My husband picked out my engagement ring. It wasn't exactly what I was expecting, but he thought the ring was beautiful and said it reminded him of me. So I still wear that ring. We decided that when we have our vow renewal ceremony, we'll get new rings together.
One of my guy friends solved the situation in a really romantic way. He picked the date he was going to propose, and then bought a ring of that month's stone (avoided April since April's stone is diamond) and had the date he was going to propose engraved in that ring. So he called that ring the proposal ring and after she said yes, he brought her to the store and she picked out the engagement ring and he picked out the wedding rings. I thought it was really sweet.
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As for the "created tradition" bit, shaddup with that. Unless it's a burning cause for you throughout your life or something, it just makes you look like you're cheap.
I'm certainly not cheap when it comes to such things. I hated buying the ring for her, but I know it meant a lot to her. In the end, between the engagement ring and the wedding ring, the total was around $5,000 USD. At the time I was only 19 so that was a fairly large portion of my anual salary. Certainly more than 2 months net pay.
It's not only the engagement rings though. I've come to hate Christmas, Easter, Birthdays, School/Extra-Curricular Fund Raisers, and the Red Cross amongst other things. Ultimately they all take the true meaning behind them and contort it into a way to line the pockets of others.
Is it still traditional to go for two months salary? I mean Christ.
gross or net?
gross or net?
Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
In the end there isn't much you can do about it. Just pucker up, get a fatalistic attitude, and buy her the thing. Deep inside, you know it's wrong and you will feel dirty...but if she thinks it means you love her then you do it.
I think about her a hell of a lot more than I think about DeBeers
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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It's not only the engagement rings though. I've come to hate Christmas, Easter, Birthdays, School/Extra-Curricular Fund Raisers, and the Red Cross amongst other things. Ultimately they all take the true meaning behind them and contort it into a way to line the pockets of others.
You must be a real hoot.
Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
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As for the "created tradition" bit, shaddup with that. Unless it's a burning cause for you throughout your life or something, it just makes you look like you're cheap.
I'm certainly not cheap when it comes to such things. I hated buying the ring for her, but I know it meant a lot to her. In the end, between the engagement ring and the wedding ring, the total was around $5,000 USD. At the time I was only 19 so that was a fairly large portion of my anual salary. Certainly more than 2 months net pay.
It's not only the engagement rings though. I've come to hate Christmas, Easter, Birthdays, School/Extra-Curricular Fund Raisers, and the Red Cross amongst other things. Ultimately they all take the true meaning behind them and contort it into a way to line the pockets of others.
*sigh*
What I'm saying is, I hope you shut up about it to her, or anyone else you extend your grumbling generosity to. It's no fun to get a gift from someone when they're ******** about the establishment. At that point, it just makes you wish they hadn't bothered and it kills any romance or good vibes.
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*sigh*
What I'm saying is, I hope you shut up about it to her, or anyone else you extend your grumbling generosity to. It's no fun to get a gift from someone when they're ******** about the establishment. At that point, it just makes you wish they hadn't bothered and it kills any romance or good vibes.
What I'm saying is, I hope you shut up about it to her, or anyone else you extend your grumbling generosity to. It's no fun to get a gift from someone when they're ******** about the establishment. At that point, it just makes you wish they hadn't bothered and it kills any romance or good vibes.
What Joph said.
I try not to let my personality ruin special moments.
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You must be a real hoot.
I just prefer to have fun and celebrate special occasions for what they are instead of for what I've bought.
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Is it still traditional to go for two months salary? I mean Christ.
gross or net?
gross or net?
They say gross, but I think a nice ring doesn't have to cost the full amount. I mean, there are other expenses to consider that you might want to use that money for, like a house, wedding, and honeymoon.
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just prefer to have fun and celebrate special occasions for what they are instead of for what I've bought.
********* You are a miserable old *******.
There are numerous ways of being a generous gift giver without feeding the commercial machine. Not with engagement rings, granted. But with every other example you listed, you sure can - you can give your time.
Patrician wrote:
There are numerous ways of being a generous gift giver without feeding the commercial machine. Not with engagement rings, granted.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Cubic Zirconia!
Patrician wrote:
Cubic Zirconia!
Better start planning the divorce.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
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It's no fun to get a gift from someone when they're ******** about the establishment. At that point, it just makes you wish they hadn't bothered and it kills any romance or good vibes.
On the flip side, it's no fun either to give a gift to someone who keeps moaning that "You shouldn't have" or "I didn't ask for it" or "There's nothing I want or need." Accepting a gift graciously is as important as giving a gift graciously.
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On the flip side, it's no fun either to give a gift to someone who keeps moaning that "You shouldn't have" or "I didn't ask for it" or "There's nothing I want or need." Accepting a gift graciously is as important as giving a gift graciously.
Exactly, smile graciously, wrap it up and give it them back the following year.
I'm a cheapskate when it comes to jewelry. I don't wear it and really don't comprehend what people who do get out of it. I've tried and nothing, nada, zilch. I just felt silly.
Both times that I have been engaged, I spent less than 2k on the ring. Both times I only bought the ring because she wanted it. Both times when things went South I told the girls to keep the ring, I wasn't interested. Maybe if I'd sunk a few more grand into the rings I'd have been able to stir up enough greed to overcome the misery I was already wallowing in, but I doubt it.
Pat, I'd say that if you really want to divine her taste in jewelry without letting on to the subject, you can just rifle through what she already owns and use the working knowledge that gives you.
Personally I'd just carry her to the store and let her oo and ahhh until she found the right bit of metal and rock to spend my money on. Then again, I admittedly don't get it.
Both times that I have been engaged, I spent less than 2k on the ring. Both times I only bought the ring because she wanted it. Both times when things went South I told the girls to keep the ring, I wasn't interested. Maybe if I'd sunk a few more grand into the rings I'd have been able to stir up enough greed to overcome the misery I was already wallowing in, but I doubt it.
Pat, I'd say that if you really want to divine her taste in jewelry without letting on to the subject, you can just rifle through what she already owns and use the working knowledge that gives you.
Personally I'd just carry her to the store and let her oo and ahhh until she found the right bit of metal and rock to spend my money on. Then again, I admittedly don't get it.
You could take her to the jewlery store for her birthday. Let her pick out a ring or earring. You'll then have an idea of what she likes.
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just prefer to have fun and celebrate special occasions for what they are instead of for what I've bought.
********* You are a miserable old *******.
There are numerous ways of being a generous gift giver without feeding the commercial machine. Not with engagement rings, granted. But with every other example you listed, you sure can - you can give your time.
The holiday that I truly enjoy is Thanksgiving. It's a celebration when the biggest commercial push is to sell turkeys and pumpkin pie. Nobody is expected to decorate their house in a zillion brilliant lights. No one is expected to purchase several pounds of candy to distribute to children for "being good all year" or "because the easter bunny loves you".
It's just a bunch of family/friends getting together for the sake of giving thanks for the things we have. Everyone has a delightful meal, a few frosty beverages, and some nice pie over a general chatter about the seasons past. Someone dozes off on the couch while the sports fans of the family watch the football game. That is what holidays are suppose to be about. Sharing your time with the ones you love.
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Anyone know if Tiffany are still considered exclusive and stylish, rather than a bit bling and obvious?
I think they might be considered a bit footballers wives these days, but not sure.
I think they might be considered a bit footballers wives these days, but not sure.
Patrician wrote:
Anyone know if Tiffany are still considered exclusive and stylish, rather than a bit bling and obvious?
I think they might be considered a bit footballers wives these days, but not sure.
I think they might be considered a bit footballers wives these days, but not sure.
Tiffany has got a cool, kitchy hip thing going out here in SF.
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Showing up at Christmas without a gift for your sister's child and instead telling them to consider the time spent a gift is absurd. Gifts are expected to be reciprocated among family members for the simple fact that it's expected. People buy uselses trinkets and stupid gag gifts that eventually will just end up in the attic or the trash can.
You just have no imagination Scrooge. Why not handmake a card, in which you have inserted a hand made vouchers with the message:
"This voucher entitles <insert sister's child's name> a day trip to the zoo <or any other inexpensive but fun activity> with Uncle Grumpy Old Bas[/b]tard"
See? Easy. You get to give the warm fuzzy's of gift giving, without feeding the commercial machine. The voucher scheme can be used for practically anyone. Couple with young child? - give Babysitting Vouchers. etc.
But no. You would rather be a miserable old t[b]wat.
TStephens wrote:
Both times that I have been engaged, I spent less than 2k on the ring.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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TStephens wrote:
Both times that I have been engaged, I spent less than 2k on the ring.
Yes, well...
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See? Easy. You get to give the warm fuzzy's of gift giving, without feeding the commercial machine. The voucher scheme can be used for practically anyone. Couple with young child? - give Babysitting Vouchers. etc.
A voucher for a bubblebath including champagne and strawberries would be nice. I'd take that.
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Is it still traditional to go for two months salary? I mean Christ.
Depends on how much you make, two months salary might buy you an overly obnoxious ring, while it looks pretty in the box it's a bit of a pain in the *** to snag it on everything she touches
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Patrician wrote:
Anyone know if Tiffany are still considered exclusive and stylish, rather than a bit bling and obvious?
I think they might be considered a bit footballers wives these days, but not sure.
I think they might be considered a bit footballers wives these days, but not sure.
DSD will vouch that I am a fashion victim and quite the girly girl, and Tiffany's is the epitome of blah. For me they jumped the shark when people started to use the colors as a wedding theme.
Then again, I hate Ann Taylor, Burberry and The Gap, too.
I think the thing right now is vintage or custom designs, or colored diamonds for the true fashionistas.
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