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#1 Oct 26 2005 at 12:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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McDonald's To Add Nutritional Information to Packaging

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Go to McDonald's and order a Big Mac. If you avoid studying the nutritional wall chart you could enjoy your sandwich blissfully unaware of the caloric truth.

That's about to change.

McDonald's Corp., under fire from health activists, targeted by lawsuits and trying to redefine its relationship with customers, said Tuesday that it will become the first fast-food company to print detailed nutritional information about its products on the packaging.

Literally wrapping its food in the numbers, McDonald's will confront its diners with all the hard facts, like: Big Mac, 560 calories.

On everything from a four-piece serving of Chicken McNuggets (170 calories) to a Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese (730 calories), the chain will include on the wrapper a small information box delineating five nutritional facts: calorie, protein, fat, carbohydrate and sodium contents.
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McDonald's said its new packaging will be introduced in Italy at the 2006 Winter Olympics and then rolled out to North America, Europe, Asia and Latin America in the first half of 2006. The company said it expects to have the packaging available in more than 20,000 of its 31,700 restaurants worldwide by the end of next year.
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The decision to do nutritional labeling gives the company clear-cut ammunition to defend itself against charges of being irresponsible.

But there is also a potential marketing risk in becoming so straightforward about the contents of things like a Premium Crispy Chicken Ranch BLT Sandwich (580 calories). Perhaps people will stop eating so many of them.

McDonald's says it's not concerned that it might turn off its customers, and further, it has broadened its menu choices to include more healthful items like the Fruit & Walnut Salad (310 calories).

But when Ruby Tuesday, the sit-down restaurant chain, put nutritional information on its menus, there were repercussions. According to reports, sales tumbled as consumers suddenly stopped ordering the gargantuan burgers for which it is famous. In reaction, Ruby Tuesday eliminated the nutrition information from the menu.

McDonald's may be able to avoid that fallout because it is not putting the nutritional information on menu boards where people would see the caloric and fat contents on burgers before they order.
Technically, McDonald's does provide those pamphlets in the store with nutritional information if you're that interested in knowing it before you order.

Usually any thread about fast food gives you a dozen people swearing they'd never ever eat at McDonald's because it SUCKS!!!. But, for the rest of humanity, do you ever consider the nutritional content of your fast food? Does it make a difference? Do you just blithely order the chicken sandwich instead of the burger on the assumption it must be healthier? I have to admit I was suprised to see the Crispy Chicken BLT sandwich has more calories than the Big Mac.
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#2 Oct 26 2005 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
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But, for the rest of humanity, do you ever consider the nutritional content of your fast food?


Nope, the only reason I eat fast food is because it's fast, hot, and cheap. I already know it's terrible for me and try to avoid it when it is feasable. But I wouldn't order a chicken sandwich from McyDs and feel good about the nutritional choice I made.
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#3 Oct 26 2005 at 12:32 PM Rating: Good
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I do. Smiley: blush At one time, I had a list of what was the best (healthiest) thing to eat at almost 20 fast food places and stuck to it. Grilled, salads, no dressing, etc.
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I think most people inherently know before they pick up that big, mouth watering, juicy burger that it’s shi[/b]tty for you. While I think Mc D’s tastes like crap, I can still relate this concept to any fast food. When I go eat In N’ Out I know the food isn’t good for me. I think Mc D’s is probably doing this because of the lawsuits they are/could be facing. It could also be due to a negative backlash from Super Size Me.

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#5 Oct 26 2005 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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I think Mc D’s is probably doping this because of the lawsuits they are/could be facing. It could also be to a negative backlash from Super Size Me.


They're doing this because we live in a country where a person can stuff 40 burgers a week into their ever-widening mouths and then blame McDonald's when they end up fat.

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I think its great Mcdonalds is going to provide this information, whether or not people actually pay attention and understand it is another issue.
What I would really like to see them come out with is the 'McFoieGras meal', only of course to be exclusivley served in the suburban areas.
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Pretty soon they're going to be searing the nutritial information into the top of the hamburger bun so you can't miss it.
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DENVER -- Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc., the McDonald's-owned chain best known for its hefty burritos, filed paperwork Tuesday for an initial public offering of $100 million worth of stock.

This I did not know...
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DENVER -- Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc., the McDonald's-owned chain best known for its hefty burritos, filed paperwork Tuesday for an initial public offering of $100 million worth of stock.

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The Chicago Tribune wrote:
If you avoid studying the nutritional wall chart you could enjoy your sandwich blissfully unaware of the caloric truth.


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Jophiel wrote:
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DENVER -- Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc., the McDonald's-owned chain best known for its hefty burritos, filed paperwork Tuesday for an initial public offering of $100 million worth of stock.

This I did not know...

They also own Boston Market and recently sold off their Donato's Pizza chain.

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Do you just blithely order the chicken sandwich instead of the burger on the assumption it must be healthier? I have to admit I was suprised to see the Crispy Chicken BLT sandwich has more calories than the Big Mac.

I frequently order chicken over burgers not because of calories, but because of fat and cholesterol content. Calories don't bother me, as I'm one of those indomitably skinny guys, and if I ever do get fat, I can work off the weight. But it's not so easy to get rid of arterial blockage and arteriosclerosis.



Although a chicken sandwich with bacon and ranch dressing is probably worse than a burger.

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Do you just blithely order the chicken sandwich instead of the burger on the assumption it must be healthier? I have to admit I was suprised to see the Crispy Chicken BLT sandwich has more calories than the Big Mac.

I frequently order chicken over burgers not because of calories, but because of fat and cholesterol content. Calories don't bother me, as I'm one of those indomitably skinny guys, and if I ever do get fat, I can work off the weight. But it's not so easy to get rid of arterial blockage and arteriosclerosis.



Heh. Yeah. The "chicken sandwitch" is going to be better for you then the burger. The "Crispy Chicken BLT" is not. Crispy means fried (lots of fat). BLT means it's got bacon, which is arguably one of the worst things you can put inside your body in terms of health. Lettuce and Tomatos are great though, but don't make up for those first two.

Get a standard grilled chicken sandwitch (like the one at Jack in the Box for example), and you're going to have a healthier meal (healthier being relative of course!).


What I find most amusing about all of this is the underlying stupidity that leads it. So people are too stupid to know that fast food isn't healthy, but instead of recognizing that the masses are just plain stupid, we put pressure on the fast food places to post their nutritional information. And when the same stupid people who don't realize that fast food isn't good for them don't read that information or change their eating habits, we put more pressure on those same restaurants so they put it on the freaking wrappers.


At what point will the health craze morons realize that a goodly percentage of people will eat cheap crap no matter what they do. Do they honestly believe that "if only we could inform the masses, they'd make the right choice"? There are lots of reasons people eat fast food. An no matter how blatantly you put the nutritional information out there, that's not going to change those reasons one bit.

I'm serious here. Do they honestly think people eat fast food purely because they haven't been informed that it's bad for them? Sheesh! Just like the tobacco class action suits. Same stupid illogic.
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#23 Oct 27 2005 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you just blithely order the chicken sandwich instead of the burger on the assumption it must be healthier? I have to admit I was suprised to see the Crispy Chicken BLT sandwich has more calories than the Big Mac.

I frequently order chicken over burgers not because of calories, but because of fat and cholesterol content. Calories don't bother me, as I'm one of those indomitably skinny guys, and if I ever do get fat, I can work off the weight. But it's not so easy to get rid of arterial blockage and arteriosclerosis.



Heh. Yeah. The "chicken sandwitch" is going to be better for you then the burger. The "Crispy Chicken BLT" is not. Crispy means fried (lots of fat). BLT means it's got bacon, which is arguably one of the worst things you can put inside your body in terms of health. Lettuce and Tomatos are great though, but don't make up for those first two.

Get a standard grilled chicken sandwitch (like the one at Jack in the Box for example), and you're going to have a healthier meal (healthier being relative of course!).


What I find most amusing about all of this is the underlying stupidity that leads it. So people are too stupid to know that fast food isn't healthy, but instead of recognizing that the masses are just plain stupid, we put pressure on the fast food places to post their nutritional information. And when the same stupid people who don't realize that fast food isn't good for them don't read that information or change their eating habits, we put more pressure on those same restaurants so they put it on the freaking wrappers.


At what point will the health craze morons realize that a goodly percentage of people will eat cheap crap no matter what they do. Do they honestly believe that "if only we could inform the masses, they'd make the right choice"? There are lots of reasons people eat fast food. An no matter how blatantly you put the nutritional information out there, that's not going to change those reasons one bit.

I'm serious here. Do they honestly think people eat fast food purely because they haven't been informed that it's bad for them? Sheesh! Just like the tobacco class action suits. Same stupid illogic.


I don't think McDonald's was MADE to do anything. I think it's their way of appeasing public sentiment by doing something completely useless.

Gbaji, even you must see that.
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In the thread on Wal-Mart, Gbaji says people should use market pressures to influence how Wal-Mart hires by refusing to shop there if they disagree with Wal-Mart's practices. When McDonald's willingly puts nutritional information on their packaging as a public relations effort to look better to consumers who otherwise may not eat there, Gbaji ******* about how McD's had the pressure put on them by stupid people.

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In the thread on Wal-Mart, Gbaji says people should use market pressures to influence how Wal-Mart hires by refusing to shop there if they disagree with Wal-Mart's practices. When McDonald's willingly puts nutritional information on their packaging as a public relations effort to look better to consumers who otherwise may not eat there, Gbaji ******* about how McD's had the pressure put on them by stupid people.



But I'm not saying McDonalds is wrong to do it. Quite the opposite. They are recognizing a trend, and reacting to negative publicity in order to protect their business. Nothing at all wrong with that.


I'm pointing out the stupidity of the negative pressure in the first place. I think that of all the things one could ***** about in this world, blaming McDonalds because people get fat eating their food is pretty darn low. Worse, blaming McDonalds because even though they make their nutrition information available, most don't read it is even more ridiculous.


Not blaming McDonalds for their reaction. I'm blaming the morons who make this an issue in the first place which results in McDonalds having to do something like that to appease them. Printing the nutrition information on every wrapper of every burger they sell is going to cost money. Money that will end up being paid by those who order that food in the first place. Given the incredibly unlikely odds that this will reduce the number of burgers ordered one bit, we can firmly place this in the "waste of money" catagory.


You can certainly make a case for using the power of public opinion to pressure a company to change their hiring practices. Doing the same thing to make them waste money on printing stuff on wrappers that no one will read or take heed of is just plain silly...
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