FBI, so we charge him with perjury for the ones said to the grand jury and making false statements for those said to the FBI. Assumption being that since they don't match, one of each set must be a lie, so we'll get him on something.

The obstruction charge is there becuase.. well... the investigation had to spend time asking Libby all those questions and then more time comparing them to other answers and finding the 2 discrepancies. And that obstructed their overall goal somehow...


Jokes aside. Looks like I've been right on the money so far. Who wants to take bets that none of these charges hold up and he's ultimately aquitted? Any takers? I'm 2 for 2 on this so far...
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#25 Oct 28 2005 at 4:52 PM Rating: Good
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Wingchild wrote:
Agreed and understood, Samira, but it'd be like stringing up OJ Simpson for resisting arrest due to the low-speed White Bronco chase.

He should have been charged for that.

He embarrassed the LAPD, created a national spectacle, and would have been run off the road if he wasn't a celebrity.

#26 Oct 28 2005 at 4:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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It'd be a sucker's bet. Even were Libby convicted at trial (acting as a patsy to keep the slate clean for the higher ups) his conviction would only last until Bush's final days in office. Pardoning allies is a time honored tradition in Washington.
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