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#1 Oct 18 2005 at 6:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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I saw this article today, and it got me to fuming again. Personally, I've found cell phones irritating for years. First, it was because those who had them were typically pompous and arrogant as[/i]sholes who carried them more for a status symbol than for their practical use. Then it became more of an irritation based on what this article talks about.

I do not talk on my phone while driving. It's fu[i]
cking dangerous. I don't multitask well to begin with, but driving a 3,000 pound vehicle and talking on the phone is a recipe for disaster. If my phone rings I let the voice mail pick it up, and once I'm parked I'll check the message.

The other thing I don't do is have long conversations in public places. At first, this didn't bother me so much as I figured "What the hell, if they want to air their private bullsh[/i]it out in public so be it." As time went on it bothered me more and more. If someone is walking in a grocery store talking about how they think so-and-so's husband is cheating on her, or how thier mother's gastic by-pass surgery went, guess what? I don't fu[u][/u]cking want to hear about it.

I was in the grocery store Friday night (because there's much fewer people there, and less people means less people to **** me off) and I ran into one of these people. I'm going along throwing the typical bachelor food in my cart and meanwhile there are stockers in the isles restocking the shelves. No biggie, I work around them and they work around me. I come down this isle and this fat ***** is parked with her cart talking on her phone. She's going on about her brother's court date and how he's getting screwed over by his ***** of an ex. Meanwhile, I'm stuck behind her and now another person is behind me. Normally I would say fu[i]
ck it and turn around as these types of people never notice you, and if they do it's not their problem.

So after about 30 seconds or so of her not noticing me, I pipe up with a polite "Excuse me m'am" (military training, be polite even if they don't deserve it). And she kind of half turns and you can tell by her glazed look that she's only about 20% aware of me, and continues on with her conversation. Finally, she turns and says "Do you mind? This is a private conversation."

I'm a red-head, so I have a temper. Typically I keep it in check pretty well, but if you give me time to get steamed, I'll snap.

So as she's turning to dismiss me and continue on with her private conversation I say "If you want a private conversation I suggest you have it in a private place, not in the middle of the fu[i][/i]cking grocery store."

She looked aghast, and finally moved her fat *** out of the way. The guy behind me busted out laughing.
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#2 Oct 18 2005 at 6:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Eventually businesses will start to invest in dampening technology - creating deliberate dead spaces where cell phones don't work. I doubt grocery stores will spend their money that way; but movie theaters, playhouses, opera houses, funeral homes and chapels would be well served to do so as soon as it becomes affordable.

People are rude. I think it would probably break down to about 85% unconciously rude and 15% tragically entitled.
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#3 Oct 18 2005 at 6:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kakar the Vile wrote:


I was in the grocery store Friday night (because there's much fewer people there, and less people means less people to **** me off)


It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that you are a looser and had nothing better to do on a friday night?

Seriously though, I don't think that the use of cell phones is the only problem in the story. There seems to be this growing egocentric attitude in our society. People are acting more like they are the only thing that matters, and everyone else in the world is just a means for them to reach their end.



And Samira, I have been saying for years that restaurants should have a cell phone section, just like a smoking section. If people want to be rude and shout during their dinner, that is fine, but take it to a place where I don't have to hear it.

How do we know that the noise isn't giving my ears cancer?

Edited, Tue Oct 18 19:36:35 2005 by PsiChi
#4 Oct 18 2005 at 6:21 PM Rating: Good
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Cell phones in movie theatres are an immediate invitation to get punched in the face. If it rings and you immediately silence it, then turn it off, I can live with that. Buf if you answer it, there will be repercussions.
#5 Oct 18 2005 at 6:23 PM Rating: Good


The only time I have found myself irritated at cell phone use is when students in the middle of lecture answer their phones and walk out of lecture to talk. If I was the professor, I would lock the door and not let them back in.

#6 Oct 18 2005 at 6:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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tonmaitre wrote:
Cell phones in movie theatres are an immediate invitation to get punched in the face. If it rings and you immediately silence it, then turn it off, I can live with that. Buf if you answer it, there will be repercussions.


Just don't say anything to the shwoogys that answer their phones, or else you will most likely have her man stand up and say "Ohh no, you put her in Pat Battle mode". Then you will have to go talk to the manager have have him put you in a theater with all the other scared white people that mouthed off to the wrong person.





I sure hope that Lube is still around, so at least someoen will get this...
#7 Oct 18 2005 at 6:34 PM Rating: Excellent
Manners are nothing more or less than good home training. We reap what we sow.
#8 Oct 18 2005 at 6:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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TStephens wrote:
Manners are nothing more or less than good home training. We reap what we sow.


Yes, but when a majority of the society has been raised by a television, do you expect anything other than the "instant gratification" obsession that most people have?
#9 Oct 18 2005 at 6:45 PM Rating: Excellent
That's my point, actually. We allowed a generation to be raised by a generation that was given a television for a babysitter without doing anything to reverse or even halt the trend towards SELF.

I have no sympathy for us and our predicament. We deserve these people, we ARE these people.
#10 Oct 18 2005 at 6:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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TStephens wrote:
That's my point, actually. We allowed a generation to be raised by a generation that was given a television for a babysitter without doing anything to reverse or even halt the trend towards SELF.

I have no sympathy for us and our predicament. We deserve these people, we ARE these people.


Isn't that stretching a little? If you are going to believe that, why not say:

"I have no sympathy for people hurt today by antisemitics. They didn't do anything to stop the ****'s/"

People raising children today can only be responsible for how their kids turn out. Blaming those parents for not changing how they we raised is a bit gjabi of you.
#11 Oct 18 2005 at 6:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Speak for yourself, varlet. I don't watch television. Nor do I own a cell phone. Neither do I plunge heedlessly down a crowded sidewalk elbowing the elderly, the lame and the blind out of my way.

I do, however, eat meat, so I'm still going to hell. Yay!
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#12 Oct 18 2005 at 6:52 PM Rating: Excellent
I suppose I should clarify the "we" usage. We, as in this country. We, the people.
#13 Oct 18 2005 at 6:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
Eventually businesses will start to invest in dampening technology - creating deliberate dead spaces where cell phones don't work.


Ooooh! Cone of silence. I'm sooooo there!!! ;)


On a real technical note:

Actually, it's a lot harder and more expensive to do this then you might think. It's relatively easy to make it so that signals don't penetrate *well* into an area, but hard as hell to block them completely. What you often end up with is phones getting enough signal to ring, but then disconnecting, which will just result in more rings, and a lot of people shouting into their phones with a bad connection.

I'm no rf expert, but there's basically two approaches to do this. You either physically block the signals, or you use electronics to interferre with the signals.

The first method can be *really* expensive. You need a material of the correct wavelength to block the signals. And lots of buildings do that reasonably well already, but not perfectly since they aren't specifically sized for the job (just happen to do it most of the time). You've seen the mesh that blocks microwaves in your oven, right? Similar stuff put in the insulation in a wall will block cell phone signals completely. But that's a lot of money and requires rebuilding the walls of your building. You're essentially building a faraday cage around your "zone of silence". ;)

Interferrence is easier and cheaper, but can be less effective. You've got to saturate an area with rf signals which will essentially scramble any incoming signal so that it doesn't get through. Well, it does, but the reciever doesn't know what to make of it, so it doesn't recognize it as an incomming phone call. The problem is that you're saturating an area with rf. Know all those people who claim cell phones cause cancer? You're probably not going to get their business. There are also some very real risks. Know what rf saturation can do to a pacemaker? Not really a great idea...


The change has to be cultural IMO. It's not about the cell phones. It's about rude people. I agree with the statement above that there's a trend in society for people to think only of themselves. Certainly, the woman blocking the isle fits that model perfectly. I'm not sure what the solution is, but it's definately a problem...
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#14 Oct 18 2005 at 7:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not sure what the solution is, but it's definately a problem...


The solution is a 2x4 with a rusty nail protruding from it and a swinging motion towards the offenders head.
#15 Oct 18 2005 at 7:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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PsiChi wrote:
It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that you are a looser and had nothing better to do on a friday night?




Shhhhh... you'll blow my cover as the resident cool kid on the block.
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#16 Oct 18 2005 at 7:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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I dont have a landline phone anymore. All of my home phone calls are forwarded to my cell. However I never use it while driving, nor in an inappropriate manner. A part of me abhors the rudeness I see on a day to day basis of people like the one Kakar witnessed. If I were him I would have done the exact same thing. It's not the cell phones that are the problem, its the attitude so many today have adopted, forgetting courtesies to others outside of their home.

The other reason is because I cant stand talking on phones. Id rather let a call go to voicemail and I can call back at my convenience. Most times when people call me they want to chat.I feel if you want to have a heart to heart convo, make a date with me over a margarita
#17 Oct 18 2005 at 7:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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The other reason is because I cant stand talking on phones. Id rather let a call go to voicemail and I can call back at my convenience. Most times when people call me they want to chat.I feel if you want to have a heart to heart convo, make a date with me over a margarita


You said it. I had a friend call me at work today. When I answered, he stated he'd just called my cell not two minutes before and didn't get an answer. I told him that was because the ringer was turned off and he tried to take affront at the fact that I didn't leave the ringer on my personal phone turned on while at work.

I could, if I wanted. There's a policy, but I've never seen it enforced. But that's not the point. The point is that *I* object to having personal calls come in on my cell while I'm at work. He couldn't understand.

I finally broke down and just turned arrogant on him. I told him my cell is for my convenience, not his. I have it so that I can call people, not for people to call me.

Me and my charming self, neh?
#18 Oct 18 2005 at 7:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Don't get me started on "cell phone" scumbags.
#19 Oct 18 2005 at 8:15 PM Rating: Default
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Usually people talking on cell phones about useless ******** in public get an earful from me.

Case in point.

Three days ago I was riding the bus and a girl (around 18 or so) is speaking somewhat loudly in a very obnoxious New England accent. I waited until I was about 5 stops from mine and proceeded to go over from my seat and sit down next to her. This seemed to surprise her since the bus was only half full. After a quick glance and a pause in her conversation, she went back at it. At this point I tapped her on the shoulder and asked "Excuse me, can I have a moment of your time?" She sighed, rolled her eyes and told her friend she'd call him/her back in a minute. This is what I said to her: "I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for dribbling your stupidity all over me and the others on this bus. I hope your cunt rots and your labia falls off from leprosy. I hope you have a nice day, and **** off." This was followed by the middle finger as I got up and exited.

I walked the last two blocks to work whistling Zip-Ah-Dee-Doo-Dah and had a fantastic morning.

Edited, Tue Oct 18 21:30:28 2005 by SilentPaskil
#20 Oct 18 2005 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Most walmarts that I've been in are large enough to dampen cell phone reception.

I have a confession. I own a RAZRV3. I'm sorry. I wanted it because it was light, thin, bluetooth capable, and has a great battery life. Unfortunatly it, like my iPod, is a status symbol. Apparently anyway. I try not to talk in crowded places, though I will call my mom for a recipe in the grocery store or my wife for instructions. I certainly do not hold conversations in social situations. (Unless said conversation leads to other social situations.) If I have to take a call I politely excuse myself. The phone is usually on vibrate for these reasons and I know the "one key to silent" button.

I try to only use the headset in the car, on the interstate, or someplace dangerous. I do call the wife quite often on the way home from work. It is about as dangerous as talking in the parking lot.

Best use of phone to date: taking a picture of my wife in her wedding dress right after the wedding and we had the church to ourselves. Everyone else was waiting outside for the sword arch.

Second best: getting a picture of a lizzard precariously holding on to my windshield at before it got swept off at 45mph. That was marginally dangerous.

Never in a theatre though, then you go to hell AND make baby Flying Spaghetti Jesus cry.
#21 Oct 18 2005 at 8:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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SilentPaskil wrote:

Three days ago I was riding the bus and a girl (around 18 or so) is speaking somewhat loudly in a very obnoxious New England accent. I waited until I was about 5 stops from mine and proceeded to go over from my seat and sit down next to her. This seemed to surprise her since the bus was only half full. After a quick glance and a pause in her conversation, she went back at it. At this point I tapped her on the shoulder and asked "Excuse me, can I have a moment of your time?" She sighed, rolled her eyes and told her friend she'd call him/her back in a minute. This is what I said to her: "I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for dribbling your stupidity all over me and the others on this bus. I hope your cunt rots and your labia falls off from leprosy. I hope you have a nice day, and **** off." This was followed by the middle finger as I got up and exited.


If you were as cool as you thought you were, you would have cone this right off the bat, instead of waiting for you to be close enough to run away if a problem arose.
#22 Oct 18 2005 at 10:32 PM Rating: Decent
You know whats the best way to get rid of them? Comment to them about their conversations.

Example:

Dumbass: My boyfriend is such an ***[/b]hole, he keeps missing our dates and keeps on forgetting to return my calls

Me: He's cheating on you, dipsh[b]
it.

Dumbass: Excuse me, I didn't ask fo your commentary.

Me: I didn't ask to hear your conversation.

Dumbass: Fu[b][/b]ck you, I'll do what I want.

Me: Your boyfriend beat you to that.

Edited, Tue Oct 18 23:40:43 2005 by Nabraben
#23 Oct 18 2005 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
I remember a time when all kids wanted to do was get a break from work or run across the street in between class to have a smoke. Now, those kids just want to use that time for cell phone calls.

Some of the departments where I work practice this religiously. I myself do not own a cell phone because:
A) I am a loser with no real friends
B) I do not know enough people to warrent cell phone usage
C) I do not want a big tumer to grow out of my ear

On an episode of Jay Lenno a few months back they did a segment on new cell phones which came on the market. There was one specifically designed for ages 4 and up. yes, the "egocentric attiude" is right, and now you can look forward to it from 4 year olds
#24 Oct 18 2005 at 10:57 PM Rating: Good
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I vote we bring back the educational social instruction films they used to show to school kids in the 50's and 60's.

Further, I vote they should be shown not only in the class rooms, but in the office conference rooms across the nation. I could use a refresher course too.
#26 Oct 19 2005 at 12:02 AM Rating: Good
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Kakar wrote:
So as she's turning to dismiss me and continue on with her private conversation I say "If you want a private conversation I suggest you have it in a private place, not in the middle of the ******* grocery store."

Hoo hoo hoo!

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