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I don't see why we can't just leave it at "A moment of silence."

No matter what religion you are, that is one thing that all the religions (That I know of.) could share and respect. I don't think anyone could seriously get angry over everyone having a moment of silence to reflect on things. That's the point of most religions anyways, is it not? Self-Reflection and the bettering of oneself.

Eh, what the hell do I know, I'm not even religious.

technically not Jacob. All those symbolisms for the holidays were taken from pagan holidays and adjusted for the christian holidays. Technically, every christian holiday is not on the date they should be. Instead they were interlapped with already pagan holidays to make the transition easier for those who refused to let go of the old ways.

Christmas? Represents Winter Solstice. The image of a jolly fat elf is pagan, though the name is from a christaian saint. The easter bunny? Represents fertility on the holiday of easter, a pagan goddess who represented fertility and birth. Has nothing to do with the christian symbolism of the holiday at all. But thats for another thread, and something we have discussed many times before.

Allenjj, why not have the option to pray instead of making it mandatory for all to listen to something they dont believe? WHats wrong with a time of silence, where those who wish to pray can do so and those who dont can reflect in their own way? That way no one is imposing ANYTHING on anyone.

One battle at a time, compadre.

Advertising will get its own day in court.

Just because something exists doesn't make it a good thing.

It shouldn't and neither should this. It's not an example of a violation of church/state laws, it's an attempt to take away right protected under the constitution. People have every right to pray, even at school functions. Just as advertiser's have the right to try and ruin every episode of Smallville I watch with their evil, evil commercials.

Thank His Noodly Appendige for DVR.

More illogical forwarded e-mail garbage.

Move on.

How is having a moment of silence for all to do as they wished taking away your right to pray? Do you have to actually listen to someone read it aloud for it to count? No, you're just harumphing on the fact that others may feel uncomfortable listening to YOUR and YOURS alone faiths prayers while others are left in the dark. And yes, it is an example of violition of the seperation of church and state laws if it infringes on the rights of others. Unless you add every single faith out there to the prayer list it is a favoritism of one faith only, seperating even more the mixing pot of people we have that live in this country

I'd rather have no mercy for the majority

No, my claim is that because the majority of people wish for it, they have the right to do it. Just as you have the right to publicly pray to a flying spaghetti monster if you want. It's freedom. Freedom to express your beliefs regardless of whether or not others like it.



For the same reason that I have to listen to an atheist professor drone on and on about his beliefs if I want to pass my college courses; it's their right.



An excellent point, but not a valid one for this discussion. The point of contention I'm making is that individual people have the right to express their beliefs, no mateer who's listening or who might be offended.

Thats not what your point sounds like. Your point has been that you feel it should be completely fine to have judeo christian prayer a part of a public, governement based event. At least that is how I am perceiving it. Because if your point was what you just said, then you would have no problems with accepting a moment of silence where everyone in the stands could do as they pleased publically, just without someone up on a podium reciting a prayer that many of us may not follow. Express your beliefs all you want, but I am expressing my own by balking at being told I HAVE to listen to your prayer at a public non religious event.





Show me how many times a public school plays against a private school. Im not a soccer mom so maybe Im in the wrong with this, but in my years of highschool not once did our public school play against a private christian school so the point is moot. If its a private non religious school playing against a private religious school, then I have no qualms. My tax dollars are not a part of the issue when trying to keep church and state seperated.



Its the fact that I, being not of the same religion, would have to listen to one faiths prayers without the representation of all others. To me, it is just one more way to show that this country, even in government funded events, is straying from the seperation of church and state, and pointing a favoritism to only one religion, and not encompassing all, which is what our caonstitution was founded on. So yes, if you are discluding all other faiths and the beliefs of the entire country, and focusing only on one faith in a government funded event, then its a suffering for all who do not see the way you do and it is a slight against us.



because since it is a seperation of church and state in a government funded event it should not be there. Why shouldnt you keep your prayers where they belong? Why is it so hard for you to understand another persons opinion in the matter? You're not asking for equal rights for all faiths, only your own. If you feel that strongly about prayer in events, then put your own kid in a private school and pay for the privelage of recited prayer. My tax dollars do not pay to hear about someone elses religion in a non religion atmosphere

DSD, I thought you had graduated already?

andI bet it makes you oh so happy to listen to it too. Now realize thats what many of us feel and magnify it, knowing that our faith is being ignored for only one and obviously most favored religion of our country. Great to know that our country is based on allowing us to worship as we choose, so long as we are forced to listen to the "favorite" religions only prayers in a nonreligious, public, tax dollared paid event.

My tax dollars are going to a governement that should not be including only one religion into their thought base. I am not paying to a country that visibly supports one religion. I am paying to a country that is supposed to allow equal rights for all faiths. Until or unless you relent and allow everyone else who wishes to pray from their own faiths into the mix as well, you're only continuing to split the already engulfing bipolar of the people in this country.

As I said, take your money and put your kid into a private school, if it means so much to you to hear prayer at events. You have the choice in that matter. I dont, except to put my son in a public school and hope that they keep it seperated from a religion I may not believe in

I guess we just feel differently about it. The way I see it is, I would have no problem listening to a muslim, or jewish, or whatever prayer before a game. Even if that was the only prayer spoken. Given that, I have no problem with hearing a christian prayer either.

To me it's just people exercising their rights.